Re: [Rd] removeSource() vs. function literals

2023-04-05 Thread Ivan Krylov
On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 08:49:53 +0200
Lionel Henry  wrote:

> If you can afford a dependency on rlang, `rlang::zap_srcref()` deals
> with this. It's recursive over expression vectors, calls (including
> calls to `function` and their hidden srcref arg), and function
> objects.

Thanks for the suggestion! I hope that the source reference argument in
the `function` calls is the last way a source reference could sneak by
in an expression obtained using substitute().

> It's implemented in C for efficiency as we found it to be a
> bottleneck in some applications (IIRC caching). I'd be happy to
> upstream this in base if R core is interested.

A removeSource() that handles all the corner cases would be a nice
improvement.

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Re: [Rd] removeSource() vs. function literals

2023-04-05 Thread Ivan Krylov
Thanks for the comments and sorry I didn't reply sooner!

On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 12:38:24 -0400
Duncan Murdoch  wrote:

> You'd need to recurse through all expressions in the object.  Some of
> those expressions might be environments, so your changes could leak
> out of the function you're working on.

In my efforts to get arbitrary objects to hash consistently, I already
walk them recursively, but I do stop at environments. (In theory, it
could be possible to create mock environments with the same
relationships between each other and then "fix up" and hash their
contents, but it's hard to do right. Imagine environments e1 and e2
where e1$other <- e2 and e2$other <- e1.)

I think that removeSource() already walks language objects recursively,
it just doesn't remove source references from unevaluated function
expressions.

> Things are simpler if you know the expression is the unmodified
> result of parsing source code, but if you know that, wouldn't you
> usually be able to control things by setting keep.source = FALSE?

I receive the expression object from substitute(). The idea is to hash
the expression, locate and hash its dependencies and then see if
there's already a file named like the resulting hash. In theory, the
user could be constructing elaborate scary-looking expressions and then
calling my function on them, but I think I can be reasonably certain I
get the calls straight from the parser. Unfortunately, this doesn't put
me in a position to be controlling options(keep.source=...).

> Maybe a workable solution is something like parse(deparse(expr,
> control = "exact"), keep.source = FALSE).

Thanks for this idea! At some point I was considering hashing text
representations of objects, but then I got serialize()-hashing working
and forgot about it.

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Re: [Rd] removeSource() vs. function literals

2023-03-31 Thread Dénes Tóth



On 3/31/23 08:49, Lionel Henry via R-devel wrote:

If you can afford a dependency on rlang, `rlang::zap_srcref()` deals
with this. It's recursive over expression vectors, calls (including
calls to `function` and their hidden srcref arg), and function
objects. It's implemented in C for efficiency as we found it to be a
bottleneck in some applications (IIRC caching). I'd be happy to
upstream this in base if R core is interested.


That would be very helpful. When having to implement caching, I have 
been hit by this issue several times in the past, too (before 
rlang::zap_srcref() existed).


Regards,
Denes





Best,
Lionel


On 3/30/23, Duncan Murdoch  wrote:

On 30/03/2023 10:32 a.m., Ivan Krylov wrote:

Dear R-devel,

In a package of mine, I use removeSource on expression objects in order
to make expressions that are semantically the same serialize to the
same byte sequences:
https://github.com/cran/depcache/blob/854d68a/R/fixup.R#L8-L34

Today I learned that expressions containing function definitions also
contain the source references for the functions, not as an attribute,
but as a separate argument to the `function` call:

str(quote(function() NULL)[[4]])
# 'srcref' int [1:8] 1 11 1 25 11 25 1 1
# - attr(*, "srcfile")=Classes 'srcfilecopy', 'srcfile'
#   

This means that removeSource() on an expression that would define a
function when evaluated doesn't actually remove the source reference
from the object.

Do you think it would be appropriate to teach removeSource() to remove
such source references? What could be a good way to implement that?
if (is.call(fn) && identical(fn[[1]], 'function')) fn[[4]] <- NULL
sounds too arbitrary. if (inherits(fn, 'srcref')) return(NULL) sounds
too broad.



I don't think there's a simple way to do that.  Functions can define
functions within themselves.  If you're talking about code that was
constructed by messing with language objects, it could contain both
function objects and calls to `function` to construct them.  You'd need
to recurse through all expressions in the object.  Some of those
expressions might be environments, so your changes could leak out of the
function you're working on.

Things are simpler if you know the expression is the unmodified result
of parsing source code, but if you know that, wouldn't you usually be
able to control things by setting keep.source = FALSE?

