Re: [Radiant] Using Radiant unpacked?

2008-11-11 Thread Mohit Sindhwani

Joe Van Dyk wrote:

Personally, I don't know why you'd want to use a gem for radiant, but
the option is there.

  

I guess it's might convenient in development!


Any time any of my applications depends on a 3rd party library, I try
to package up that library with my application.
  

I agree - in deployment, it's mighty convenient :)

Cheers,
Mohit.
11/11/2008 | 5:15 PM.

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Re: [Radiant] Using Radiant unpacked?

2008-11-11 Thread Simon Rönnqvist

  Hi!

Could it be that when using Passenger you'd save a little on the  
memory usage by having more common code in betweeen the apps? Anyhow,  
with Passenger 2 however even running vendor-Rails shouldn't be a big  
sin (from what I read somewhere).


I tried running two gem-based installations and one repo-based, I  
can't say I saw any significant difference in memory consumption or  
performance. Quite ironically I didn't see any great difference in  
memory consumption and performance between Radiant and an freshly made  
Rails app only displaying a view (with static content), so maybe I  
just looked in the wrong place... or Radiant is really light-weight. :)


  cheers, Simon


On Nov 11, 2008, at 06:36 , Joe Van Dyk wrote:


Personally, I don't know why you'd want to use a gem for radiant, but
the option is there.

Any time any of my applications depends on a 3rd party library, I try
to package up that library with my application.

Joe

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Simon Rönnqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

OK, so for what purpose was Radiant made a gem then? :)

And is there any easy way to move an installation from/to being a
repo-version to/from an installation pointing to a gem?

cheers, Simon


On Nov 10, 2008, at 23:32 , Joe Van Dyk wrote:


I'd keep as much as you can in the repository.  What happens if you
need to upgrade Radiant for one of your applications, but need to  
keep

another application on an older Radiant version?  It's no problem if
Radiant (and the rest of the libraries you use) are bundled up with
the application.

Joe

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:15 AM, Simon Rönnqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


Hi!

I just dug up this old post. :)

I found that I can also install gems in my home-directory at  
Dreamhost, I

tested installing Radiant that way and it worked. Would you still
recommend
cloning from the repo or is using a gem just as good, what pros  
and cons

do
you see?

I'm guessing that the gem version might be more stable, and also  
easier

to
maintain if I want to have several installations. While using the
repo-version again would give me more flexibility to use newer  
code, or

maybe even switch to some branch.

Is it easy to move an installation from using a gem to using a
repo-version
or the other way around?

cheers, Simon


On Oct 8, 2008, at 16:57 , Casper Fabricius wrote:


Hi Simon,

I'd recommend to do a

git clone git://github.com/radiant/radiant.git my_radiant_app

instead. Remember to create a database.yml file and to create  
the mysql

database on DH.

Med venlig hilsen / Best regards,
Casper Fabricius
http://casperfabricius.com

On 08/10/2008, at 15:44, Simon Rönnqvist wrote:


Hi!

I've been trying to use Radiant unpacked with Dreamhost. But I  
fail to
get it working, maybe I'm doing something wrong... but I failed  
to find

any
good howto.

I unpacked Radiant into my Radiant app's vendor/gems/ folder  
using gem

unpack radiant.
(I'm not 100% sure where I should put it actually.)

Then I uploaded the whole thing to Dreamhost and tried the  
following:

$ rake production db:bootstrap
(in /home/.soes/ronnqvist/radiant)
Missing the Radiant  gem. Please `gem install -v= radiant`,  
update your
RADIANT_GEM_VERSION setting in config/environment.rb for the  
Radiant

version
you do have installed, or comment out RADIANT_GEM_VERSION to  
use the

latest
version installed.

So it seems that Rake doesn't know where to look for the  
Radiant gem.

Any
ideas on how I do this very basic thing? :)

cheers, Simon
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Re: [Radiant] Using Radiant unpacked?

2008-11-10 Thread Simon Rönnqvist

  Hi!

