Re: [ntp:questions] Time synchronization

2009-02-06 Thread Rob
David Mills mi...@udel.edu wrote: Third, the data reported is not from ntpd, but another daemon called gpsd. Apparently it doesn'tt like the PPS signal. I don't know what grooming algorithm it uses, but both the kernel and atom driver use a trimmed-mean median filter, which is a rather

Re: [ntp:questions] noise, frequency, stability, tai, rootdispersion, ...

2009-02-03 Thread Rob Neal
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, alkope...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Where can I find a detailed description of all these values provided by ntpq -c rv? What do you think which values are important for logging and graphical display to see problems fast? Here is an example

Re: [ntp:questions] Learnings: FC8 Linux ntpd syncs to NMEA message but not PPS

2009-01-30 Thread Rob
phil.new...@wendysarbys.com phil.new...@wendysarbys.com wrote: - If you have NMEA output from the GPS in your ntp.conf file (127.127.20.0), expect it to have reach 0 reported when you finally get PPS (127.127.28.0) working. You can have NMEA or PPS from your serial input, you just can't have

Re: [ntp:questions] Sudden drop in frequency after software update

2009-01-19 Thread Rob van der Putten
these variations. ISTR it being mentioned in the FAQ. URL? Regards, Rob ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Sudden drop in frequency after software update

2009-01-19 Thread Rob van der Putten
all over the place as described. However, it appears that this may have finally been fixed. It's pretty stable except for this perticular reboot on this perticular box. Regards, Rob ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https

[ntp:questions] Sudden drop in frequency after software update

2009-01-18 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there One of my Debian Lenny boxes more then halved it's 'frequency' after a software update (among others, kernel and ntpd). It used to be 43 ppm and is now below 17 ppm and still dropping. Is this normal? Regards, Rob ___ questions mailing

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpdate refusing ntp.nmi.nl

2009-01-09 Thread Rob Neal
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009, Folkert van Heusden wrote: transmitted 4, in filter 4 reference time:cd0c473b.73087696 Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:45:47.449 originate timestamp: cd0f5b7d.d6ff250b Wed, Jan 7 2009 17:49:01.839 transmit timestamp: cd0f5b7d.cf7e90ff Wed, Jan 7 2009 17:49:01.810 filter

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpdate refusing ntp.nmi.nl

2009-01-09 Thread Rob Neal
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009, Folkert van Heusden wrote: Hi, Got one question: reference time:cd0c473b.73087696 Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:45:47.449 ( http://nmi.nl/index.php?pageId=1215lg=nl ) A wireshark capture shows that it sends a bogu reftime ... Reference Clock Update Time: Jan 5, 2009

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpdate refusing ntp.nmi.nl

2009-01-08 Thread Rob Neal
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Heiko Gerstung wrote: Folkert van Heusden schrieb: Hi, It seems the Dutch NMi organisation (which is the time reference for the Netherlands) has an NTP-service as well. Now I tried retrieving the time with ntpdate (just to see if it was reachable) but ntpdate refuses

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpdate refusing ntp.nmi.nl

2009-01-07 Thread Rob Neal
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Folkert van Heusden wrote: Hi, It seems the Dutch NMi organisation (which is the time reference for the Netherlands) has an NTP-service as well. Now I tried retrieving the time with ntpdate (just to see if it was reachable) but ntpdate refuses it. Using the regular ntp

Re: [ntp:questions] My extra second ...

2009-01-01 Thread Rob van der Putten
2.6.26-12 (identical source). 2.6.26-1-486 locked up, 2.6.26-1-686 did not. Neither did my Sarge 2.4.27-2-686 Pentium II or Sid 2.6.20-1-686 Pentium III. Apart from that everything went smoothly. Apparently my ISPs clocks messed up again. Regards, Rob

Re: [ntp:questions] Garmin GPS 18LVC Setup but questions on best way

2008-12-31 Thread Rob van der Putten
... 15 V [2] TTL high is actually Ca 3.5 V. CMOS high is 5 V (when supplied with 5 V power). Regards, Rob -- Anglo-Saxon management is a memetic virus ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Garmin GPS 18LVC Setup but questions on best way

2008-12-31 Thread Rob van der Putten
that of an RS232 C receiver, so one would expect somewhat lower an output voltage into the real load. Figures for 4000 series CMOS, from 1975 RCA COS/MOS Integrated Circuits Data Book. Regards, Rob ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org