Maybe a workable solution is something like parse(deparse(expr, control
= "exact"), keep.source = FALSE).  Wouldn't work on environments or
various exotic types, but would probably warn you if it wasn't working.

Duncan Murdoch

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Re: [Rd] removeSource() vs. function literals

2023-03-31 Thread Lionel Henry via R-devel
If you can afford a dependency on rlang, `rlang::zap_srcref()` deals
with this. It's recursive over expression vectors, calls (including
calls to `function` and their hidden srcref arg), and function
objects. It's implemented in C for efficiency as we found it to be a
bottleneck in some applications (IIRC caching). I'd be happy to
upstream this in base if R core is interested.

Best,
Lionel


On 3/30/23, Duncan Murdoch  wrote:
> On 30/03/2023 10:32 a.m., Ivan Krylov wrote:
>> Dear R-devel,
>>
>> In a package of mine, I use removeSource on expression objects in order
>> to make expressions that are semantically the same serialize to the
>> same byte sequences:
>> https://github.com/cran/depcache/blob/854d68a/R/fixup.R#L8-L34
>>
>> Today I learned that expressions containing function definitions also
>> contain the source references for the functions, not as an attribute,
>> but as a separate argument to the `function` call:
>>
>> str(quote(function() NULL)[[4]])
>> # 'srcref' int [1:8] 1 11 1 25 11 25 1 1
>> # - attr(*, "srcfile")=Classes 'srcfilecopy', 'srcfile'
>> #   
>>
>> This means that removeSource() on an expression that would define a
>> function when evaluated doesn't actually remove the source reference
>> from the object.
>>
>> Do you think it would be appropriate to teach removeSource() to remove
>> such source references? What could be a good way to implement that?
>> if (is.call(fn) && identical(fn[[1]], 'function')) fn[[4]] <- NULL
>> sounds too arbitrary. if (inherits(fn, 'srcref')) return(NULL) sounds
>> too broad.
>>
>
> I don't think there's a simple way to do that.  Functions can define
> functions within themselves.  If you're talking about code that was
> constructed by messing with language objects, it could contain both
> function objects and calls to `function` to construct them.  You'd need
> to recurse through all expressions in the object.  Some of those
> expressions might be environments, so your changes could leak out of the
> function you're working on.
>
> Things are simpler if you know the expression is the unmodified result
> of parsing source code, but if you know that, wouldn't you usually be
> able to control things by setting keep.source = FALSE?
>
> Maybe a workable solution is something like parse(deparse(expr, control
> = "exact"), keep.source = FALSE).  Wouldn't work on environments or
> various exotic types, but would probably warn you if it wasn't working.
>
> Duncan Murdoch
>
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Re: [Rd] removeSource() vs. function literals

2023-03-30 Thread Duncan Murdoch

On 30/03/2023 10:32 a.m., Ivan Krylov wrote:

Dear R-devel,

In a package of mine, I use removeSource on expression objects in order
to make expressions that are semantically the same serialize to the
same byte sequences:
https://github.com/cran/depcache/blob/854d68a/R/fixup.R#L8-L34

Today I learned that expressions containing function definitions also
contain the source references for the functions, not as an attribute,
but as a separate argument to the `function` call:

str(quote(function() NULL)[[4]])
# 'srcref' int [1:8] 1 11 1 25 11 25 1 1
# - attr(*, "srcfile")=Classes 'srcfilecopy', 'srcfile'
#   

This means that removeSource() on an expression that would define a
function when evaluated doesn't actually remove the source reference
from the object.

Do you think it would be appropriate to teach removeSource() to remove
such source references? What could be a good way to implement that?
if (is.call(fn) && identical(fn[[1]], 'function')) fn[[4]] <- NULL
sounds too arbitrary. if (inherits(fn, 'srcref')) return(NULL) sounds
too broad.



I don't think there's a simple way to do that.  Functions can define 
functions within themselves.  If you're talking about code that was 
constructed by messing with language objects, it could contain both 
function objects and calls to `function` to construct them.  You'd need 
to recurse through all expressions in the object.  Some of those 
expressions might be environments, so your changes could leak out of the 
function you're working on.


Things are simpler if you know the expression is the unmodified result 
of parsing source code, but if you know that, wouldn't you usually be 
able to control things by setting keep.source = FALSE?


Maybe a workable solution is something like parse(deparse(expr, control 
= "exact"), keep.source = FALSE).  Wouldn't work on environments or 
various exotic types, but would probably warn you if it wasn't working.


Duncan Murdoch

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