Re: [qubes-users] Re: Attaching a single USB device to a qube (USB passthrough)

2017-03-08 Thread Franz
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Franz <169...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Andrew David Wong 
> wrote:
>
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>> On 2017-03-05 17:56, Franz wrote:
>> > On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 10:39 PM, Andrew David Wong
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2017-03-05 14:18, Franz wrote:
>> >>> On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 5:11 PM,  wrote:
>>  [...] did it work with it plugged in at boot?
>> 
>> >>> did not try that wondering if it may be a security risk
>> >>
>> >> Yes, leaving USB devices plugged in during boot can be a risk,
>> >> since Qubes can't isolate USB controllers during early stages of
>> >> the boot process. IIRC, Joanna's recommendation is to unplug all
>> >> USB devices before (re)booting.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > So, leaving that aside, the only remaining option would be to look
>> > into some log or similar information source to try to find out why
>> > the scanner appears in sys-usb, but not in dom0 qvm-usb. Any idea
>> > where to look?
>> >
>>
>> Sorry, no idea.
>>
>> P.S. - Franz, would you mind excluding extraneous quoted material from
>> your replies? In particular, please exclude PGP signatures and generic
>> Google Groups information included as a signature.
>>
>> https://www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists/#discussion-list-guidelines
>>
>>
> To go along I tried to use the USB controller that was assigned to
> assignedVM, that worked in the past. But now I am unable to start the
> assignedVM. The log tells:
> Icon size: 128x128
> invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600015 (32767/32767)
> invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600015 (32767/32767)
> invalid PMaxSize for 0x360002b (533/32767)
> invalid PMaxSize for 0x360002b (533/32767)
> invalid PMaxSize for 0x360002b (533/32767)
> invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600035 (32767/32767)
> invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600035 (32767/32767)
> invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600035 (32767/32767)
> invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600035 (32767/32767)
> invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600035 (32767/32767)
> invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600035 (32767/32767)
> invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600035 (32767/32767)
> invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600040 (32767/32767)
> invalid PMaxSize for 0x360002b (533/32767)
> invalid PMaxSize for 0x360002b (533/32767)
> libvchan_is_eof
> Icon size: 128x128
> domain dead
> Failed to connect to gui-agent
>
>
I do not know if ti was the last dom0 update or another reboot, but the
assignment now works, while the  "attaching a single USB device" yet not.
Best
Fran

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Attaching a single USB device to a qube (USB passthrough)

2017-03-06 Thread Franz
On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Andrew David Wong  wrote:

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> On 2017-03-05 17:56, Franz wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 10:39 PM, Andrew David Wong
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> On 2017-03-05 14:18, Franz wrote:
> >>> On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 5:11 PM,  wrote:
>  [...] did it work with it plugged in at boot?
> 
> >>> did not try that wondering if it may be a security risk
> >>
> >> Yes, leaving USB devices plugged in during boot can be a risk,
> >> since Qubes can't isolate USB controllers during early stages of
> >> the boot process. IIRC, Joanna's recommendation is to unplug all
> >> USB devices before (re)booting.
> >>
> >>
> > So, leaving that aside, the only remaining option would be to look
> > into some log or similar information source to try to find out why
> > the scanner appears in sys-usb, but not in dom0 qvm-usb. Any idea
> > where to look?
> >
>
> Sorry, no idea.
>
> P.S. - Franz, would you mind excluding extraneous quoted material from
> your replies? In particular, please exclude PGP signatures and generic
> Google Groups information included as a signature.
>
> https://www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists/#discussion-list-guidelines
>
>
To go along I tried to use the USB controller that was assigned to
assignedVM, that worked in the past. But now I am unable to start the
assignedVM. The log tells:
Icon size: 128x128
invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600015 (32767/32767)
invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600015 (32767/32767)
invalid PMaxSize for 0x360002b (533/32767)
invalid PMaxSize for 0x360002b (533/32767)
invalid PMaxSize for 0x360002b (533/32767)
invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600035 (32767/32767)
invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600035 (32767/32767)
invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600035 (32767/32767)
invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600035 (32767/32767)
invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600035 (32767/32767)
invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600035 (32767/32767)
invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600035 (32767/32767)
invalid PMaxSize for 0x3600040 (32767/32767)
invalid PMaxSize for 0x360002b (533/32767)
invalid PMaxSize for 0x360002b (533/32767)
libvchan_is_eof
Icon size: 128x128
domain dead
Failed to connect to gui-agent