Re: [ntp:questions] Question about 2008 leap second

2008-12-31 Thread Rob van der Putten
and a few other people and institutions. I read that, during the previous leap second, in the countdown to the new year on BBC TV, the last 'second' lasted two instead of one seconds. Regards, Rob ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https

Re: [ntp:questions] Question about 2008 leap second

2008-12-31 Thread Rob van der Putten
second of the old. I assume BBC (and ntp ) follow the former. AFAIK, the first is the standard, the second the implementation. Regards, Rob ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Garmin GPS 18LVC Setup but questions on best way

2008-12-28 Thread Rob van der Putten
127.127.28.0 refid PPS ttyS1 gets all the signals, ttyS0 just the PPS. This worked better then GPSD, so I think I will return to this setup. Cut Regards, Rob ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Garmin GPS 18LVC Setup but questions on best way

2008-12-28 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there George R. Kasica wrote: Did you need to use two physical serial plugs or a splitter or just do this with symlinks in the OS? Two plugs. Regards, Rob -- Anglo-Saxon management is a memetic virus ___ questions mailing list questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Garmin GPS 18x LVC huge offset between PPS and NMEA -- up to 700 ms

2008-12-23 Thread Rob van der Putten
127.127.28.1 refid PPSa NTPD want to make shore that GPS time source isn't talking nonsense. This means you have to use an other time source as well. Regards, Rob ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] basic questions about the leapsecond

2008-12-19 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there Hal Murray wrote: That site is unlikely to be down for long. It's still down. I can ping time.nist.gov, but it won't FTP. Are you behind a NAT box? I need to use the passive mode for ftp. No. I also tried the shell box at my ISP. Same result. Regards, Rob

Re: [ntp:questions] basic questions about the leapsecond

2008-12-19 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there David L. Mills wrote: I am told the file is on all NTP servers operated by NIST. See the list of public servers at NIST or www.ntp.org. ftp://ntp-a.boulder.nist.gov/pub/leap-seconds.3427142400 works Thanks! Regards, Rob ___ questions

Re: [ntp:questions] basic questions about the leapsecond

2008-12-18 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there Antonio M. Moreiras wrote: Cut 1 - download ftp://time.nist.gov/pub/leap-seconds.3427142400 Is there an other source? This site appears to be down. Cut Regards, Rob ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https

Re: [ntp:questions] list posts in UTF-8

2008-10-27 Thread Rob van der Putten
-8 [RFC3629] (note that US-ASCII is a subset of UTF-8); That's transport, not content. For content the RFC refers to MIME. Regards, Rob ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] list posts in UTF-8

2008-10-27 Thread Rob van der Putten
that is at fault? If it is the list itself... well, isn't it absurd to restrict content of a mailing list to 7-bit us-ascii? It is 2008, not 1988. Post 1999 software should support UTF-8. Regards, Rob ___ questions mailing list questions

Re: [ntp:questions] list posts in UTF-8

2008-10-27 Thread Rob van der Putten
. I would have to look up which one. Regards, Rob ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] list posts in UTF-8

2008-10-27 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there David J Taylor wrote: Those characters display correctly on my NNTP feed from my ISP, using Microsoft Outlook Express for news-reading. You convert the text without stating the charset used, which makes non ascii unreadable. This is probably an Outlook bug. Regards, Rob

Re: [ntp:questions] QoS always the same Freebsd 6.1 ntpd [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-10-05 Thread Rob Neal
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008, Hans J?rgen Jakobsen wrote: I would like NTP traffic to use my providers EF traffic class. One way of doing that would be to send packet with DSCP == 46 (TOS byte == 184). But I have had no luck. I have fetched latest dev version ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) No matter if what i

Re: [ntp:questions] Odd (mis)behavior when reference clock fails

2008-09-18 Thread Rob Neal
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, Kevin Oberman wrote: We have a fairly large mesh of NTP servers spread across the US. Almost all have PPS reference clocks and are quite accurate. Recently one of the reference clocks located across the county seems to have failed. Such is life. The problem is that the

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

2008-09-04 Thread Rob
Richard B. Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My memory grows DIMM but ISTR there is a program in at least some Unix or Unix-like operating systems that will tell you which program(s) have which files open. Give me a few weeks or months to think about it and the answer will bubble up from

Re: [ntp:questions] symmetricom / BC635 openBSD (or freeBSD) driver

2008-03-10 Thread Rob Neal
The driver was written for FreeBSD, not OpenBSD. It's under a BSD license, feel free to port it. Rob On Mon, 10 Mar 2008, Andrew Gallo wrote: Thanks for the quick reply. Symmetricom actually has the freeBSD source code, which I am trying to compile without success. As far as writing

