Re: [racket-users] Re: Whalesong instead of Clojurescript
There has indeed not been a lot of activity, but that doesn't mean it isn't functional. I've heard now and then of people using it. It's at least worth a try — a few minutes will let you know if it's suitable for your needs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[racket-users] Re: Whalesong instead of Clojurescript
On Friday, September 2, 2016 at 1:46:29 PM UTC-4, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote: > On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 9:53:40 AM UTC-4, tbrooke wrote: > > I briefly looked at Whalesong and I was wondering if anyone is using it and > > if it is mature and ready to use. I use Clojurescript and it seems to me > > that Whalesong should be equivalent with the advantage of allowing me to > > work in Racket. > > Whalesong has some performance problems, because it tries its best to > faithfully reproduce the stack behavior we know and love. That is, > continuations, composable continuations, etc. But even more so, enabling you > to pause and stop computation, which are things alien to JavaScript. So a lot > of effort goes to stack management. This is something most transpilers to > JavaScript ignore, resulting in much better performance. > > In addition, Whalesong optimized for the student-facing aspects of Racket, > rather than the entire language (which is quite large). Therefore, you may > run into unpleasant surprises when you encounter a feature that is useful to > you but not supported. > > The best I can say is, give it a try, but don't expect too much. Depending on > your needs, you may be pleasantly satisfied, or deeply unhappy. (-: > > Shriram I also looks like there hasn't been much activity in Whalesong recently. I am intrigued by urlang and I have been looking for an excuse to dig into Nanopass -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[racket-users] Re: Whalesong instead of Clojurescript
On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 9:53:40 AM UTC-4, tbrooke wrote: > I briefly looked at Whalesong and I was wondering if anyone is using it and > if it is mature and ready to use. I use Clojurescript and it seems to me that > Whalesong should be equivalent with the advantage of allowing me to work in > Racket. Whalesong has some performance problems, because it tries its best to faithfully reproduce the stack behavior we know and love. That is, continuations, composable continuations, etc. But even more so, enabling you to pause and stop computation, which are things alien to JavaScript. So a lot of effort goes to stack management. This is something most transpilers to JavaScript ignore, resulting in much better performance. In addition, Whalesong optimized for the student-facing aspects of Racket, rather than the entire language (which is quite large). Therefore, you may run into unpleasant surprises when you encounter a feature that is useful to you but not supported. The best I can say is, give it a try, but don't expect too much. Depending on your needs, you may be pleasantly satisfied, or deeply unhappy. (-: Shriram -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
