Re: [Rd] Google Summer of Code 2009

2009-02-19 Thread Simon Urbanek
Oleg, On Feb 19, 2009, at 9:47 , Sklyar, Oleg (London) wrote: Simon, I would not like to take it offline as I disagree with your points and think it is fair to let other users know why. I didn't say offline, I said other thread, since this is not really about GSOC so I think this is

Re: [Rd] Google Summer of Code 2009

2009-02-19 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
[ Cool how nobody cared about Fritz' request not to post ideas yet :) ] [ I broadly share Oleg's wouldn't it be nice to have better plot devices wish. But I don't think it is a three-month summer target, and it's not on the side of things Fritz / Manuel prefer as it is infrastructure

[Rd] interactive graphics for R: was Google Summer of Code 2009

2009-02-19 Thread Sklyar, Oleg (London)
Dear Simon, thanks for comments. I better give a bit of a background first. We are analysing time series of financial data, often multivariate and with say 200K samples. It is quite a frequent situation that one needs to display multivariate time series of say 200K rows and 10 columns over

[Rd] Interactive Graphics in R [Was: Google Summer of Code 2009]

2009-02-19 Thread Simon Urbanek
On Feb 19, 2009, at 11:20 , Yihui Xie wrote: Well, for the first idea, isn't it easy enough to fulfill zooming or panning using getGraphicsEvent() in the grDevices package? Yes, but that's exactly what interactive graphics are NOT about (you just posted a good chewing gum reference from

Re: [Rd] heatmap without dendrogams (PR#13512)

2009-02-19 Thread ligges
j.j.goe...@lumc.nl wrote: Full_Name: Jelle Goeman Version: 2.8.1 OS: Win XP Submission from: (NULL) (87.212.67.197) I get the following error message when I try to make a heatmap (package stats), without the associated dendrograms. X - matrix(rnorm(200),20,10) XX - crossprod(X)

[Rd] bugfix for nls with port algorithm (PR#13540)

2009-02-19 Thread Manuel . A . Morales
Full_Name: Manuel A. Morales Version: 2.8.1 OS: Linux Submission from: (NULL) (137.165.199.246) When fitting a model in nls using the algorithm port with constraints and the shorthand parameter[factor] in the model, I get the following error message: Error in nls_port_fit(m, start, lower,

Re: [Rd] bugfix for nls with port algorithm (PR#13540)

2009-02-19 Thread William Dunlap
-Original Message- From: r-devel-boun...@r-project.org [mailto:r-devel-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of manuel.a.mora...@williams.edu Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:55 AM To: r-de...@stat.math.ethz.ch Cc: r-b...@r-project.org Subject: [Rd] bugfix for nls with port

Re: [Rd] bugfix for nls with port algorithm (PR#13540)

2009-02-19 Thread wdunlap
-Original Message- From: r-devel-boun...@r-project.org=20 [mailto:r-devel-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of=20 manuel.a.mora...@williams.edu Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:55 AM To: r-de...@stat.math.ethz.ch Cc: r-b...@r-project.org Subject: [Rd] bugfix for nls with port

Re: [Rd] Interactive Graphics in R [Was: Google Summer of Code 2009]

2009-02-19 Thread hadley wickham
What we need is a more general framework for interactive graphics - this requires more than just a graphics subsystem - you have to depart from the concept of graphics objects and include statistical objects in the mix such that the underlying data/statistics etc. can be identified by linking

Re: [Rd] Interactive Graphics in R [Was: Google Summer of Code 2009]

2009-02-19 Thread Oleg Sklyar
Simon, as promised I attach a simple package that utilises gtkdatabox. It is Linux only, sorry for that: as it was hacked together in the last two hours I did not have time for Windows stuff. Under my Ubuntu I only had to install libgtkdatabox-dev from standard repos (which would pull

Re: [Rd] vignette compilation times

2009-02-19 Thread Friedrich Leisch
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:47:12 +, Robin Hankin (RH) wrote: thanks for this clarification Uwe Could I include the r_env_cache/ directory in the package and then assume that the CRAN checks use Sweave( , driver=weaver()) in which case the process takes about 10 seconds?

