Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-03 Thread Berend Hasselman
Simon, I have tested an R-4.0.0 (i.e. R version 4.0.0 alpha (2020-04-01 r78130) with my two packages (nleqslv and geigen) and all my private tests. I have not found any problems with checking and testing these packages. (I used Apple clang and Coudert's gfortran 8.2) The only issue I have

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-02 Thread Simon Urbanek
Yes, to a degree - but is'a bit counter-intuitive. Unfortunately, the 4.0 installer won't keep 3.6 (not sure why, need to investigate), but vice-versa. So you have to install 4.0.0 alpha and then 3.6.3. Alternatively, you can move /Library/Frameworks/R.framework aside and then install 4.0.0

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-02 Thread Patrick Schratz
R versions on macOS are installed next to each other - you just need to “switch” between them during initialization. In the end R CMD * will use the R interpreter that is first in your $PATH. https://rud.is/rswitch/ helps - but you can also do so without by writing custom CLI wrappers. On 2.

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-02 Thread Spencer Graves
  Is there a procedure for dual install, e.g., so I could run "R4 CMD check", etc.?   Please excuse if this has already been answered.   Thanks,   Spencer Graves On 2020-04-02 02:50, Rainer M Krug wrote: On 1 Apr 2020, at 16:07, Patrick Schratz wrote: The same goes

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-02 Thread Rainer M Krug
> On 1 Apr 2020, at 16:07, Patrick Schratz wrote: > > The same goes here regarding support. > > I am (co-)maintaining a package on ropensci focusing on provider-agnostic CI > approaches for R (tic) and have quite some experience with all the little > culprits there. > > Since you

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-01 Thread Balamuta, James Joseph
Simon, I sent a PR that updates the Travis CI to use the R 4.0.0 branch as R-devel and new gfortran binaries. https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-build/pull/1885 I'm waiting to hear back from the community maintainers if they are interested in pulling in binaries from

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-01 Thread Balamuta, James Joseph
Simon, Thank you for the quick response! > 1. correct, there was too much trouble in this. But please feel free to > start a new thread about this here if you have strong opinions. Best news leading into R 4.0.0. > 2. we're talking about the oldest system that our binaries will run on, so

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-01 Thread Simon Urbanek
Thanks! Now fixed. Simon > On 2/04/2020, at 4:08 AM, Bob Rudis wrote: > > Hey Simon! > > At the bottom of https://mac.r-project.org/libs-4/ is: > >curl -O > http://mac.R_project.org/libs-4/pkgconfig-0.28-darwin.17-x86_64.tar.gz > > While most folks will figure it out, it should be: >

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-01 Thread Simon Urbanek
Patrick, Bob et al , thanks! Please start a new thread here about CI builds - I'm open to whatever the best or most popular options are. Thanks, Simon > On 2/04/2020, at 3:07 AM, Patrick Schratz wrote: > > The same goes here regarding support. > > I am (co-)maintaining a package on

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-01 Thread Simon Urbanek
JJB, 1. correct, there was too much trouble in this. But please feel free to start a new thread about this here if you have strong opinions. 2. we're talking about the oldest system that our binaries will run on, so 10.13 is actually very aggressive. There is still a very significant portion

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-01 Thread Simon Urbanek
Patrick, firstly, please don't post such things - they are often wrong (as are parts of what you included it this e-mail) and it's impossible for us to track all blogs that have incorrect advice. Unfortunately, a lot of the issues we see out there are due to people finding bad advice and using

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-01 Thread Hervé Pagès
I see bin/macosx/contrib/4.0/ now (e.g. https://cran.r-project.org/bin/macosx/contrib/4.0/). Thanks! H. On 4/1/20 00:37, Simon Urbanek wrote: Hervé, On 1/04/2020, at 6:19 PM, Hervé Pagès wrote: Thanks Simon. A couple of days ago we've started to use the R 4.0.0 alpha build from

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-01 Thread Bob Rudis
Hey Simon! At the bottom of https://mac.r-project.org/libs-4/ is: curl -O http://mac.R_project.org/libs-4/pkgconfig-0.28-darwin.17-x86_64.tar.gz While most folks will figure it out, it should be: curl -O http://mac.R-project.org/libs-4/pkgconfig-0.28-darwin.17-x86_64.tar.gz (dash

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-01 Thread Göran Broström
Hello JJB, Den 2020-04-01 kl. 15:30, skrev Balamuta, James Joseph: Simon, Thanks for the overview! A few quick questions: 1. Compiler-wise, the external clang compiler requirement was removed and, so, there is no guarantee of OpenMP on macOS again? 2. Why was 10.13 chosen as the oldest

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-01 Thread Patrick Schratz
The same goes here regarding support. I am (co-)maintaining a package on ropensci focusing on provider-agnostic CI approaches for R (tic) and have quite some experience with all the little culprits there. Since you mentioned Travis: Be aware that the R community is (slowly but actively)

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-01 Thread Bob Rudis
I shall pile on with an additional offer of assistance, Simon and a huge #ty for this and all the work you do. > On Apr 1, 2020, at 09:30, Balamuta, James Joseph > wrote: > > Simon, > > Thanks for the overview! A few quick questions: > > 1. Compiler-wise, the external clang compiler

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-01 Thread Balamuta, James Joseph
Simon, Thanks for the overview! A few quick questions: 1. Compiler-wise, the external clang compiler requirement was removed and, so, there is no guarantee of OpenMP on macOS again? 2. Why was 10.13 chosen as the oldest system instead of 10.14 given the new push for increased security by

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-01 Thread Patrick Schratz
Thanks Simon, This simplifies things a lot and clears up the process. While the instructions on https://mac.r-project.org/ are more clear now I think there is still simplification needed for the install process and custom modifications that are needed. This not only applies to the dev page but

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-04-01 Thread Simon Urbanek
Hervé, > On 1/04/2020, at 6:19 PM, Hervé Pagès wrote: > > Thanks Simon. A couple of days ago we've started to use the R 4.0.0 alpha > build from https://mac.r-project.org/ for the Bioconductor build system. > Bioconductor packages depend on thousands of CRAN packages and one thing that >

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Please test R 4.0.0 pre-releases!

2020-03-31 Thread Hervé Pagès
Thanks Simon. A couple of days ago we've started to use the R 4.0.0 alpha build from https://mac.r-project.org/ for the Bioconductor build system. Bioconductor packages depend on thousands of CRAN packages and one thing that makes it hard for us and for our users to build/check Bioconductor