I just dug up this old post. :)

I found that I can also install gems in my home-directory at  
Dreamhost, I tested installing Radiant that way and it worked. Would  
you still recommend cloning from the repo or is using a gem just as  
good, what pros and cons do you see?


I'm guessing that the gem version might be more stable, and also  
easier to maintain if I want to have several installations. While  
using the repo-version again would give me more flexibility to use  
newer code, or maybe even switch to some branch.


Is it easy to move an installation from using a gem to using a repo- 
version or the other way around?


  cheers, Simon


On Oct 8, 2008, at 16:57 , Casper Fabricius wrote:


Hi Simon,

I'd recommend to do a

git clone git://github.com/radiant/radiant.git my_radiant_app

instead. Remember to create a database.yml file and to create the  
mysql database on DH.


Med venlig hilsen / Best regards,
Casper Fabricius
http://casperfabricius.com

On 08/10/2008, at 15:44, Simon Rönnqvist wrote:


Hi!

I've been trying to use Radiant unpacked with Dreamhost. But I fail  
to get it working, maybe I'm doing something wrong... but I failed  
to find any good howto.


I unpacked Radiant into my Radiant app's vendor/gems/ folder using  
gem unpack radiant.

(I'm not 100% sure where I should put it actually.)

Then I uploaded the whole thing to Dreamhost and tried the following:
$ rake production db:bootstrap
(in /home/.soes/ronnqvist/radiant)
Missing the Radiant  gem. Please `gem install -v= radiant`, update  
your RADIANT_GEM_VERSION setting in config/environment.rb for the  
Radiant version you do have installed, or comment out  
RADIANT_GEM_VERSION to use the latest version installed.


So it seems that Rake doesn't know where to look for the Radiant  
gem. Any ideas on how I do this very basic thing? :)


cheers, Simon
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Re: [Radiant] Using Radiant unpacked?

2008-11-10 Thread Joe Van Dyk
I'd keep as much as you can in the repository.  What happens if you
need to upgrade Radiant for one of your applications, but need to keep
another application on an older Radiant version?  It's no problem if
Radiant (and the rest of the libraries you use) are bundled up with
the application.

Joe

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:15 AM, Simon Rönnqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi!

 I just dug up this old post. :)

 I found that I can also install gems in my home-directory at Dreamhost, I
 tested installing Radiant that way and it worked. Would you still recommend
 cloning from the repo or is using a gem just as good, what pros and cons do
 you see?

 I'm guessing that the gem version might be more stable, and also easier to
 maintain if I want to have several installations. While using the
 repo-version again would give me more flexibility to use newer code, or
 maybe even switch to some branch.

 Is it easy to move an installation from using a gem to using a repo-version
 or the other way around?

  cheers, Simon


 On Oct 8, 2008, at 16:57 , Casper Fabricius wrote:

 Hi Simon,

 I'd recommend to do a

 git clone git://github.com/radiant/radiant.git my_radiant_app

 instead. Remember to create a database.yml file and to create the mysql
 database on DH.

 Med venlig hilsen / Best regards,
 Casper Fabricius
 http://casperfabricius.com

 On 08/10/2008, at 15:44, Simon Rönnqvist wrote:

 Hi!

 I've been trying to use Radiant unpacked with Dreamhost. But I fail to
 get it working, maybe I'm doing something wrong... but I failed to find any
 good howto.

 I unpacked Radiant into my Radiant app's vendor/gems/ folder using gem
 unpack radiant.
 (I'm not 100% sure where I should put it actually.)

 Then I uploaded the whole thing to Dreamhost and tried the following:
 $ rake production db:bootstrap
 (in /home/.soes/ronnqvist/radiant)
 Missing the Radiant  gem. Please `gem install -v= radiant`, update your
 RADIANT_GEM_VERSION setting in config/environment.rb for the Radiant version
 you do have installed, or comment out RADIANT_GEM_VERSION to use the latest
 version installed.

