Re: [qubes-users] Qubes Windows 7 / 10

2016-09-21 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-09-20 08:30, Pawel Debski wrote:
> W dniu niedziela, 18 września 2016 17:21:47 UTC+2 użytkownik ludwig jaffe 
> napisał:
>> On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 3:55:58 AM UTC-4, Pawel Debski wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>> 
>>> I have Qubes 3.2 up, updated &
>>> running like a charm. Now the Microsoft challenge. The doc @
>>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/windows-appvms/ instructs to use
>>> Windows 7. Do you suggest to stick with version 7 or go ahead to
>>> 10 / 8?
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>> Z powazaniem / Best Regards
>>>
>>> Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Meilleures salutations
>>>
>>> Pawel Debski
>>
>> Hi I run windows10 w/o windows tools and I replace cut and paste with an 
>> editor to generate a file and then I ssh to the other machines.
>> Also files I can tar.gz and ssh.
>>
>> Here it is good to install cygwin on the windows10, and 
>> also you want to install classic shell and remove cortana, the spy.
>> I did this and it works
> 
> Now I have Windows 7 up and running, but I have some minor stability problems 
> - I used testing version of Qubes Windows Tools as there was no stable 
> version avaiable.
> 
> Did I do something wrong or indeed there is no stable version of Qubes 
> Windows Tools?
> 

Correct. There is currently no stable version of Qubes Windows Tools.

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Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes Windows 7 / 10

2016-09-20 Thread pixel fairy
On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 10:06:06 AM UTC-7, Pawel Debski wrote:
> On 2016-09-20 18:27, entr0py wrote:
> > Pawel Debski:
> >> W dniu niedziela, 18 września 2016 17:21:47 UTC+2 użytkownik ludwig jaffe 
> >> napisał:
> >>> On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 3:55:58 AM UTC-4, Pawel Debski wrote:
>  Folks,
>   
>  I have Qubes 3.2 up, updated &
>   running like a charm. Now the Microsoft challenge. The doc @
>   https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/windows-appvms/ instructs to use
>   Windows 7. Do you suggest to stick with version 7 or go ahead to
>   10 / 8?

could you use published apps from a windows server instead? 
https://github.com/FreeRDP/FreeRDP/wiki/RemoteApp

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes Windows 7 / 10

2016-09-20 Thread Pawel Debski


On 2016-09-20 18:27, entr0py wrote:

Pawel Debski:

W dniu niedziela, 18 września 2016 17:21:47 UTC+2 użytkownik ludwig jaffe 
napisał:

On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 3:55:58 AM UTC-4, Pawel Debski wrote:

Folks,
 
I have Qubes 3.2 up, updated &

 running like a charm. Now the Microsoft challenge. The doc @
 https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/windows-appvms/ instructs to use
 Windows 7. Do you suggest to stick with version 7 or go ahead to
 10 / 8?

   
 
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 Z powazaniem / Best Regards

 Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Meilleures salutations

 Pawel Debski

Hi I run windows10 w/o windows tools and I replace cut and paste with an editor 
to generate a file and then I ssh to the other machines.
Also files I can tar.gz and ssh.

Here it is good to install cygwin on the windows10, and
also you want to install classic shell and remove cortana, the spy.
I did this and it works

Now I have Windows 7 up and running, but I have some minor stability problems - 
I used testing version of Qubes Windows Tools as there was no stable version 
avaiable.

Did I do something wrong or indeed there is no stable version of Qubes Windows 
Tools?


There is no version of qubes-windows-tools in the stable repo. The latest 
testing version is 3.2.1-3 and the prior testing release series was 3.0.4-1.

After much testing with Windows 7 on Qubes R3.1, I was unable to get QWT 3.2 
working in a stable fashion. I don't want to lead you astray - this is very 
much YMMV. Everyone seems to have their own personalized experience with 
Windows on Qubes. I think part of the reason for this is that stability is also 
a function of which Windows updates are installed.

I downgraded to QWT 3.0 without PV disk drivers and now have a stable Win 7 
running MS Office with full inter-VM operability.

(Some of the BSODs received while running QWT 3.2:
RDR_FILE_SYSTEM
DRIVER_POWER_FAILURE
QUOTA_UNDERFLOW
BAD_POOL_HEADER
MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
A device driver has pool.)




I fully understand what you say and what I achieved is satisfying from 
my point of view. However if I'm going to deploy a number of personal 
productivity workstation in a banking environment the ordinary user will 
kill my project when he looses his work because of minor unstability.


Z powazaniem / Best Regards
Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Meilleures salutations
Pawel Debski


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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes Windows 7 / 10

2016-09-20 Thread entr0py
Pawel Debski:
> W dniu niedziela, 18 września 2016 17:21:47 UTC+2 użytkownik ludwig jaffe 
> napisał:
>> On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 3:55:58 AM UTC-4, Pawel Debski wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>> 
>>> I have Qubes 3.2 up, updated &
>>> running like a charm. Now the Microsoft challenge. The doc @
>>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/windows-appvms/ instructs to use
>>> Windows 7. Do you suggest to stick with version 7 or go ahead to
>>> 10 / 8?
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>> Z powazaniem / Best Regards
>>>
>>> Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Meilleures salutations
>>>
>>> Pawel Debski
>>
>> Hi I run windows10 w/o windows tools and I replace cut and paste with an 
>> editor to generate a file and then I ssh to the other machines.
>> Also files I can tar.gz and ssh.
>>
>> Here it is good to install cygwin on the windows10, and 
>> also you want to install classic shell and remove cortana, the spy.
>> I did this and it works
> 
> Now I have Windows 7 up and running, but I have some minor stability problems 
> - I used testing version of Qubes Windows Tools as there was no stable 
> version avaiable.
> 
> Did I do something wrong or indeed there is no stable version of Qubes 
> Windows Tools?
> 

There is no version of qubes-windows-tools in the stable repo. The latest 
testing version is 3.2.1-3 and the prior testing release series was 3.0.4-1.

After much testing with Windows 7 on Qubes R3.1, I was unable to get QWT 3.2 
working in a stable fashion. I don't want to lead you astray - this is very 
much YMMV. Everyone seems to have their own personalized experience with 
Windows on Qubes. I think part of the reason for this is that stability is also 
a function of which Windows updates are installed.

I downgraded to QWT 3.0 without PV disk drivers and now have a stable Win 7 
running MS Office with full inter-VM operability.

(Some of the BSODs received while running QWT 3.2:
RDR_FILE_SYSTEM
DRIVER_POWER_FAILURE
QUOTA_UNDERFLOW
BAD_POOL_HEADER
MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
A device driver has pool.)

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