Re: [ntp:questions] drift value very large and very unstable

2008-03-08 Thread Rob Neal
the constraints you wish to assume. Rob ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] drift value very large and very unstable

2008-03-06 Thread Rob Neal
11.20 12.02 12.93 13.86 14.90, filtdisp= 0.000.240.480.740.991.261.52 1.79 Looks like the offset is still trending to zero, with a long way to go. Rob ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org

Re: [ntp:questions] drift value very large and very unstable

2008-03-05 Thread Rob Neal
-c as -c rv x (where x is the association index for the refclock 16) and ntpq -crv would be useful. Rob ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Problems distibuting time from GPSD programto NTPD

2008-02-07 Thread Rob van der Putten
Regards, Rob -- When the Iron Curtain fell, all of the West rejoiced that the East would become just as free as the West. It was never supposed to be the other way around. (Rick Falkvinge) ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https

Re: [ntp:questions] Ultralink 325 WWVB receiver

2008-02-02 Thread Rob Kimberley
your plots. The link http://www.febo.com/time-freq/wwvb/vlf.html gives some info on diurnal shifts on WWVB, but these look to me in 10s of microseconds rather than the figures you quote. Interesting to see if anyone else has any ideas. Rob K

Re: [ntp:questions] Ultralink 325 WWVB receiver

2008-02-01 Thread Rob Kimberley
of the step you are seeing? If on a regular 24 hour basis, I'm guessing due to diurnal affects. Do you have a plot we can see? Rob Kimberley ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] First attempt GPSD/PPS -NTP time server

2008-01-31 Thread Rob van der Putten
Regards, Rob -- When the Iron Curtain fell, all of the West rejoiced that the East would become just as free as the West. It was never supposed to be the other way around. (Rick Falkvinge) ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https

Re: [ntp:questions] First attempt GPSD/PPS -NTP time server

2008-01-29 Thread Rob van der Putten
. Now it's at six lines per second; GPRMC, GPGGA, GPGSA and three GPGSV lines (plus one PGRMT per minute). Regards, Rob -- When the Iron Curtain fell, all of the West rejoiced that the East would become just as free as the West. It was never supposed to be the other way around. (Rick Falkvinge

Re: [ntp:questions] First attempt GPSD/PPS -NTP time server

2008-01-29 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there Rob van der Putten wrote: Cut My Garmin was sending to much data, sending a NMEA sentence once per second. Sorry, once per two seconds. Cut Regards, Rob -- When the Iron Curtain fell, all of the West rejoiced that the East would become just as free as the West. It was never

Re: [ntp:questions] First attempt GPSD/PPS -NTP time server

2008-01-29 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there Steve Kostecke wrote: There is no benefit to sending all of those NMEA sentences. Select one and turn the rest off. For just time GPRMC will do. Regards, Rob -- When the Iron Curtain fell, all of the West rejoiced that the East would become just as free as the West

Re: [ntp:questions] Lep seconds

2008-01-16 Thread Rob Kimberley
Have come across requirements in MIL sat comms systems that need GPS time as well as UTC. In fact I supplied a system to a MIL customer a few years ago with two Zyfer GPS NTP servers - one set to provide UTC time and the other set to provide GPS time. Rob Kimberley David L. Mills [EMAIL

Re: [ntp:questions] using both a PPS source and a HBG (dcf-77-like) timesource?

2008-01-14 Thread Rob Kimberley
remember correctly, and from your post, you are in Netherlands, so you can estimate propagation delay. However, I don't see why you would want to use an LF reference of lesser accuracy and estimated delay when you can use GPS. Just a thought. Good luck Rob Kimberley

[ntp:questions] Wireless Routers and NTP

2007-11-28 Thread Rob Kimberley
and Router to be taking time from same source. Cheers Rob Kimberley ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Wireless Routers and NTP

2007-11-28 Thread Rob Kimberley
Richard B. Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Kimberley wrote: Does anyone have recommendations for an ADSL Wireless Router that I can manually set the NTP Server address on? My Belkin unit comes pre-configured with external server addresses. I want

Re: [ntp:questions] Inexpensive OEM GPS units?

