Re: [R] t test problem?

2004-09-23 Thread Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
On Wednesday 22 September 2004 13:07, Ted Harding wrote: On 22-Sep-04 kan Liu wrote: Hi, Many thanks for your helpful comments and suggestions. The attached are the data in both log10 scale and original scale. It would be very grateful if you could suggest which version of test should be

Re: [R] t test problem?

2004-09-22 Thread Dimitris Rizopoulos
Hi Liu, before applying a t-test (or any test) you should first check if the assumptions of the test are supported by your data, i.e., in a t-test x and y must be normally distributed. I hope it helps. Best, Dimitris Dimitris Rizopoulos Ph.D. Student Biostatistical Centre School of Public

Re: [R] t test problem?

2004-09-22 Thread Andrew Robinson
Hi Dimitris, you are describing a more stringent requirement than the t-test actually requires. It's the sampling distribution of the mean that should be normal, and this condition is addressed by the Central Limit Theorem. Whether or not the CLT can be invoked depends on numerous factors,

Re: [R] t test problem?

2004-09-22 Thread kan Liu
Hi, Many thanks for your helpful comments and suggestions. The attached are the data in both log10 scale and original scale. It would be very grateful if you could suggest which version of test should be used. By the way, how to check whether the variation is additive (natural scale) or

Re: [R] t test problem?

2004-09-22 Thread Andrew Robinson
Hi, Many thanks for your helpful comments and suggestions. You're welcome. The attached are the data in both log10 scale and original scale. It would be very grateful if you could suggest which version of test should be used. I feel that it would be inappropriate. It depends on the origin

RE: [R] t test problem?

2004-09-22 Thread Wayne Jones
120544.9 107909.0 -Original Message- From: kan Liu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2004 10:22 To: Andrew Robinson; Dimitris Rizopoulos Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [R] t test problem? Hi, Many thanks for your helpful comments and suggestions. The attached

Re: [R] t test problem?

2004-09-22 Thread Ted Harding
On 22-Sep-04 kan Liu wrote: Hi, Many thanks for your helpful comments and suggestions. The attached are the data in both log10 scale and original scale. It would be very grateful if you could suggest which version of test should be used. By the way, how to check whether the variation is

RE: [R] t test problem?

2004-09-22 Thread kan Liu
-Original Message- From: kan Liu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2004 10:22 To: Andrew Robinson; Dimitris Rizopoulos Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [R] t test problem? Hi, Many thanks for your helpful comments and suggestions. The attached are the data in both log10 scale

Re: [R] t-test problem

2004-09-22 Thread Cliff Lunneborg
Kan Liu wrote: Hello, I got two sets of data x=(124738, 128233, 85901, 33806, ...) y=(25292, 21877, 45498, 63973, ) When I did a t test, I got two tail p-value = 0.117, which is not significantly different. If I changed x, y to log scale, and re-do the t test, I got two tail p-value