Re: [ntp:questions] Trimble Resolution T

2011-10-17 Thread Dennis Ferguson
On 17 Oct, 2011, at 15:14 , Hal Murray wrote: > In article , > unruh writes: > >> In fact it is really hard for a computer to keep to 1us accuracy because >> of the delays in interrupt processing. > > It's not the delay that is the problem. It's simple to correct for a > fixed delay. (at leas

Re: [ntp:questions] Trimble Resolution T

2011-10-17 Thread unruh
On 2011-10-17, Hal Murray wrote: > In article , > unruh writes: > >>In fact it is really hard for a computer to keep to 1us accuracy because >>of the delays in interrupt processing. > > It's not the delay that is the problem. It's simple to correct for a > fixed delay. (at least in theory) Th

Re: [ntp:questions] Trimble Resolution T

2011-10-17 Thread Hal Murray
In article , unruh writes: >In fact it is really hard for a computer to keep to 1us accuracy because >of the delays in interrupt processing. It's not the delay that is the problem. It's simple to correct for a fixed delay. (at least in theory) The problem is variations in the delay. Jitter

Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Two PPS signals, one declared as falseticker

2011-10-17 Thread Dave Hart
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 20:23, David Woolley wrote: > Nickolay Orekhov wrote: > >> # midist  : increased minimal distance for PPS reference clocks ( default >> 0.001s ) >> tos mindist 0.032 > > > I can't answer your specific question, but using PPS generally indicates an > attempt to get highly ac

Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Two PPS signals, one declared as falseticker

2011-10-17 Thread David Woolley
Nickolay Orekhov wrote: # midist : increased minimal distance for PPS reference clocks ( default 0.001s ) tos mindist 0.032 I can't answer your specific question, but using PPS generally indicates an attempt to get highly accurate time, whereas the above disables the kernel time discipline

Re: [ntp:questions] Trimble Resolution T

2011-10-17 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 17 October 2011 20:04, unruh wrote: > On 2011-10-17, Miguel Gon?alves wrote: >> The reason is that I already have one of each and want a different >> third clock. Nothing against Garmin or Sure. In fact, I highly > > How different? Do you want it depending on the same thing-- gps? Or do > you

Re: [ntp:questions] Trimble Resolution T

2011-10-17 Thread unruh
On 2011-10-17, Miguel Gon?alves wrote: > On 17 October 2011 17:37, unruh wrote: >> On 2011-10-17, Miguel Gon?alves wrote: >>> Excluding the Garmins and Sure Evaluation Boards which both have PPS >>> outputs what are the best (meaning well supported) refclocks today to >>> set up a new server? >>

Re: [ntp:questions] Trimble Resolution T

2011-10-17 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:45 AM, unruh wrote: > On 2011-10-17, Chris Albertson wrote: > > 2011/10/17 Miguel Gon?alves > > > >> what are the best (meaning well supported) refclocks today to > >> set up a new server? > > > > > > Likely the GPS with the best PPS is the new Oncore. But for NTP

Re: [ntp:questions] Trimble Resolution T

2011-10-17 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 17 October 2011 17:37, unruh wrote: > On 2011-10-17, Miguel Gon?alves wrote: >> Excluding the Garmins and Sure Evaluation Boards which both have PPS >> outputs what are the best (meaning well supported) refclocks today to >> set up a new server? > > Perhaps you should tell us what your require

Re: [ntp:questions] suit against timezone database

2011-10-17 Thread unruh
On 2011-10-17, Danny Mayer wrote: > On 10/6/2011 3:31 PM, Yan Seiner wrote: >> Just came across this on /. >> >> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/10/06/1743226/civil-suit-filed-involving-the-time-zone-database >> >> ?? >> > > ICANN has taken over responsibility for the timezone database and

Re: [ntp:questions] Trimble Resolution T

2011-10-17 Thread unruh
On 2011-10-17, Chris Albertson wrote: > 2011/10/17 Miguel Gon?alves > >> what are the best (meaning well supported) refclocks today to >> set up a new server? > > > Likely the GPS with the best PPS is the new Oncore. But for NTP you don't > need 5 nanosecond accuracy. From NTP's point of vie

Re: [ntp:questions] Trimble Resolution T

2011-10-17 Thread Chris Albertson
2011/10/17 Miguel Gonçalves > what are the best (meaning well supported) refclocks today to > set up a new server? Likely the GPS with the best PPS is the new Oncore. But for NTP you don't need 5 nanosecond accuracy. From NTP's point of view 5 nS is not better than 50 nS. Chris Albertson

Re: [ntp:questions] suit against timezone database

2011-10-17 Thread Danny Mayer
On 10/6/2011 3:31 PM, Yan Seiner wrote: > Just came across this on /. > > http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/10/06/1743226/civil-suit-filed-involving-the-time-zone-database > > ?? > ICANN has taken over responsibility for the timezone database and you can get it here: http://www.iana.org/time

Re: [ntp:questions] Trimble Resolution T

2011-10-17 Thread unruh
On 2011-10-17, Miguel Gon?alves wrote: > On 17 October 2011 10:03, Hal Murray > wrote: >> >> There is a driver that covers the Trimble Palisade and Thunderbolt. >> >> If you are lucky, it will work with the Resolution. ?If not, it is >> probably reasonable to add support for it. > > Excluding the

[ntp:questions] Fwd: Two PPS signals, one declared as falseticker

2011-10-17 Thread Nickolay Orekhov
Hello! I have the following configuration: = # drift frequency file driftfile /fs/sd/etc/ntp.drift # midist : increased minimal distance for PPS reference clocks ( default 0.001s ) tos mindist 0.032 # panic : zero to accept in

Re: [ntp:questions] Trimble Resolution T

2011-10-17 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 17 October 2011 10:03, Hal Murray wrote: > > There is a driver that covers the Trimble Palisade and Thunderbolt. > > If you are lucky, it will work with the Resolution.  If not, it is > probably reasonable to add support for it. Excluding the Garmins and Sure Evaluation Boards which both have

Re: [ntp:questions] Trimble Resolution T

2011-10-17 Thread Hal Murray
In article , Bill Unruh writes: > fine. Otherwise I have never used trimble proprietary language so have no > idea what driver to use. There is a driver that covers the Trimble Palisade and Thunderbolt. If you are lucky, it will work with the Resolution. If not, it is probably reasonable to a

Re: [ntp:questions] Atomized NMEA using second numbering from other server

2011-10-17 Thread Terje Mathisen
Miguel Gonçalves wrote: tick# ntpq -p ntp4.ja.net remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == *GENERIC(0) .DCFa. 0 l 58 64 3770.0000.064 0.716 tick# nt