 So it seems that Rake doesn't know where to look for the Radiant gem. Any
 ideas on how I do this very basic thing? :)

 cheers, Simon
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Re: [Radiant] Using Radiant unpacked?

2008-11-10 Thread Simon Rönnqvist

OK, so for what purpose was Radiant made a gem then? :)

And is there any easy way to move an installation from/to being a repo- 
version to/from an installation pointing to a gem?


  cheers, Simon


On Nov 10, 2008, at 23:32 , Joe Van Dyk wrote:


I'd keep as much as you can in the repository.  What happens if you
need to upgrade Radiant for one of your applications, but need to keep
another application on an older Radiant version?  It's no problem if
Radiant (and the rest of the libraries you use) are bundled up with
the application.

Joe

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:15 AM, Simon Rönnqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi!

I just dug up this old post. :)

I found that I can also install gems in my home-directory at  
Dreamhost, I
tested installing Radiant that way and it worked. Would you still  
recommend
cloning from the repo or is using a gem just as good, what pros and  
cons do

you see?

I'm guessing that the gem version might be more stable, and also  
easier to

maintain if I want to have several installations. While using the
repo-version again would give me more flexibility to use newer  
code, or

maybe even switch to some branch.

Is it easy to move an installation from using a gem to using a repo- 
version

or the other way around?

cheers, Simon


On Oct 8, 2008, at 16:57 , Casper Fabricius wrote:


Hi Simon,

I'd recommend to do a

git clone git://github.com/radiant/radiant.git my_radiant_app

instead. Remember to create a database.yml file and to create the  
mysql

database on DH.

Med venlig hilsen / Best regards,
Casper Fabricius
http://casperfabricius.com

On 08/10/2008, at 15:44, Simon Rönnqvist wrote:


Hi!

I've been trying to use Radiant unpacked with Dreamhost. But I  
fail to
get it working, maybe I'm doing something wrong... but I failed  
to find any

good howto.

I unpacked Radiant into my Radiant app's vendor/gems/ folder  
using gem

unpack radiant.
(I'm not 100% sure where I should put it actually.)

Then I uploaded the whole thing to Dreamhost and tried the  
following:

$ rake production db:bootstrap
(in /home/.soes/ronnqvist/radiant)
Missing the Radiant  gem. Please `gem install -v= radiant`,  
update your
RADIANT_GEM_VERSION setting in config/environment.rb for the  
Radiant version
you do have installed, or comment out RADIANT_GEM_VERSION to use  
the latest

version installed.

So it seems that Rake doesn't know where to look for the Radiant  
gem. Any

ideas on how I do this very basic thing? :)

cheers, Simon
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Re: [Radiant] Using Radiant unpacked?

2008-11-10 Thread john

On 2008/11/10, at 15:19, Simon Rönnqvist wrote:

And is there any easy way to move an installation from/to being a  
repo-version to/from an installation pointing to a gem?


From the command line you can use

# go from gem to vendor'd bleeding edge
rake radiant:freeze:edge

# go from gem to vendor'd 0.6.9
rake radiant:freeze:edge TAG=0.6.9

# go from vendor'd back to gem
rake radiant:unfreeze

You can use `rake -T radiant` to see all the Radiant specific tasks  
available.


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Re: [Radiant] Using Radiant unpacked?

2008-11-10 Thread Joe Van Dyk
Personally, I don't know why you'd want to use a gem for radiant, but
the option is there.

Any time any of my applications depends on a 3rd party library, I try
to package up that library with my application.

Joe

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Simon Rönnqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK, so for what purpose was Radiant made a gem then? :)

 And is there any easy way to move an installation from/to being a
 repo-version to/from an installation pointing to a gem?

  cheers, Simon


 On Nov 10, 2008, at 23:32 , Joe Van Dyk wrote:

 I'd keep as much as you can in the repository.  What happens if you
 need to upgrade Radiant for one of your applications, but need to keep
 another application on an older Radiant version?  It's no problem if
 Radiant (and the rest of the libraries you use) are bundled up with
 the application.