2007-11-21 Thread Rob van der Putten
Euro zone [1] are free of charge. Outside the EU they are very expensive. [1] Also called Euro land. These are countries which use the euro (not the entire EU). It doesn't include the UK. Regards, Rob -- Avoid alphabet soup. Include the charset in your HTML header; META HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type

Re: [ntp:questions] Inexpensive OEM GPS units?

2007-11-21 Thread Rob van der Putten
=VIEWPRODProdID=121 MegaGPS.com ships internationally. I don't know about Garmin. Their webform is broken. Any suggestions? Regards, Rob -- Avoid alphabet soup. Include the charset in your HTML header; META HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type CONTENT=text/html; charset=Your_Charset

Re: [ntp:questions] Inexpensive OEM GPS units?

2007-11-21 Thread Rob van der Putten
-lvc-oem-system-waas12.html I hope it actually does work. Regards, Rob -- Avoid alphabet soup. Include the charset in your HTML header; META HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type CONTENT=text/html; charset=Your_Charset ___ questions mailing list questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Inexpensive OEM GPS units?

2007-11-20 Thread Rob van der Putten
order one from the Garmin site? Regards, Rob -- Avoid alphabet soup. Include the charset in your HTML header; META HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type CONTENT=text/html; charset=Your_Charset ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd crashing on startup

2007-10-10 Thread Rob
, I should not need to do that. I do not have RANDFILE defined. According to the docs at http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/keygen.html#rand , ntpd should look at /root/.rnd for the random file if RANDFILE is not defined. It looks like a bug to me. But it is easy to get around. Rob

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd crashing on startup

2007-10-10 Thread Rob
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:19:00 -0400, Rob wrote: It looks like a bug to me. But it is easy to get around. I am running ntp 4.2.4p4 - the stable version. I have filed a bug report. See http://support.bugs.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=936 It looks like a bug in EITHER ntpd or in the docs. I see

Re: [ntp:questions] Trapping in ntpd

2007-10-04 Thread Rob
Steve wrote: Why don't you test it? Well, I did. And got some strange results. First of all, if you specify notrap on your restrict line(s), you don't stop all traps. You will get at least one trap messaage stating that auth has failed. e.g robs-computer:~ rob$ perl /Users/rob/Desktop

Re: [ntp:questions] Trapping in ntpd

2007-10-03 Thread Rob
restrict line). Of course, there is no harm is also adding notap to restrict lines that have noquery on them. If my understanding is incorrect, I hope someone will correct me. :-) Rob ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https

Re: [ntp:questions] Trapping in ntpd

2007-10-03 Thread Rob
. I suspect the noquery would also block traps. I am not sure. Under this situation, one could use ntp authentication on the LAN to help ensure trustworthiness of the time source. Rob ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https

[ntp:questions] Trapping in ntpd

2007-10-02 Thread Rob
. If one uses the noquery restriction, then does the notrap option do anything? I think not. If all queries are blocked then how can one do any trapping? Is this correct? Rob ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org

Re: [ntp:questions] Help -- Problem Syncing With time.nrc.ca

2007-10-01 Thread Rob
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:41:40 -0400, Rob wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 09:50:04 -0400, Rob wrote: But my Linux box gets a Kiss of Death (kod) packet (.INIT.) when trying to connect or sync to time.nrc.ca. (I can connect and sync to time.chu.nrc.ca). Hmm. After restarting ntpd, my

[ntp:questions] New Orphan Mode

2007-10-01 Thread Rob
? Rob ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Help -- Problem Syncing With time.nrc.ca

2007-09-30 Thread Rob
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 09:50:04 -0400, Rob wrote: But my Linux box gets a Kiss of Death (kod) packet (.INIT.) when trying to connect or sync to time.nrc.ca. (I can connect and sync to time.chu.nrc.ca). Hmm. After restarting ntpd, my Linix box connected to time.nrc.ca. But this behaviour

Re: [ntp:questions] WiFi NTP.

2007-08-29 Thread Rob Kimberley
with wireless routers. Rob Kimberley Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear all, I am a student from a French engineering school. I am currently working on a synchronization over WiFi project that could apply to embedded devices. For the moment, I have only reached

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP MRTG graphs?

2007-08-01 Thread Rob van der Putten
properly; http://www.sput.nl/ntpstats/pc5/pc5-ntp-freq.png It just says 74, 74, 74 etc.. Instead of 73.9, 74.0, 74.1, etc. It's OK on my Sarge box though; http://www.sput.nl/ntpstats/rrdtool/sput-ntp-freq.png Regards, Rob

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