Re: [Radiant] New RedCloth

2008-07-24 Thread Sean Cribbs
How would people feel about switching to a gem dependency on the latest 
RedCloth (instead of packaging it)?


Sean

Ollivier Robert wrote:

Have you seen this announcement?

http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/RubyInside/~3/342732232/redcloth-4-released-962.html

Apart from dropping of Markdown support (does radiant use it?), it
could be interesting to update it.
  


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Re: [Radiant] New RedCloth

2008-07-24 Thread Chris Parrish

I'm fine with it.  Looks like a good improvement too.

Now all we need is a better Markdown parser.

-Chris

Sean Cribbs wrote:
How would people feel about switching to a gem dependency on the 
latest RedCloth (instead of packaging it)?


Sean

Ollivier Robert wrote:

Have you seen this announcement?

http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/RubyInside/~3/342732232/redcloth-4-released-962.html 



Apart from dropping of Markdown support (does radiant use it?), it
could be interesting to update it.
  


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Re: [Radiant] New RedCloth

2008-07-24 Thread Sean Cribbs
Someone was working on a branch that uses rdiscount, an improved 
Markdown parser.


Sean

Chris Parrish wrote:

I'm fine with it.  Looks like a good improvement too.

Now all we need is a better Markdown parser.

-Chris

Sean Cribbs wrote:
How would people feel about switching to a gem dependency on the 
latest RedCloth (instead of packaging it)?


Sean

Ollivier Robert wrote:

Have you seen this announcement?

http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/RubyInside/~3/342732232/redcloth-4-released-962.html 



Apart from dropping of Markdown support (does radiant use it?), it
could be interesting to update it.
  


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Re: [Radiant] New RedCloth

2008-07-24 Thread Jim Gay

It's a bit of a detour from Radiant being geared toward shared hosting.

John Muhl is working on a branch than uses RDiscount (which is a  
better Markdown parser).

http://github.com/johnmuhl/radiant/tree/markdown

On Jul 24, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Chris Parrish wrote:


I'm fine with it.  Looks like a good improvement too.

Now all we need is a better Markdown parser.

-Chris

Sean Cribbs wrote:
How would people feel about switching to a gem dependency on the  
latest RedCloth (instead of packaging it)?


Sean

Ollivier Robert wrote:

Have you seen this announcement?

http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/RubyInside/~3/342732232/redcloth-4- 
released-962.html


Apart from dropping of Markdown support (does radiant use it?), it
could be interesting to update it.


Jim Gay
http://www.saturnflyer.com



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Re: [Radiant] New RedCloth

2008-07-24 Thread Chris Parrish
I understood discoount to be *nix only (no Windows).  I'll have to look 
into it further.


-Chris

Jim Gay wrote:

It's a bit of a detour from Radiant being geared toward shared hosting.

John Muhl is working on a branch than uses RDiscount (which is a 
better Markdown parser).

http://github.com/johnmuhl/radiant/tree/markdown

On Jul 24, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Chris Parrish wrote:


I'm fine with it.  Looks like a good improvement too.

Now all we need is a better Markdown parser.

-Chris

Sean Cribbs wrote:
How would people feel about switching to a gem dependency on the 
latest RedCloth (instead of packaging it)?


Sean

Ollivier Robert wrote:

Have you seen this announcement?

http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/RubyInside/~3/342732232/redcloth-4-released-962.html 



Apart from dropping of Markdown support (does radiant use it?), it
could be interesting to update it.


Jim Gay
http://www.saturnflyer.com



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Re: [Radiant] New RedCloth

2008-07-24 Thread Sean Cribbs
That was my main concern... I'd like to continue packaging the library 
with Radiant, but it is no longer pure-Ruby and must be compiled.  That 
said, RubyGems has greatly improved since we started down this road.


Sean

Jim Gay wrote:

It's a bit of a detour from Radiant being geared toward shared hosting.

John Muhl is working on a branch than uses RDiscount (which is a 
better Markdown parser).

http://github.com/johnmuhl/radiant/tree/markdown

On Jul 24, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Chris Parrish wrote:


I'm fine with it.  Looks like a good improvement too.