 Joe

 On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:15 AM, Simon Rönnqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi!

 I just dug up this old post. :)

 I found that I can also install gems in my home-directory at Dreamhost, I
 tested installing Radiant that way and it worked. Would you still
 recommend
 cloning from the repo or is using a gem just as good, what pros and cons
 do
 you see?

 I'm guessing that the gem version might be more stable, and also easier
 to
 maintain if I want to have several installations. While using the
 repo-version again would give me more flexibility to use newer code, or
 maybe even switch to some branch.

 Is it easy to move an installation from using a gem to using a
 repo-version
 or the other way around?

 cheers, Simon


 On Oct 8, 2008, at 16:57 , Casper Fabricius wrote:

 Hi Simon,

 I'd recommend to do a

 git clone git://github.com/radiant/radiant.git my_radiant_app

 instead. Remember to create a database.yml file and to create the mysql
 database on DH.

 Med venlig hilsen / Best regards,
 Casper Fabricius
 http://casperfabricius.com

 On 08/10/2008, at 15:44, Simon Rönnqvist wrote:

 Hi!

 I've been trying to use Radiant unpacked with Dreamhost. But I fail to
 get it working, maybe I'm doing something wrong... but I failed to find
 any
 good howto.

 I unpacked Radiant into my Radiant app's vendor/gems/ folder using gem
 unpack radiant.
 (I'm not 100% sure where I should put it actually.)

 Then I uploaded the whole thing to Dreamhost and tried the following:
 $ rake production db:bootstrap
 (in /home/.soes/ronnqvist/radiant)
 Missing the Radiant  gem. Please `gem install -v= radiant`, update your
 RADIANT_GEM_VERSION setting in config/environment.rb for the Radiant
 version
 you do have installed, or comment out RADIANT_GEM_VERSION to use the
 latest
 version installed.

 So it seems that Rake doesn't know where to look for the Radiant gem.
 Any
 ideas on how I do this very basic thing? :)

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Re: [Radiant] Using Radiant unpacked?

2008-10-08 Thread Sean Cribbs

Radiant must be unpacked directly into vendor/radiant, not vendor/gems.

Sean

Simon Rönnqvist wrote:

 Hi!

I've been trying to use Radiant unpacked with Dreamhost. But I fail to 
get it working, maybe I'm doing something wrong... but I failed to 
find any good howto.


I unpacked Radiant into my Radiant app's vendor/gems/ folder using 
gem unpack radiant.

(I'm not 100% sure where I should put it actually.)

Then I uploaded the whole thing to Dreamhost and tried the following:
$ rake production db:bootstrap
(in /home/.soes/ronnqvist/radiant)
Missing the Radiant  gem. Please `gem install -v= radiant`, update 
your RADIANT_GEM_VERSION setting in config/environment.rb for the 
Radiant version you do have installed, or comment out 
RADIANT_GEM_VERSION to use the latest version installed.


So it seems that Rake doesn't know where to look for the Radiant gem. 
Any ideas on how I do this very basic thing? :)


 cheers, Simon
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Re: [Radiant] Using Radiant unpacked?

2008-10-08 Thread Anton Aylward

Casper Fabricius said the following on 08/10/08 09:57 AM:

Hi Simon,

I'd recommend to do a

git clone git://github.com/radiant/radiant.git my_radiant_app

instead. Remember to create a database.yml file and to create the  
mysql database on DH.


*sigh*
I had just got my head around SVN when you guys switched to GIT and 
using the various repositories via the web isn't as 'obvious' as it was 
with SVN.


I tried the above and wow!  But how do I figure out all teh add-ons?

More specifically, how do I upgrade a site running a 0.5 release and 
make it 'updateable' now that we have GIT?  I know I'll have to clean 
out all the .svn* directories and files, but what else?



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...Then anyone who leaves behind him a written manual, and likewise 
anyone who receives it, in the belief that such writing will be clear 
and certain, must be exceedingly simple-minded... -- Plato, _Phaedrus_

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