On 11/25/13 09:04, Rich Shepard wrote:
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013, Yihui Xie wrote:
Mailing lists are good for a smaller group of people, and especially
good when more focused on discussions on development (including bug
reports). The better place for questions is a web forum.
I disagree. Mail
StackOverflow has certainly its merits, although I miss a bit the good ol'
Oxford sarcasm gems you find in this list.
This said : Beginner's list. Bad, bad idea. First rule in my classes is:
RTFI (Read The Fucking Internetzz). Anybody using R should be able to do a
basic Google search. A
I do not agree with a separate beginner's list. But I do stand with moving
to stackoverflow, mainly because of the easier google search than current
mailing list. It could make it more accessible.
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:07 AM, John Sorkin jsor...@grecc.umaryland.eduwrote:
Mailing list vs.
If you want a vision of an R-beginners list, it is a boot stamping
ITS IN THE DOCUMENTATION into a newbies face - forever.
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/g/georgeorwe159438.html
slight exaggeration perhaps, but most R-beginners would benefit from
reading a bit more documentation and
I do not see how it can be illegal to download and duplicate the
posts, since all the content is licensed under CC BY-SA. I might have
missed something there: http://stackexchange.com/legal If that is
really the case, I think I will have to reconsider if I should use it
any more.
I'm not a
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To: John Sorkin
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Subject: Re: [R] Should there be an R-beginners list?
I
On 25/11/2013 8:47 AM, Hadley Wickham wrote:
I do not see how it can be illegal to download and duplicate the
posts, since all the content is licensed under CC BY-SA. I might have
missed something there: http://stackexchange.com/legal If that is
really the case, I think I will have to
On Nov 25, 2013, at 7:56 AM, PIKAL Petr petr.pi...@precheza.cz wrote:
Hi
I doubt if people start to search answers if they often do not search them in
help pages and documentation provided.
I must agree with Duncan that if Stackoverflow was far more better than this
help list most
Here's a similar plot for stackoverflow:
http://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/150130/r-questions-and-answers-per-year#graph
and one broken down by month
http://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/150129/r-questions-and-answers-per-month#graph
Hadley
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at
Joran (on StackOverflow chat, funnily enough) has just pointed us to this:
http://www.win.tue.nl/~bvasiles/papers/cscw14.pdf How Social QA
Sites are Changing Knowledge Sharing
in Open Source Software Communities
which includes a graph of postings to R-help and questions tagged
'[r]' on
Oops, I misunderstood the database schema, and that only includes
_questions_ tagged R, not the corresponding answers.
Hadley
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Hadley Wickham h.wick...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's a similar plot for stackoverflow:
On 13-11-25 06:00 AM, r-help-requ...@r-project.org wrote:
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 13:04:43 -0600
From: Yihui Xiex...@yihui.name
To: Bert Guntergunter.ber...@gene.com
Cc:r-help@r-project.org r-help@r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R] Should there be an R-beginners list?
Message-ID:
CANROs4d
is
suggesting it be shut down.
I'll also point out that it's much easier to filter SO (by topic and by
score) than r-help.
Carl, the DataMungerGuru-accolyte
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Folks:
If this has been previously discussed and settled, please say so and
refer me to the discussion. If you believe this to be inappropriate or
otherwise frivolous, also please say so, as I do not wish to waste
your time or this space.
I write as a long time reader and sometimes contributor
there be an
R-beginners list?)
Last but not least, I probably need to clarify that I benefited a lot
from the mailing lists in the past, and I truly appreciate it. I wrote
this with the future in mind, not the past. The past was good, and the
future can be better.
Regards,
Yihui
--
Yihui Xie xieyi
lists to SO.
Sorry about the generalization of the original topic, but I hate using
a new title Should there be R mailing lists? (was: Should there be an
R-beginners list?)
Last but not least, I probably need to clarify that I benefited a lot
from the mailing lists in the past, and I truly
I do not see how it can be illegal to download and duplicate the
posts, since all the content is licensed under CC BY-SA. I might have
missed something there: http://stackexchange.com/legal If that is
really the case, I think I will have to reconsider if I should use it
any more.
Regards,
Yihui
On 13-11-24 4:13 PM, Yihui Xie wrote:
I do not see how it can be illegal to download and duplicate the
posts, since all the content is licensed under CC BY-SA. I might have
missed something there: http://stackexchange.com/legal If that is
really the case, I think I will have to reconsider if I
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013, Bert Gunter wrote:
Would it be useful, then, to establish an R-beginners list specifically to
absorb this traffic and free up R-help from what I would say was its
original intent, to provide a forum for serious, more dedicated R users
(Again, no criticism is intended here)?
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013, Yihui Xie wrote:
Mailing lists are good for a smaller group of people, and especially
good when more focused on discussions on development (including bug
reports). The better place for questions is a web forum.
I disagree. Mail lists push messages to subscribers while
Hi,
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Duncan Murdoch
murdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote:
On 13-11-24 4:13 PM, Yihui Xie wrote:
I do not see how it can be illegal to download and duplicate the
posts, since all the content is licensed under CC BY-SA. I might have
missed something there:
On 13-11-24 5:42 PM, Steve Lianoglou wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Duncan Murdoch
murdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote:
On 13-11-24 4:13 PM, Yihui Xie wrote:
I do not see how it can be illegal to download and duplicate the
posts, since all the content is licensed under CC BY-SA. I
On 11/24/2013 12:04 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013, Yihui Xie wrote:
Mailing lists are good for a smaller group of people, and especially
good when more focused on discussions on development (including bug
reports). The better place for questions is a web forum.
I disagree.
Mailing list vs. stack overflow, I have no opinion, but
beginners list NO! I was a beginner at one time and the
mailing list worked just fine. I see no reason to divide our
efforts across two lists (be they mailing lists or stack overflow).
John
John David Sorkin M.D., Ph.D.
Professor of
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