Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-13 Thread William Unruh
On 2015-01-14, Phil W Lee p...@lee-family.me.uk wrote: brian utterback brian.utterb...@oracle.com considered Mon, 12 Jan 2015 04:29:21 GMT the perfect time to write: On 1/11/2015 4:56 PM, Rob wrote: Michael Moroney moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com wrote: If I have a system synchronized with a

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-13 Thread Erwan David
Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org disait le 01/13/15 que : Martin Burnicki writes: Terje Mathisen wrote: I hate to admit it, but I'm starting to believe Google's approach, where they smear the leap second over something like a day, might be one of the better workarounds. This won't work for a

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-13 Thread Harlan Stenn
Erwan David writes: Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org disait le 01/13/15 que : Martin Burnicki writes: Terje Mathisen wrote: I hate to admit it, but I'm starting to believe Google's approach, where they smear the leap second over something like a day, might be one of the better workarounds.

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-13 Thread Terje Mathisen
Brian Utterback wrote: On 1/12/2015 6:29 AM, Mike Cook wrote: Not true. That would violate POSIX. There is no properly implements, or right thing. Perhaps you're unaware that POSIX isn't the One True Operating System specification. Properly implements means it follows the well defined, 40

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-13 Thread Hal Murray
[Context is google-smear.] For distributed logging you have to use the same method for every single node, but that is the case today as well. :-( I.e. with one domain smearing and another stepping, the times between them will be skewed over the entire smearing period. How often do people

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-13 Thread Harlan Stenn
Hal Murray writes: [Context is google-smear.] For distributed logging you have to use the same method for every single node, but that is the case today as well. :-( I.e. with one domain smearing and another stepping, the times between them will be skewed over the entire smearing

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-13 Thread Martin Burnicki
Harlan Stenn wrote: Marco Marongiu writes: On 12/01/15 06:10, William Unruh wrote: I also admit I do not know how windows impliments leap seconds. I don't have a reference, but I remember that at the time of the latest leap second I read that Windows will half the clock speed at 23:59:59 so

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-13 Thread Martin Burnicki
Terje Mathisen wrote: Brian Utterback wrote: On 1/12/2015 6:29 AM, Mike Cook wrote: Not true. That would violate POSIX. There is no properly implements, or right thing. Perhaps you're unaware that POSIX isn't the One True Operating System specification. Properly implements means it follows

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP 4.2.8 for Windows, not branded

2015-01-13 Thread Martin Burnicki
Brian Inglis wrote: On 2015-01-12 00:32, Harlan Stenn wrote: Brian Inglis writes: Current OpenSSL version is 1.0.1k since maintenance improved after Heartbleed encouraged LF/CII and others to fund OpenSSL. Which OpenSSL version is currently required? Any way that support of updated OpenSSL

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-13 Thread David Taylor
On 13/01/2015 08:58, Hal Murray wrote: [] How often do people working with log files from 2 systems care about fractions of a second? I am comparing log files with a user in another country, where we are looking at errors in satellite data. As there can be many messages per second, using

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-13 Thread Martin Burnicki
Marco Marongiu wrote: On 12/01/15 11:48, Martin Burnicki wrote: Fortunately Dave Hart had some time to have a closer look at this, and fix it for 4.2.6, so unless something has been broken again in the mean time it should be fixed in 4.2.6 and later, and should work correctly. Let me

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-13 Thread Harlan Stenn
David Taylor writes: On 13/01/2015 08:58, Hal Murray wrote: [] How often do people working with log files from 2 systems care about fractions of a second? I have spoken with enterprise users who have to correlate logging timestamps between 50-200 (or more) systems in cloud deployments and

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-13 Thread Harlan Stenn
Martin Burnicki writes: Terje Mathisen wrote: I hate to admit it, but I'm starting to believe Google's approach, where they smear the leap second over something like a day, might be one of the better workarounds. This won't work for a bunch of folks. Other folks *hate* this approach because

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-13 Thread Harlan Stenn
Harlan Stenn writes: David Taylor writes: On 13/01/2015 08:58, Hal Murray wrote: [] How often do people working with log files from 2 systems care about fractions of a second? I have spoken with enterprise users who have to correlate logging timestamps between 50-200 (or more)