Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd questions - FreeBSD 5.5

2009-07-20 Thread Danny Mayer
David Shoulders wrote: Danny - I don't have a critical need for accuracy, so I didn't want to add any more load to the servers than necessary. I thought that a few hits 4 times a day would be a smaller load than running the daemon all the time. Now that my computer's clock seems to be

[ntp:questions] Testing Sync Across Several Systems

2009-07-20 Thread T
Greetings: We have about 50 Linux/Solaris/Windows boxes running ntpd at several different sites. Some of the systems from time to time go out of sync. My question is there a way to test ntpd machines are all in sync with the master server? I was thinking of using ssh to get on to each machine to

Re: [ntp:questions] Testing Sync Across Several Systems

2009-07-20 Thread Jan Ceuleers
T wrote: We have about 50 Linux/Solaris/Windows boxes running ntpd at several different sites. Some of the systems from time to time go out of sync. My question is there a way to test ntpd machines are all in sync with the master server? The easiest way I can think of is to poll those

Re: [ntp:questions] Testing Sync Across Several Systems

2009-07-20 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
T wrote: Greetings: We have about 50 Linux/Solaris/Windows boxes running ntpd at several different sites. Some of the systems from time to time go out of sync. My question is there a way to test ntpd machines are all in sync with the master server? I was thinking of using ssh to get on

[ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-20 Thread paul
Hi All, I'm new to NTP, glad to meet you here. I did some experiments to test NTP performance on WINNT. In an isolated network, two machines are inter connnected with a switcher. Machine A is configure as a stratum 12 NTP server, using lcl as reference clock; machine B is sychronized to machine

Re: [ntp:questions] Testing Sync Across Several Systems

2009-07-20 Thread paul
On Jul 20, 8:38 pm, T g41...@motorola.com wrote: Greetings: We have about 50 Linux/Solaris/Windows boxes running ntpd at several different sites. Some of the systems from time to time go out of sync. My question is there a way to test ntpd machines are all in sync with the master server?

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-20 Thread David J Taylor
paul wrote: Hi All, I'm new to NTP, glad to meet you here. I did some experiments to test NTP performance on WINNT. In an isolated network, two machines are inter connnected with a switcher. Machine A is configure as a stratum 12 NTP server, using lcl as reference clock; machine B is

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-20 Thread paul
On Jul 20, 10:36 pm, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.not- this-part.nor-this.co.uk.invalid wrote: paul wrote: Hi All, I'm new to NTP, glad to meet you here. I did some experiments to test NTP performance on WINNT. In an isolated network, two machines are inter connnected with a

Re: [ntp:questions] Testing Sync Across Several Systems

2009-07-20 Thread T
Does the problem manifest under all three operating systems??  Do all the machines involved run 24x7?  Is the network available 24x7?  What are you using for a master server?  Where does the master server get time Hi: Disclaimer: I know very little about ntpd. With that said. These

Re: [ntp:questions] Testing Sync Across Several Systems

2009-07-20 Thread Jan Ceuleers
T wrote: Got a couple of quests here. He had box1thru50.domain.tld What does the .tld mean? I dropped that in the configuration file... Is the .INIT. in the refid field a problem? These are all Solaris boxes... Tom, Replace the box1thru50.domain.tld with the DNS names of your 50 boxes. If

Re: [ntp:questions] Testing Sync Across Several Systems

2009-07-20 Thread David J Taylor
T wrote: [] Got a couple of quests here. He had box1thru50.domain.tld What does the .tld mean? Top level domain? I dropped that in the configuration file... Is the .INIT. in the refid field a problem? These are all Solaris boxes... Thanks Tom INIT means that NTP can't talk to the box,

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-20 Thread David J Taylor
paul wrote: [] Thank you, David. In my situation, no GPS is availiable. So can I expect better performance when GPS is used as reference clock, or when a stratum-1 NTP server is added to the network? Local GPS or a local stratum-1 server will make a significant difference. When using the

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-20 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
paul wrote: On Jul 20, 10:36 pm, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.not- this-part.nor-this.co.uk.invalid wrote: paul wrote: Hi All, I'm new to NTP, glad to meet you here. I did some experiments to test NTP performance on WINNT. In an isolated network, two machines are inter connnected

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-20 Thread David J Taylor
David J Taylor wrote: [] And, I noticed the offset for Narvik is more stable than that for Hydra, is it due the PPS feeded to Narvik? But Bacchus is doing good too without PPS, Why? Correction: Hydra is running Windows-7. Because Windows Vista and Windows-7 may have a 1KHz clock, the

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-20 Thread David J Taylor
Richard B. Gilbert wrote: [] Assuming a GPS *TIMING* receiver, and that it can be installed with the antenna having a good view of MOST of the sky, you can expect results that are *almost* as good as the atomic clocks on board the satellites! You do need to run a site survey to establish your

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-20 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
David J Taylor wrote: Richard B. Gilbert wrote: [] Assuming a GPS *TIMING* receiver, and that it can be installed with the antenna having a good view of MOST of the sky, you can expect results that are *almost* as good as the atomic clocks on board the satellites! You do need to run a site

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-20 Thread Dave Hart
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:57 PM, paul wrote: Hi All, I'm new to NTP, glad to meet you here. I did some experiments to test NTP performance on WINNT. [...] The OS is Windows XP Pro SP3 and NTP software is 4.2.4-p7 from mainberg.

