Re: [R] 'R' Software Output Plagiarism

2015-09-24 Thread peter dalgaard
On 23 Sep 2015, at 02:33 , Duncan Murdoch wrote: > I don't see why this puzzles you. A simple explanation is that Urkund > is incompetent. That much I figured. What I was puzzled about was _how_ it was being incompetent. Also how it could be so in a way that

Re: [R] 'R' Software Output Plagiarism

2015-09-24 Thread Vik Rubenfeld
Your professor should immediately recognize that the quoted code is standard regression input/output and that the Urkund results in this case are without merit. > On Sep 22, 2015, at 7:27 AM, BARRETT, Oliver wrote: > > > Dear 'R' community support, > > > I am a

Re: [R] 'R' Software Output Plagiarism

2015-09-24 Thread John Kane
> -Original Message- > From: pda...@gmail.com > Sent: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 11:41:19 +0200 > To: murdoch.dun...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [R] 'R' Software Output Plagiarism > > > On 23 Sep 2015, at 02:33 , Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.dun...@gmail.com> > wrote: &

Re: [R] 'R' Software Output Plagiarism

2015-09-22 Thread peter dalgaard
Marc, I don't think Copyright/Intellectual property issues factor into this. Urkund and similar tools are to my knowledge entirely about plagiarism. So the issue would seem to be that the R output is considered identical or nearly indentical to R output in other published orotherwise

Re: [R] 'R' Software Output Plagiarism

2015-09-22 Thread Marc Schwartz
Hi, With the usual caveat that I Am Not A Lawyerand that I am not speaking on behalf of any organization... My guess is that they are claiming that the output of R, simply being copied and pasted verbatim into your thesis constitutes the use of copyrighted output from the software. It is

Re: [R] 'R' Software Output Plagiarism

2015-09-22 Thread John Kane
Very good point about the referencing. I wonder if this is happening to users of Stata or SAS as well? John Kane Kingston ON Canada > -Original Message- > From: marc_schwa...@me.com > Sent: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 11:24:13 -0500 > To: bgunter.4...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [

Re: [R] 'R' Software Output Plagiarism

2015-09-22 Thread John Kane
e Kingston ON Canada > -Original Message- > From: oliver.barr...@skema.edu > Sent: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 14:27:03 + > To: r-help@r-project.org > Subject: [R] 'R' Software Output Plagiarism > > > Dear 'R' community support, > > > I am a student at Skema busin

Re: [R] 'R' Software Output Plagiarism

2015-09-22 Thread Mitchell Maltenfort
Isn't plagiarism detection based on overlaps with sentence structure? That way, it would catch plagiarism if someone simply did a find-and-replace. But that would also catch regressions with the same output format. How long was the original thesis? If 25% of it was all regression output, sounds

Re: [R] 'R' Software Output Plagiarism

2015-09-22 Thread Marc Schwartz
Peter, Great distinction. I was leaning in the direction that the "look and feel" of the output (standard wording, table structure, column headings, significance stars and so forth in the output) is similar to whatever Urkund is using as the basis for the comparison and less so on an exact

Re: [R] 'R' Software Output Plagiarism

2015-09-22 Thread BARRETT, Oliver
Gunter; BARRETT, Oliver; R-help Subject: Re: [R] 'R' Software Output Plagiarism Peter, Great distinction. I was leaning in the direction that the "look and feel" of the output (standard wording, table structure, column headings, significance stars and so forth in the output) is similar to

Re: [R] 'R' Software Output Plagiarism

2015-09-22 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 22/09/2015 4:06 PM, peter dalgaard wrote: > Marc, > > I don't think Copyright/Intellectual property issues factor into this. Urkund > and similar tools are to my knowledge entirely about plagiarism. So the issue > would seem to be that the R output is considered identical or nearly >

[R] 'R' Software Output Plagiarism

2015-09-22 Thread BARRETT, Oliver
Dear 'R' community support, I am a student at Skema business school and I have recently submitted my MSc thesis/dissertation. This has been passed on to an external plagiarism service provider, Urkund, who have scanned my document and returned a plagiarism report to my professor having

Re: [R] 'R' Software Output Plagiarism

2015-09-22 Thread Bert Gunter
1. It is highly unlikely that we could be of help (unless someone else has experienced this and knows what happened). You will have to contact the Urkund people and ask them why their algorithms raised the flags. 2. But of course, the regression methodology is not "your own" -- it's just a