Marco Marongiu writes:
On 08/12/14 04:00, Harlan Stenn wrote:
Several more volunteers (coders and sysadmin typs) would be great,
too.
Can you please elaborate on what kind of help do you need from sysadmin
folks, please?
We have equipment in 4 locations at the moment.
Folks comfortable
Phil W Lee wrote:
Martin Burnicki martin.burni...@meinberg.de considered Fri, 05 Dec
2014 14:15:31 +0100 the perfect time to write:
You may run into problems if your WAN connection has asymmetric delays,
and thus to 2 servers on the WAN *seem* to have the same offset which
differs from the
On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 09:46:35 +, David Woolley wrote:
On 07/12/14 09:08, detha wrote:
More and more of those servers end up being virtualized. Quicker
reaction to virtualization funnies, and faster convergence on VMs that
are spun up/down on demand, seem to be one of the main reasons
On 08/12/14 04:08, Paul wrote:
I asked before but I'll try again since tsc has come up.
Mills says (Mitigation Rules and the prefer Keyword):
The clock combine algorithm uses the survivor list to produce a weighted
average of both offset and jitter. Absent other considerations discussed
later,
Paul wrote:
I asked before but I'll try again since tsc has come up.
Mills says (Mitigation Rules and the prefer Keyword):
The clock combine algorithm uses the survivor list to produce a weighted
average of both offset and jitter. Absent other considerations discussed
later, the *combined
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:46 AM, David Woolley
david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote:
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It's a mail client
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On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:46 AM, David Woolley
david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote:
There is a lot of confusion in the community about this because of the
concept of a system peer, and simplistic explanations of what this means.
Yet I wouldn't expect phk to have a simplistic understanding of
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 03:27:15AM +, William Unruh wrote:
On 2014-12-07, Charles Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:
Yes, so chrony recommends using maxpoll=4 to the LAN, and not only to local
refclocks.
No, read the chrony docs. the default is maxpoll 10 minpoll 5.
The default minpoll
On Sat, Dec 06, 2014 at 03:35:10PM -0500, Paul wrote:
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 11:12 AM, William Unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote:
And in my tests 10 years ago or so, I used a local gps clock to test the
ability of chrony and ntpd to discipline a computer clock networked to
another server which
On Dec 7, 2014, at 7:19 PM, William Unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote:
I suspect most people are a bit more likely to use air conditioning to
control ambient
temperature changes then they are to desolder and swap out their crystals in
the
hopes of obtaining more precise timekeeping
On Dec 7, 2014, at 7:27 PM, William Unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote:
On 2014-12-07, Charles Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:
On Dec 6, 2014, at 8:33 AM, William Unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote:
On 2014-12-06, Charles Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:
[ ... ]
Dude, give it a rest. You've just acknowledged
On 2014-12-08, Charles Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:
On Dec 7, 2014, at 7:19 PM, William Unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote:
I suspect most people are a bit more likely to use air conditioning to
control ambient
temperature changes then they are to desolder and swap out their crystals
in the
When using the pool directive, NTP tries to get a certain total number
of servers. What is that number, please (I don't know where to find it
in the source code). I'm seeing a total of 9 servers, with ten lines in
the ntpq -pn output, one line being the pool directive itself. Is that
On Dec 8, 2014, at 9:19 AM, William Unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote:
Data point: for a normal desktop machine I have at home, which has a
95W TDP i5 CPU and a 145W 970 GPU, I can see a ~12C temperature change
on the motherboard temp sensor between idle and full load on both as the
total system
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 12:27 PM, David Taylor
david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid wrote:
When using the pool directive, NTP tries to get a certain total number of
servers. What is that number, please (I don't know where to find it in the
source code). I'm seeing a total of 9 servers, with
Martin Burnicki wrote:
If the connection from your local site to the internet
has the asymmetry then *each* NTP server at a remote site
has the same additional systematic offset,
so if you use more than 2 they can overvote your local NTP servers.
One of our customers had such a case,
On 12/4/2014 6:56 PM, William Unruh wrote:
One source is fine, unless it either dies or goes nuts.
Two are fine, unless on goes nuts.
Define goes nuts. Two are not fine if they don't agree on the time,
and in my experience the many of the admins that consider using only two
servers are unable
In article m5jrm9$gje$1...@dont-email.me,
David Woolley david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote:
On 02/12/14 01:59, edstu...@gmail.com wrote:
At the same time, we want drift less than 1 second. However, over
Drift is a pure number. If you ever get a time error of more than
100ms, ntpd is in
On 2014-12-08, Brian Utterback brian.utterb...@oracle.com wrote:
On 12/4/2014 6:56 PM, William Unruh wrote:
One source is fine, unless it either dies or goes nuts.
Two are fine, unless on goes nuts.
Define goes nuts. Two are not fine if they don't agree on the time,
and in my experience the
On Sunday, December 7, 2014 7:25:01 PM UTC-8, Harlan Stenn wrote:
Rob writes:
David Woolley david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote:
It starts off a bit badly by talking about the size of nptd, when, in
fact, very little of ntpd is actually involved in the core algorithm.
Most of it, I
On 2014-12-09, skillz...@gmail.com skillz...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, December 7, 2014 7:25:01 PM UTC-8, Harlan Stenn wrote:
Rob writes:
David Woolley david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote:
It starts off a bit badly by talking about the size of nptd, when, in
fact, very little of ntpd
On Dec 8, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Phil W Lee p...@lee-family.me.uk wrote:
With air-conditioning on, the temperature change shrinks to about 5C,
which reduces the thermal wandering of the XO by a factor of 2. That
seems to be a worthwhile improvement, not largely irrelevant.
Of course, server
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