Now all we need is a better Markdown parser.

-Chris

Sean Cribbs wrote:
How would people feel about switching to a gem dependency on the 
latest RedCloth (instead of packaging it)?


Sean

Ollivier Robert wrote:

Have you seen this announcement?

http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/RubyInside/~3/342732232/redcloth-4-released-962.html 



Apart from dropping of Markdown support (does radiant use it?), it
could be interesting to update it.


Jim Gay
http://www.saturnflyer.com



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Re: [Radiant] New RedCloth

2008-07-24 Thread john muhl

On 2008/07/24, at 07:44, Sean Cribbs wrote:

How would people feel about switching to a gem dependency on the  
latest RedCloth (instead of packaging it)?


I think it's going to have to happen at some point unless Radiant  
wants to keep using the same old text parsing libraries from  
2004/2005. Waiting for the pure ruby libraries catch back up is the  
other (wishful) option.



On 2008/07/24, at 09:31, Chris Parrish wrote:

I understood discoount to be *nix only (no Windows).  I'll have to  
look into it further.


That's right. Although there isn't anything really stopping it from  
being compiled for windows with mingw just like they did RedCloth 4;  
except of course finding people who use windows to do the work :)  
There is also PEG markdown (rpeg-markdown in ruby land) but right now  
it is completely unusable on big (huge?) spans of text and I'm not  
sure it's any easier to get running in windows. Personally, I'd rather  
have a PEG based Markdown than a Discount based one.



As far as getting a new Markdown parser into core I'd say don't even  
bother yet. As has been stated Discount doesn't (yet) run on windows,  
and PEG Markdown is crashy (and probably doesn't run on windows either).


I would definitely like to see Radiant upgrade to RedCloth 4 sometime  
soon. If no one jumps up to take it on in the next week, I'll try to  
get it running then.



p.s. I did put together a standalone Markdown filter that uses  
rdiscount, so if you can install gems and don't run windows you can  
use that until something better is in the core. I use it on live sites  
with no problems (some were even started with the standard Markdown  
filter and upgraded without issue).


http://github.com/johnmuhl/radiant-markdown-extension


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Re: [Radiant] New RedCloth

2008-07-24 Thread Chris Parrish
I saw somewhere that Luis Lavena was researching porting rDiscount to 
Windows but also that it didn't look good (discount depends on some *nix 
only libraries, I think)


Hopefully I'm wrong, though.

Either way, I didn't mean to hijack a thread.  New Redcloth for all!

-Chris



john muhl wrote:

On 2008/07/24, at 07:44, Sean Cribbs wrote:

How would people feel about switching to a gem dependency on the 
latest RedCloth (instead of packaging it)?


I think it's going to have to happen at some point unless Radiant 
wants to keep using the same old text parsing libraries from 
2004/2005. Waiting for the pure ruby libraries catch back up is the 
other (wishful) option.



On 2008/07/24, at 09:31, Chris Parrish wrote:

I understood discoount to be *nix only (no Windows).  I'll have to 
look into it further.


That's right. Although there isn't anything really stopping it from 
being compiled for windows with mingw just like they did RedCloth 4; 
except of course finding people who use windows to do the work :) 
There is also PEG markdown (rpeg-markdown in ruby land) but right now 
it is completely unusable on big (huge?) spans of text and I'm not 
sure it's any easier to get running in windows. Personally, I'd rather 
have a PEG based Markdown than a Discount based one.



As far as getting a new Markdown parser into core I'd say don't even 
bother yet. As has been stated Discount doesn't (yet) run on windows, 
and PEG Markdown is crashy (and probably doesn't run on windows either).


I would definitely like to see Radiant upgrade to RedCloth 4 sometime 
soon. If no one jumps up to take it on in the next week, I'll try to 
get it running then.



p.s. I did put together a standalone Markdown filter that uses 
rdiscount, so if you can install gems and don't run windows you can 
use that until something better is in the core. I use it on live sites 
with no problems (some were even started with the standard Markdown 
filter and upgraded without issue).


http://github.com/johnmuhl/radiant-markdown-extension


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