Re: [racket-users] Possible options for stopping spam
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 12:54:30PM -0500, George Neuner wrote: > > Is there a way to whitelist / trust posters. One of the other groups I > follow is moderated, but is set up so that messages from trusted posters go > straight through. The moderator(s) only have to look at posts coming from > untrusted sources and decide whether new posters can be trusted. > > Caveat: I don't know how much effort that requires. It just seems like a > possible 4th option (if doable). This was done for the Babylon 5 usenet group a few dacades ago. Of course, that wasn't a Google-provided mailin list. -- hendrik > > > On 12/14/2021 10:02 PM, Sage Gerard wrote: > > > > > Wouldn't people asking to be invited be pretty much the same > > moderation burden as option 3, but with less support? I guess that's a > > way of saying I lean to option 3. > > > > I see what you mean. I saw "invite-only" as the option with the most > > /discretionary/ effort when volunteers are scarce, since a trusted > > member of this community can add a member with a presumably lower risk > > of introducing a spammer. Since I'm not going to be available to ban > > spammers forever, I'm reading these options in terms of minimizing the > > reasons someone has to drop what they are doing to mess with the list. > > > > On 12/14/21 3:53 PM, David Bremner wrote: > > > Sage Gerard writes: > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > I've gained administrative privileges over this list to address the > > > > spammer. I want to hear from others before I touch anything. > > > > > > > Thanks for putting effort into this. > > > > > > > I've been informed that an invite-only approach might not be > > > > appropriate, but without moderation, the only option I see is to change > > > > the privacy settings. Here are the choices Google gives us. > > > > > > > > - Invited users only > > > > - Anyone on the web can join > > > > - Anyone on the web can ask > > > Wouldn't people asking to be invited be pretty much the same moderation > > > burden as option 3, but with less support? I guess that's a way of > > > saying I lean to option 3. > > > > > > > Comments welcome, but note that I do not know the chain of command. If > > > > it comes down to my judgement, please let me know. > > > > > > > Pretty sure I'm not in any relevant chain of command. > > > > > > d > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Racket Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/f22fdcd2-0781-4012-d906-cad44617ddc4%40comcast.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/20211215183814.GA713%40topoi.pooq.com.
Re: [racket-users] Possible options for stopping spam
Is there a way to whitelist / trust posters. One of the other groups I follow is moderated, but is set up so that messages from trusted posters go straight through. The moderator(s) only have to look at posts coming from untrusted sources and decide whether new posters can be trusted. Caveat: I don't know how much effort that requires. It just seems like a possible 4th option (if doable). On 12/14/2021 10:02 PM, Sage Gerard wrote: > Wouldn't people asking to be invited be pretty much the same moderation burden as option 3, but with less support? I guess that's a way of saying I lean to option 3. I see what you mean. I saw "invite-only" as the option with the most /discretionary/ effort when volunteers are scarce, since a trusted member of this community can add a member with a presumably lower risk of introducing a spammer. Since I'm not going to be available to ban spammers forever, I'm reading these options in terms of minimizing the reasons someone has to drop what they are doing to mess with the list. On 12/14/21 3:53 PM, David Bremner wrote: Sage Gerard writes: All, I've gained administrative privileges over this list to address the spammer. I want to hear from others before I touch anything. Thanks for putting effort into this. I've been informed that an invite-only approach might not be appropriate, but without moderation, the only option I see is to change the privacy settings. Here are the choices Google gives us. - Invited users only - Anyone on the web can join - Anyone on the web can ask Wouldn't people asking to be invited be pretty much the same moderation burden as option 3, but with less support? I guess that's a way of saying I lean to option 3. Comments welcome, but note that I do not know the chain of command. If it comes down to my judgement, please let me know. Pretty sure I'm not in any relevant chain of command. d -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/f22fdcd2-0781-4012-d906-cad44617ddc4%40comcast.net.
Re: [racket-users] Possible options for stopping spam
> Wouldn't people asking to be invited be pretty much the same moderation > burden as option 3, but with less support? I guess that's a way of saying I > lean to option 3. I see what you mean. I saw "invite-only" as the option with the most discretionary effort when volunteers are scarce, since a trusted member of this community can add a member with a presumably lower risk of introducing a spammer. Since I'm not going to be available to ban spammers forever, I'm reading these options in terms of minimizing the reasons someone has to drop what they are doing to mess with the list. On 12/14/21 3:53 PM, David Bremner wrote: > Sage Gerard > [](mailto:s...@sagegerard.com) > writes: > >> All, >> >> I've gained administrative privileges over this list to address the spammer. >> I want to hear from others before I touch anything. > > Thanks for putting effort into this. > >> I've been informed that an invite-only approach might not be appropriate, >> but without moderation, the only option I see is to change the privacy >> settings. Here are the choices Google gives us. >> >> - Invited users only >> - Anyone on the web can join >> - Anyone on the web can ask > > Wouldn't people asking to be invited be pretty much the same moderation > burden as option 3, but with less support? I guess that's a way of > saying I lean to option 3. > >> Comments welcome, but note that I do not know the chain of command. If >> it comes down to my judgement, please let me know. > > Pretty sure I'm not in any relevant chain of command. > > d > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Racket Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/87r1aex5zu.fsf%40tethera.net > . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/fe8b2934-a9cd-2d55-2770-9f9fa03c6fb1%40sagegerard.com.
Re: [racket-users] Possible options for stopping spam
Sage Gerard writes: > All, > > I've gained administrative privileges over this list to address the spammer. > I want to hear from others before I touch anything. > Thanks for putting effort into this. > I've been informed that an invite-only approach might not be appropriate, but > without moderation, the only option I see is to change the privacy settings. > Here are the choices Google gives us. > > - Invited users only > - Anyone on the web can join > - Anyone on the web can ask Wouldn't people asking to be invited be pretty much the same moderation burden as option 3, but with less support? I guess that's a way of saying I lean to option 3. > > Comments welcome, but note that I do not know the chain of command. If > it comes down to my judgement, please let me know. > Pretty sure I'm not in any relevant chain of command. d -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/87r1aex5zu.fsf%40tethera.net.
[racket-users] Possible options for stopping spam
All, I've gained administrative privileges over this list to address the spammer. I want to hear from others before I touch anything. The spams continues because moderation is outright disabled for the list. Our other choices are to apply moderation to non-group members only, or everybody. I cannot select the former because it does nothing for us; the list is configured to allow anyone to join the group. I cannot easily select the latter because it means accepting moderation overhead, when the community is already moving to Discourse. I've been informed that an invite-only approach might not be appropriate, but without moderation, the only option I see is to change the privacy settings. Here are the choices Google gives us. - Invited users only - Anyone on the web can join - Anyone on the web can ask I lean toward "Invited users only" because it's the only option that does not carry a moderation requirement, which seems prudent given the state of the community. Assuming that I can give vetted, participating members power to invite, a path to revival for the mailing list exists without burdening the Discourse migration. Comments welcome, but note that I do not know the chain of command. If it comes down to my judgement, please let me know. Thanks, ~slg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/47831378-fd0c-9d97-47c3-578670005c3e%40sagegerard.com.