Best
Fran

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Attaching a single USB device to a qube (USB passthrough)

2017-03-05 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2017-03-05 17:56, Franz wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 10:39 PM, Andrew David Wong
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 2017-03-05 14:18, Franz wrote:
>>> On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 5:11 PM,  wrote:
 [...] did it work with it plugged in at boot?
 
>>> did not try that wondering if it may be a security risk
>> 
>> Yes, leaving USB devices plugged in during boot can be a risk,
>> since Qubes can't isolate USB controllers during early stages of
>> the boot process. IIRC, Joanna's recommendation is to unplug all
>> USB devices before (re)booting.
>> 
>> 
> So, leaving that aside, the only remaining option would be to look
> into some log or similar information source to try to find out why
> the scanner appears in sys-usb, but not in dom0 qvm-usb. Any idea
> where to look?
> 

Sorry, no idea.

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Google Groups information included as a signature.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Attaching a single USB device to a qube (USB passthrough)

2017-03-05 Thread Franz
On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 10:39 PM, Andrew David Wong  wrote:

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> On 2017-03-05 14:18, Franz wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 5:11 PM,  wrote:
> >> [...] did it work with it plugged in at boot?
> >>
> > did not try that wondering if it may be a security risk
>
> Yes, leaving USB devices plugged in during boot can be a risk, since
> Qubes can't isolate USB controllers during early stages of the boot
> process. IIRC, Joanna's recommendation is to unplug all USB devices
> before (re)booting.
>
>
So, leaving that aside, the only remaining option would be to look into
some log or similar information source to try to find out why the scanner
appears in sys-usb, but not in dom0 qvm-usb. Any idea where to look?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Attaching a single USB device to a qube (USB passthrough)

2017-03-05 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2017-03-05 14:18, Franz wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 5:11 PM,  wrote:
>> [...] did it work with it plugged in at boot?
>> 
> did not try that wondering if it may be a security risk

Yes, leaving USB devices plugged in during boot can be a risk, since
Qubes can't isolate USB controllers during early stages of the boot
process. IIRC, Joanna's recommendation is to unplug all USB devices
before (re)booting.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Attaching a single USB device to a qube (USB passthrough)

2017-03-05 Thread Franz
On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 5:11 PM,  wrote:

> On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 8:06:55 PM UTC-5, Francesco wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 5:14 PM,   wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 10:18:18 AM UTC-5, Francesco wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> >
> > > for the first time I am trying this new feature of Qubes 3.2 with the
> idea of using attaching a scanner to a scannerVM.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Fist installed qubes-usb-proxy and simple-scan in the template from
> which both sys-usb and scannerVM depend.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Then connected the usb cable and the scanner appeared in sys-usb
> terminal:
> >
> > > user@sys-usb:~$ lsusb
> >
> > > Bus 003 Device 005: ID 04a9:190f Canon, Inc.
> >
> > > but
> >
> > > it does not show in dom0 with
> >
> > > qvm-usb
> >
> > > as taught at the end of this document:
> >
> > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usb/
> >
> > > In fact only the webcam appears there.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > So which is the difference between webcam and scanner? Perhaps that
> the webcam was already installed at boot, while the scanner was connected
> after? But from a security point of view is it advisable to boot with the
> scanner already connected?
> >
> > > Best
> >
> > > Fran
> >
> >
> >
> > did you install proxy in the usb vm too?>
> >
> >
> > yes
> >  not sure havent; tried with a scanner only printer.  I still print and
> scan over network with a raspberry pi that i set up on earlier version of
> Qubes.
> >
> >
> > That may be a cleaner way to do that
> >
> >   I;ve gotten android phone to work as single usb device though too.
> maybe scanner use some diff protocol or port?
> >
> >
> >
> > May be, but it seems strange that qvm-usb does not see it
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Fran
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> did it work with it plugged in at boot?
>
>
did not try that wondering if it may be a security risk
best
Fran

