Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-12-07 Thread James Platt
> I wouldn't take it as passive-aggressive per-se. It's just super confusing. > Especially if you watch the discussion about future of Racket at RacketCon > where Matthias has stated it pretty clearly and other confirmed that - the > core team is doing all infrastructure maintenance

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-23 Thread Dexter Lagan
Correct! Same feeling here. Sir Wexler please do explain yourself. Have a great day! Dex > On Nov 23, 2021, at 11:38 AM, kamist...@gmail.com > wrote: > >  > I searched for "Etan Wexler" on google groups and found other older messages, > but they seem more normal, human written. > But I

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-23 Thread kamist...@gmail.com
I searched for "Etan Wexler" on google groups and found other older messages, but they seem more normal, human written. But I can't quite decide whether this latest message is human art, or maybe ai art / an ai or a bot conversing. What I find strange is the repetitions within the text, but

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-23 Thread Dominik Pantůček
Hello Racketeers, I wouldn't take it as passive-aggressive per-se. It's just super confusing. Especially if you watch the discussion about future of Racket at RacketCon where Matthias has stated it pretty clearly and other confirmed that - the core team is doing all infrastructure maintenance

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-23 Thread Dexter Lagan
This is by far the strangest message I've ever read about Racket. It comes a close second to that all-caps spam we get constantly on the mailing list! I'd pay good money to know what's written between the lines. It sounds like really, really passive-aggressive. Dex On Monday, November 22,

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-22 Thread George Neuner
On 11/22/2021 11:19 AM, Philip McGrath wrote: It appears that some Gmail spam filter has decided that racket-users@googlegroups.com is a suspicious email address. It seems like roughly half of the legitimate traffic on the list is never reaching me and being marked as spam (at one of two or

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
First reason for ignoring this message: It's an html-only post on a text mailing list. -- hendrik On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 08:06:01AM -0500, Etan Wexler wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-22 Thread 'John Clements' via Racket Users
I think I agree with pretty much everything you’ve written here. I will note that your problem with sending email to the mailing list from a different address *is* one I’ve experienced, many hundreds of times. I think your #1 and your #5 is more or less what blog.racket-lang.org is. I see

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-22 Thread Siddhartha Kasivajhula
That first email reads like a cross between a mathematical proof and some kind of satire. Good stuff :) The broad communication needs seem to be: (1) a bulletin board / a channel for announcements (2) a forum / a channel for discussions (3) chat / a realtime channel. (4) a knowledge base (5) a

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-22 Thread Sage Gerard
Mozilla's notes on their own instance summarizes an email-exclusive workflow well. https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/how-do-i-use-discourse-via-email/15279 On 11/22/21 12:16 PM, 'John Clements' via Racket Users wrote: > Yes, I believe that replies by email are currently enabled. Here, let me test

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-22 Thread 'John Clements' via Racket Users
Yes, I believe that replies by email are currently enabled. Here, let me test that. … Oh, yeah… can’t do that, the incoming email address isn’t the one that I send from. Sigh. Perhaps someone else can try this? One thing that I know isn’t set up yet is starting a new topic by email. I know

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-22 Thread Sage Gerard
Y'all are configuring Discourse to allow replies by emails too, right? On 11/22/21 11:00 AM, J. Ryan Stinnett wrote: > On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 15:25, Martin Weigele wrote: > >> A discourse type forum - we had this discussions in other contexts again and >> again - may be a better choice for

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-22 Thread Sage Gerard
To add, since I forgot about the spammer: By "leaving the list to die inactive," I am assuming that the list would not be co-opted and would still function just fine as an archive. But I would love to keep the option, even if I only have a small few people to talk to. On 11/22/21 11:40 AM,

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-22 Thread Sage Gerard
Since I missed the hallway I'll settle with a belated comment. Over my lifetime I have accumulated hundreds of accounts. Breaches led to incessant spamming. Thankfully I've kept my passwords varied and strong, so the damage hasn't terrible to contain. I tried to delete accounts to manage my

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-22 Thread Philip McGrath
On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 10:16:49 AM UTC-5 Jens Axel Søgaard wrote: > There is no need to rush things however. > In due course maybe the number of users on the forum will > grow to outshadow the number of participants on the mailing list, > but it will take some years. > This was my

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-22 Thread J. Ryan Stinnett
On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 15:25, Martin Weigele wrote: > A discourse type forum - we had this discussions in other contexts again > and > again - may be a better choice for persons who have the luxury they can > concentrate on very few thingies. For all others, mailinglists are a much > better

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-22 Thread Martin Weigele
Am Montag, 22. November 2021, 16:16:35 CET schrieb Jens Axel Søgaard: > There are no plans of closing the mailing list. > > Things take time. > > Different forums for communication have different strengths. Exactly > Discourse might attract an audience that is unfamiliar to mailing lists. >

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-22 Thread Jens Axel Søgaard
There are no plans of closing the mailing list. Things take time. Different forums for communication have different strengths. Discourse might attract an audience that is unfamiliar to mailing lists. There is no need to rush things however. In due course maybe the number of users on the forum

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-22 Thread 'John Clements' via Racket Users
I’m … super confused by this message. Did I miss something? I feel like this message has a subtext that I’m completely missing. John > On Nov 22, 2021, at 08:06, Etan Wexler wrote: > > The stewards of Racket have decided that it’s time to give up on the mailing > list (that is, racket-users,

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-22 Thread Sage Gerard
If anyone here still has demand for a vanilla email list, please reach out to me. On 11/22/21 9:40 AM, David Storrs wrote: > That's sudden. > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 8:06 AM Etan Wexler wrote: > >> The stewards of [Racket](https://racket-lang.org/) have decided that it’s >> time to give up

Re: the end of the [racket-users] mailing list and the migration to Discourse as a forum for Racket

2021-11-22 Thread David Storrs
That's sudden. On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 8:06 AM Etan Wexler wrote: > The stewards of Racket have decided that it’s > time to give up on the mailing list (that is, racket-users > , to which this message is > a contribution).