Re: [R-sig-eco] quantifying directed dependence of environmental factors

2013-03-08 Thread Ivailo
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Sarah Goslee sarah.gos...@gmail.com wrote:
...
 There's a fair bit of literature on Mantel-based path analysis, and
 other similar dissimilarity-based approaches. SEM can be used with
 composition as well, although not (I think) with the intermediate step
 of calculating dissimilarities.

 Besides journal articles employing those techniques, I like both of these:

 J. B. Grace, Structural Equation Modeling and Natural Systems,
 Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, UK, 2006.

 B. Shipley, Cause and Correlation in Biology: A User’s Guide to Path
 Analysis, Structural Equations and Causal Inference, Cambridge
 University Press, Cambridge, UK, 2000.

I recently stumbled on a great book on path modelling using PLS (with
R) that is freely downloadable at http://is.gd/BxqIEL

Ivailo
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Re: [R-sig-eco] quantifying directed dependence of environmental factors

2013-03-08 Thread Jay Kerns
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote:
 On Thu, 7 Mar 2013, Philippi, Tom wrote:

 I would look at packages bio.infer, paltran, fossil, and analogue, and
 search to see if anyone has pushed them in the direction you want to go.


   bio.infer is based on the EPA's EMAP-West (Environmental Monitoring and
 Analysis Program for the western states) and uses benthic macroinvertebrates
 and fish with selected water chemistry parameters. It uses the ITIS
 (International Taxonomic Identification System) to provide consistency in
 naming taxa to the lowest reasonable level.

   Conceptually, one could assemble equivalent dataframes for diatom taxa and
 environmental conditions, but I don't know if ITIS has plants/algae in the
 system; problably does. However, the biota-environments relationships would
 be based on current conditions and whether this would be valid for sediment
 core data would need to be judged by a limnologist, not a stream ecologist
 like me.

 Rich


Rich: thank you.  I am not sure about the ITIS, but maybe my colleague
does.  I will ask him.

Thanks again.
Jay

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Re: [R-sig-eco] quantifying directed dependence of environmental factors

2013-03-08 Thread Jay Kerns
 I recently stumbled on a great book on path modelling using PLS (with
 R) that is freely downloadable at http://is.gd/BxqIEL

 Ivailo
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Ivailo: very cool.  Thank you.

Jay

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