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-20 Thread David J Taylor
Richard B. Gilbert wrote: [] That is what a site survey is. The GPS determines its location a few hundreds of times over the course of a day and does a least squares calculation to get a reasonable approximation of your latitude and longitude. Cellular phone base stations do a more extended

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd questions - FreeBSD 5.5

2009-07-20 Thread Danny Mayer
Todd Glassey wrote: Danny Mayer wrote: Run ntpd continuously and see if that solves your problem. Which opens a huge security problem - you should ONLY run NTPd on systems which are serving time to other systems. Otherwise a simple CRON process to every minute test the existing setting

Re: [ntp:questions] Testing Sync Across Several Systems

2009-07-20 Thread David Woolley
Jan Ceuleers wrote: ce the box1thru50.domain.tld with the DNS names of your 50 boxes. If they're not in DNS, and you know their static IP addresses you can specify those instead. The .INIT. means that your monitoring host has not received any NTP packets from these machines at all yet. Two

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-20 Thread Unruh
Richard B. Gilbert rgilber...@comcast.net writes: David J Taylor wrote: Richard B. Gilbert wrote: [] Assuming a GPS *TIMING* receiver, and that it can be installed with the antenna having a good view of MOST of the sky, you can expect results that are *almost* as good as the atomic clocks on

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-20 Thread Unruh
David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.not-this-part.nor-this.co.uk.invalid writes: Richard B. Gilbert wrote: [] That is what a site survey is. The GPS determines its location a few hundreds of times over the course of a day and does a least squares calculation to get a reasonable

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-20 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
Unruh wrote: Richard B. Gilbert rgilber...@comcast.net writes: David J Taylor wrote: Richard B. Gilbert wrote: [] Assuming a GPS *TIMING* receiver, and that it can be installed with the antenna having a good view of MOST of the sky, you can expect results that are *almost* as good as the

Re: [ntp:questions] Testing Sync Across Several Systems

2009-07-20 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2009-07-20, David Woolley da...@djwhome.demon.co.uk wrote: I also noted that there was a poor choice of servers, i.e. a lot of well known, overloaded, stratum one servers, when it probably needs lightly loaded, local stratum 2 servers. Which may be chosen from http://support.ntp.org/s2

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd questions - FreeBSD 5.5

2009-07-20 Thread David Shoulders
Danny - I don't have a critical need for accuracy, so I didn't want to add any more load to the servers than necessary. I thought that a few hits 4 times a day would be a smaller load than running the daemon all the time. Now that my computer's clock seems to be running inconsistently, the

Re: [ntp:questions] Testing Sync Across Several Systems

2009-07-20 Thread Nottorf, Stefan
Hello, We use Nagios to monitor our system - you can use one of the prepared checks (check_ntp_time) to monitor the synchronization of your nodes. You'll need the NRPE-Plugin for Nagios also. No costs involved (except your time, of course). Regards, Stefan -Original Message- Greetings:

Re: [ntp:questions] Testing Sync Across Several Systems

2009-07-20 Thread Todd Glassey
T wrote: Greetings: We have about 50 Linux/Solaris/Windows boxes running ntpd at several different sites. Some of the systems from time to time go out of sync. My question is there a way to test ntpd machines are all in sync with the master server? Sure run a peering based log capture

Re: [ntp:questions] Is there any way to configure one Server as NTP Stratum1 with its own clock (the system clock)?

2009-07-20 Thread Todd Glassey
Danny Mayer wrote: Miguel Angel Fernández wrote: Hello everybody Can anybody help me, please? Is there any way to configure one Server (Debian Linux) as NTP Stratum1 with its own clock (the system clock)? yes The reason for this question is that we need to synchronize one

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd questions - FreeBSD 5.5

2009-07-20 Thread Todd Glassey
Danny Mayer wrote: David Shoulders wrote: Danny - I don't have a critical need for accuracy, so I didn't want to add any more load to the servers than necessary. I thought that a few hits 4 times a day would be a smaller load than running the daemon all the time. Now that my

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Performance on WINNT

2009-07-20 Thread paul
On Jul 20, 11:45 pm, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.not- this-part.nor-this.co.uk.invalid wrote: paul wrote: [] Thank you, David. In my situation, no GPS is availiable. So can I expect better performance when GPS is used as reference clock, or when a stratum-1 NTP server is