Re: [Rd] vignette compilation times

2009-02-19 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Friedrich Leisch friedrich.lei...@stat.uni-muenchen.de wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:47:12 +, Robin Hankin (RH) wrote: thanks for this clarification Uwe Could I include the r_env_cache/ directory in the package and then assume that the CRAN checks

Re: [Rd] Interactive Graphics in R [Was: Google Summer of Code 2009]

2009-02-19 Thread Simon Urbanek
On Feb 19, 2009, at 16:36 , hadley wickham wrote: What we need is a more general framework for interactive graphics - this requires more than just a graphics subsystem - you have to depart from the concept of graphics objects and include statistical objects in the mix such that the

Re: [Rd] Google Summer of Code 2009

2009-02-19 Thread Friedrich Leisch
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:52:19 -0600, Dirk Eddelbuettel (DE) wrote: [ Cool how nobody cared about Fritz' request not to post ideas yet :) ] Well, I kind of expected that ;-) See also below. [ I broadly share Oleg's wouldn't it be nice to have better plot devices wish. But I don't

Re: [Rd] vignette compilation times

2009-02-19 Thread Friedrich Leisch
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:47:53 -0500, Gabor Grothendieck (GG) wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Friedrich Leisch friedrich.lei...@stat.uni-muenchen.de wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:47:12 +, Robin Hankin (RH) wrote: thanks for this clarification Uwe Could I

Re: [Rd] Google Summer of Code 2009

2009-02-19 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 20 February 2009 at 12:06, Friedrich Leisch wrote: | On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:52:19 -0600, | Dirk Eddelbuettel (DE) wrote: | |[ Cool how nobody cared about Fritz' request not to post ideas yet :) ] | | Well, I kind of expected that ;-) | | See also below. | |[ I broadly share

Re: [Rd] Google Summer of Code 2009

2009-02-19 Thread Friedrich Leisch
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:25:35 -0600, Dirk Eddelbuettel (DE) wrote: On 20 February 2009 at 12:06, Friedrich Leisch wrote: | On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:52:19 -0600, | Dirk Eddelbuettel (DE) wrote: | |[ Cool how nobody cared about Fritz' request not to post ideas yet :) ] |

Re: [Rd] [R] How to unload a dll loaded via library.dynam()?

2009-02-19 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
[Moved to R-devel as suggested.] library.dynam.unload() does work if the OS is cooperative. And if you have your package set up correctly and unload the namespace (and not just detach the package if there is a namespace) then the shared object/DLL will be unloaded. There are examples in

Re: [Rd] Interactive Graphics in R [Was: Google Summer of Code 2009]

2009-02-19 Thread Yihui Xie
Hi Simon, Yes I agree with you on the definition of IG (selection, data query, ...), but I only meant to respond to Oleg's R lacks functionality that would allow displaying of interactive plots with two distinct functionalities: zooming and panning. I thought that was just a problem to adjust the

Re: [Rd] plot.lm: Cook's distance label can overplot point labels

2009-02-19 Thread John Maindonald
Actually, the contours and the smooth are currently printed with col=2. This prints satisfactorily in grayscale.Colours (orange and darkred as well as col=2) are also used in termplot. Does the stricture against colour extend to grayscale? Does it apply to lines as well as text?

Re: [Rd] Inaccurate result for 0. (PR#13538)

2009-02-19 Thread Gábor Csárdi
Hmmm, the favorite. http://cran.r-project.org/doc/FAQ/R-FAQ.html#Why-doesn_0027t-R-think-these-numbers-are-equal_003f G. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:15 PM, lengyel...@gmail.com wrote: Full_Name: Attila Lengyel Version: 2.8.0 OS: WinXP Submission from: (NULL) (81.182.224.160)

Re: [Rd] Inaccurate result for 0. (PR#13538)

2009-02-19 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
FAQ 7.31 On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, lengyel...@gmail.com wrote: Full_Name: Attila Lengyel Version: 2.8.0 OS: WinXP Submission from: (NULL) (81.182.224.160) -0.3+0.1+0.1+0.1 [1] 2.775558e-17 __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list

Re: [Rd] Inaccurate result for 0. (PR#13538)

2009-02-19 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 18/02/2009 3:15 PM, lengyel...@gmail.com wrote: Full_Name: Attila Lengyel Version: 2.8.0 OS: WinXP Submission from: (NULL) (81.182.224.160) -0.3+0.1+0.1+0.1 [1] 2.775558e-17 This is not a bug, it's FAQ 7.31. Duncan Murdoch __

Re: [Rd] Inaccurate result for 0. (PR#13538)

