Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

I think I agree with pretty much everything you’ve written here. I will note that your problem with sending email to the mailing list from a different address *is* one I’ve experienced, many hundreds of times. I think your #1 and your #5 is more or less what blog.racket-lang.org is. I see

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

First reason for ignoring this message: It's an html-only post on a text mailing list. -- hendrik On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 08:06:01AM -0500, Etan Wexler wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

On 11/22/2021 11:19 AM, Philip McGrath wrote: It appears that some Gmail spam filter has decided that racket-users@googlegroups.com is a suspicious email address. It seems like roughly half of the legitimate traffic on the list is never reaching me and being marked as spam (at one of two or

Re: [racket-users] Racket Discourse

Hi Sage, It looks like the same text, and has the same last updated date, as the Haskell Discourse TOS. I think it is the default text provided by Discourse for the free hosting. I don't think anyone has the time or expertise to rewrite it, but I'm sure specific items could be looked at if they

Re: [racket-users] Racket Discourse

Greetings. On 22 Nov 2021, at 4:24, Sage Gerard wrote: > But I have to ask, who wrote the ToS? Who is "the company" in its > > context? Discord? One of the Racket team's universities? A sponsor? I'm not sure who 'the company' is, either, but they appear to be called 'company_name'

the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for RacketThe stewards of Racket have decided that it’s time to give up on the mailing list (that is, racket-users, to which this message is a contribution). The stewards of Racket have designated another forum

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

If anyone here still has demand for a vanilla email list, please reach out to me. On 11/22/21 9:40 AM, David Storrs wrote: > That's sudden. > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 8:06 AM Etan Wexler wrote: > >> The stewards of [Racket](https://racket-lang.org/) have decided that it’s >> time to give up

Re: [racket-users] Racket Discourse

Gotcha, thanks. As long as we were warned! I thought I remembered Sam mentioning something along the lines of an "AWS grant," but my memory is unreliable here. On 11/22/21 9:57 AM, John Clements wrote: > Good questions: > > 1) Yes, Sam mentioned the discourse group at RacketCon, and there was

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

Am Montag, 22. November 2021, 16:16:35 CET schrieb Jens Axel Søgaard: > There are no plans of closing the mailing list. > > Things take time. > > Different forums for communication have different strengths. Exactly > Discourse might attract an audience that is unfamiliar to mailing lists. >

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

I’m … super confused by this message. Did I miss something? I feel like this message has a subtext that I’m completely missing. John > On Nov 22, 2021, at 08:06, Etan Wexler wrote: > > The stewards of Racket have decided that it’s time to give up on the mailing > list (that is, racket-users,

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

There are no plans of closing the mailing list. Things take time. Different forums for communication have different strengths. Discourse might attract an audience that is unfamiliar to mailing lists. There is no need to rush things however. In due course maybe the number of users on the forum

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

That's sudden. On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 8:06 AM Etan Wexler wrote: > The stewards of Racket have decided that it’s > time to give up on the mailing list (that is, racket-users > , to which this message is > a contribution).

Re: [racket-users] Racket Discourse

I’m actually very heartened to see the boilerplate here; it sounds like this is something we can edit, and not something imposed by Discourse. If that’s the case, then it certainly seems likely that we can find some language (or, more importantly, *lack* of language) that makes more of us

Re: [racket-users] Racket Discourse

Thanks for checking on this. I'd expect something like a CoC more than a ToS in this case, but terms are terms :) If you don't mind, I have a couple of follow up questions. - Were "rank-and-file" Racket contributors alerted to this change in advance? Say, in a RacketCon speech? I may have

Re: [racket-users] Racket Discourse

Good questions: 1) Yes, Sam mentioned the discourse group at RacketCon, and there was some “hallway” discussion about it. 2) No, no sponsor was involved. Yikes! Indeed, I’m not aware that Racket *has* any sponsors currently, aside from the research and infrastructure grants that are being

Re: [racket-users] Racket Discourse

Thanks! On 11/22/21 9:58 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 9:52 AM Sage Gerard wrote: >> Thanks for checking on this. I'd expect something like a CoC more than a ToS >> in this case, but terms are terms :) > The discourse site is hosted by the people who make/run

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 15:25, Martin Weigele wrote: > A discourse type forum - we had this discussions in other contexts again > and > again - may be a better choice for persons who have the luxury they can > concentrate on very few thingies. For all others, mailinglists are a much > better

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

To add, since I forgot about the spammer: By "leaving the list to die inactive," I am assuming that the list would not be co-opted and would still function just fine as an archive. But I would love to keep the option, even if I only have a small few people to talk to. On 11/22/21 11:40 AM,

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

Y'all are configuring Discourse to allow replies by emails too, right? On 11/22/21 11:00 AM, J. Ryan Stinnett wrote: > On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 15:25, Martin Weigele wrote: > >> A discourse type forum - we had this discussions in other contexts again and >> again - may be a better choice for

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

Mozilla's notes on their own instance summarizes an email-exclusive workflow well. https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/how-do-i-use-discourse-via-email/15279 On 11/22/21 12:16 PM, 'John Clements' via Racket Users wrote: > Yes, I believe that replies by email are currently enabled. Here, let me test

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 10:16:49 AM UTC-5 Jens Axel Søgaard wrote: > There is no need to rush things however. > In due course maybe the number of users on the forum will > grow to outshadow the number of participants on the mailing list, > but it will take some years. > This was my

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

Since I missed the hallway I'll settle with a belated comment. Over my lifetime I have accumulated hundreds of accounts. Breaches led to incessant spamming. Thankfully I've kept my passwords varied and strong, so the damage hasn't terrible to contain. I tried to delete accounts to manage my

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

Yes, I believe that replies by email are currently enabled. Here, let me test that. … Oh, yeah… can’t do that, the incoming email address isn’t the one that I send from. Sigh. Perhaps someone else can try this? One thing that I know isn’t set up yet is starting a new topic by email. I know

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

That first email reads like a cross between a mathematical proof and some kind of satire. Good stuff :) The broad communication needs seem to be: (1) a bulletin board / a channel for announcements (2) a forum / a channel for discussions (3) chat / a realtime channel. (4) a knowledge base (5) a