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Attaching a single USB device to a qube (USB passthrough)

2017-03-05 Thread raahelps
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 8:06:55 PM UTC-5, Francesco wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 5:14 PM,   wrote:
> 
> 
> On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 10:18:18 AM UTC-5, Francesco wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> 
> > for the first time I am trying this new feature of Qubes 3.2 with the idea 
> > of using attaching a scanner to a scannerVM.
> 
> >
> 
> > Fist installed qubes-usb-proxy and simple-scan in the template from which 
> > both sys-usb and scannerVM depend.
> 
> >
> 
> > Then connected the usb cable and the scanner appeared in sys-usb terminal:
> 
> > user@sys-usb:~$ lsusb
> 
> > Bus 003 Device 005: ID 04a9:190f Canon, Inc.
> 
> > but
> 
> > it does not show in dom0 with
> 
> > qvm-usb
> 
> > as taught at the end of this document:
> 
> > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usb/
> 
> > In fact only the webcam appears there.
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> > So which is the difference between webcam and scanner? Perhaps that the 
> > webcam was already installed at boot, while the scanner was connected 
> > after? But from a security point of view is it advisable to boot with the 
> > scanner already connected?
> 
> > Best
> 
> > Fran
> 
> 
> 
> did you install proxy in the usb vm too?> 
> 
> 
> yes 
>  not sure havent; tried with a scanner only printer.  I still print and scan 
> over network with a raspberry pi that i set up on earlier version of Qubes.
> 
> 
> That may be a cleaner way to do that 
> 
>   I;ve gotten android phone to work as single usb device though too.  maybe 
> scanner use some diff protocol or port?
> 
> 
> 
> May be, but it seems strange that qvm-usb does not see it
> 
> Best
> 
> Fran 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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did it work with it plugged in at boot?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Attaching a single USB device to a qube (USB passthrough)

2017-03-04 Thread Franz
On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 5:14 PM,  wrote:

> On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 10:18:18 AM UTC-5, Francesco wrote:
> > Hello,
> > for the first time I am trying this new feature of Qubes 3.2 with the
> idea of using attaching a scanner to a scannerVM.
> >
> > Fist installed qubes-usb-proxy and simple-scan in the template from
> which both sys-usb and scannerVM depend.
> >
> > Then connected the usb cable and the scanner appeared in sys-usb
> terminal:
> > user@sys-usb:~$ lsusb
> > Bus 003 Device 005: ID 04a9:190f Canon, Inc.
> > but
> > it does not show in dom0 with
> > qvm-usb
> > as taught at the end of this document:
> > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usb/
> > In fact only the webcam appears there.
> >
> >
> > So which is the difference between webcam and scanner? Perhaps that the
> webcam was already installed at boot, while the scanner was connected
> after? But from a security point of view is it advisable to boot with the
> scanner already connected?
> > Best
> > Fran
>
> did you install proxy in the usb vm too?>


yes

> not sure havent; tried with a scanner only printer.  I still print and
> scan over network with a raspberry pi that i set up on earlier version of
> Qubes.


That may be a cleaner way to do that

>   I;ve gotten android phone to work as single usb device though too.
> maybe scanner use some diff protocol or port?
>

May be, but it seems strange that qvm-usb does not see it
Best
Fran

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