2009-02-19 Thread ligges
Please read documentation and how to submit busg before you submit bugs to the bug repository. See FAQ Why doesn't R think these numbers are equal?. Uwe Ligges lengyel...@gmail.com wrote: Full_Name: Attila Lengyel Version: 2.8.0 OS: WinXP Submission from: (NULL) (81.182.224.160)

[Rd] vignette compilation times

2009-02-19 Thread Robin Hankin
Dear All I am preparing a number of vignettes that require a very long time to process with Sweave. The longest one takes 10 hours. I love the weaver package! Is a package that includes such a computationally intensive vignette acceptable on CRAN? Are there any guidelines here? --

Re: [Rd] Google Summer of Code 2009

2009-02-19 Thread Sklyar, Oleg (London)
Two ideas: 1) A library for interactive plots in R R lacks functionality that would allow displaying of interactive plots with two distinct functionalities: zooming and panning. This functionality is extremely important for the analysis of large, high frequency, data sets spanning over large

Re: [Rd] Inaccurate result for 0. (PR#13538)

2009-02-19 Thread Wacek Kusnierczyk
Gábor Csárdi wrote: Hmmm, the favorite. http://cran.r-project.org/doc/FAQ/R-FAQ.html#Why-doesn_0027t-R-think-these-numbers-are-equal_003f hmm, an interesting quote: To quote from “The Elements of Programming Style” by Kernighan and Plauger: /10.0 times 0.1 is hardly ever 1.0/. so

Re: [Rd] vignette compilation times

2009-02-19 Thread Robin Hankin
thanks for this clarification Uwe Could I include the r_env_cache/ directory in the package and then assume that the CRAN checks use Sweave( , driver=weaver()) in which case the process takes about 10 seconds? rksh Uwe Ligges wrote: Robin Hankin wrote: Dear All I am preparing a

Re: [Rd] vignette compilation times

2009-02-19 Thread Uwe Ligges
Robin Hankin wrote: Dear All I am preparing a number of vignettes that require a very long time to process with Sweave. The longest one takes 10 hours. I love the weaver package! Is a package that includes such a computationally intensive vignette acceptable on CRAN? Are there any

Re: [Rd] plot.lm: Cook's distance label can overplot point labels

2009-02-19 Thread John Fox
Dear John and Brian, My point about colour-blindness was partly tongue-in-cheek, but I think that it's a bad choice to have the second and third colours in the default palette as red and green. Regards, John -Original Message- From: John Maindonald

[Rd] cpu bound cases

2009-02-19 Thread Rubin, Norman
I'm considering some things AMD could do to accelerate R using GPU processors. In an internal discussion I was asked Are there interesting R computations which are currently cpu bound? I'm sure there are lots but I'd like to be able to name some real world cases. Does any one know of some

Re: [Rd] Google Summer of Code 2009

2009-02-19 Thread Sklyar, Oleg (London)
Simon, I would not like to take it offline as I disagree with your points and think it is fair to let other users know why. To make it clear first, I am most interested in 2D, not 3D plots, and rgobbi is not a good enough solution, unfortunately. 1) I spent loads of time looking for good, if

Re: [Rd] Google Summer of Code 2009

2009-02-19 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Sklyar, Oleg (London) oskl...@maninvestments.com wrote: I do think there is a need for an interactive graphics package for R. There are also the GTK-based playwith, and latticist; unsure though whether they fit your requirements. Liviu -- Do you know how to

Re: [Rd] Google Summer of Code 2009

2009-02-19 Thread Sklyar, Oleg (London)
Thanks for pointing out. playwith looks quite interesting Dr Oleg Sklyar Research Technologist AHL / Man Investments Ltd +44 (0)20 7144 3107 oskl...@maninvestments.com -Original Message- From: Liviu Andronic [mailto:landronim...@gmail.com] Sent: 19 February 2009 15:11 To: Sklyar,

Re: [Rd] Google Summer of Code 2009

2009-02-19 Thread Yihui Xie
Well, for the first idea, isn't it easy enough to fulfill zooming or panning using getGraphicsEvent() in the grDevices package? For example (using keys +/-/Left/Right/Up/Down/* to zoom and pan): ## # a demo for zooming and panning in

Re: [Rd] Google Summer of Code 2009

2009-02-19 Thread Sklyar, Oleg (London)
Dear Yihui, I am sure there are many possibilities available, but I am not looking for a hack and rather for a versatile high-quality solution. It solution should be fast, reliable and developed to a high standard. Moreover, on my X11 RHEL5 x86_64 I get the following: