Re: [Rails-core] Too. Many. Scriptaculous. Tickets.

2006-06-03 Thread Julian 'Julik' Tarkhanov
On 4-jun-2006, at 4:22, Michael Koziarski wrote: > Yup, I'm not against doing away with proper patches. I'm against > things like "It'd be nice if scriptaculous had a helper to make a web > 2.0 application for me". Then I misunderstood the message completely. I am 200% on to wipe the "magic

Re: [Rails-core] Too. Many. Scriptaculous. Tickets.

2006-06-03 Thread Kevin Clark
I'm *definitely* not suggesting that we get rid of patches which implement new functionality. Quite the opposite, I simply think all enhancement requests should be in the form of a patch. Trac isn't the place for discussing new features, this list is. We should try and keep trac to a list

Re: [Rails-core] Too. Many. Scriptaculous. Tickets.

2006-06-03 Thread Michael Koziarski
> Yup, I'm not against doing away with proper patches. I'm against > things like "It'd be nice if scriptaculous had a helper to make a web > 2.0 application for me". Then I misunderstood the message completely. I am 200% on to wipe the "magic lantern" patches. In hindsight, I communicated poorl

Re: [Rails-core] Too. Many. Scriptaculous. Tickets.

2006-06-03 Thread Michael Koziarski
If you're overwhelmed with feature requests from a particular area, the solution is not to force people to stop requesting. The solution is to use Trac more effectively. Use filters, for christ sake! And it may be good idea that some available Trac reports ( http://dev.rubyonrails.org/report) filt

[Rails-core] Rails AR/Oracle Unit Test: [4430] failed (but getting better)

2006-06-03 Thread Michael Schoen
"david" has given AR/Oracle some love, but it's still unhappy... http://dev.rubyonrails.org/changeset/4430 r4430 | david | 2006-06-03 16:27:51 -0700 (Sat, 03 Jun 2006) | 1 line Rolled back broken aliasing ---

[Rails-core] Rails AR/Oracle Unit Test: [4429] failed (getting worse)

2006-06-03 Thread Michael Schoen
"david" has kicked AR/Oracle while it was down... http://dev.rubyonrails.org/changeset/4429 r4429 | david | 2006-06-03 15:43:13 -0700 (Sat, 03 Jun 2006) | 1 line Fixed that Module#alias_method_chain should work with both foo

Re: [Rails-core] Too. Many. Scriptaculous. Tickets.

2006-06-03 Thread Mislav Marohnić
If you're overwhelmed with feature requests from a particular area, the solution is not to force people to stop requesting. The solution is to use Trac more effectively. Use filters, for christ sake! And it may be good idea that some available Trac reports ( http://dev.rubyonrails.org/report) filte

[Rails-core] Rails AR/Oracle Unit Test: [4419] failed (getting worse)

2006-06-03 Thread Michael Schoen
"david" has kicked AR/Oracle while it was down... http://dev.rubyonrails.org/changeset/4419 r4419 | david | 2006-06-03 14:41:40 -0700 (Sat, 03 Jun 2006) | 1 line Fixed migration trouble with SQLite when NOT NULL is used in t

Re: [Rails-core] Too. Many. Scriptaculous. Tickets.

2006-06-03 Thread Julian 'Julik' Tarkhanov
On 3-jun-2006, at 20:45, Kevin Clark wrote: Yup, I'm not against doing away with proper patches. I'm against things like "It'd be nice if scriptaculous had a helper to make a web 2.0 application for me". Then I misunderstood the message completely. I am 200% on to wipe the "magic lantern" p

Re: [Rails-core] Too. Many. Scriptaculous. Tickets.

2006-06-03 Thread Kevin Clark
Yup, I'm not against doing away with proper patches. I'm against things like "It'd be nice if scriptaculous had a helper to make a web 2.0 application for me". Patches certainly still have a place, and essential functionality where the code fills a common need definitely belongs in core. That bein

Re: [Rails-core] Too. Many. Scriptaculous. Tickets.

2006-06-03 Thread Marcel Molina Jr.
On Sat, Jun 03, 2006 at 08:34:13PM +0200, Julian 'Julik' Tarkhanov wrote: > > On 3-jun-2006, at 19:47, Kevin Clark wrote: > > >>-1 because with this you are manifesting that Rails IS perfect and > >>anyone who thinks the way it works should be upgraded has to either > >>make workarounds or create

Re: [Rails-core] Too. Many. Scriptaculous. Tickets.

2006-06-03 Thread Julian 'Julik' Tarkhanov
On 3-jun-2006, at 19:47, Kevin Clark wrote: -1 because with this you are manifesting that Rails IS perfect and anyone who thinks the way it works should be upgraded has to either make workarounds or create exceptionally breakable plugins that override code. I disagree. The problem is that the

Re: [Rails-core] Too. Many. Scriptaculous. Tickets.

2006-06-03 Thread Kevin Clark
-1 because with this you are manifesting that Rails IS perfect and anyone who thinks the way it works should be upgraded has to either make workarounds or create exceptionally breakable plugins that override code. I disagree. The problem is that the trac has been the place to ask for everything

Re: [Rails-core] Routing rewrite, checked in

2006-06-03 Thread Julian 'Julik' Tarkhanov
On 3-jun-2006, at 5:00, Julian 'Julik' Tarkhanov wrote: On 2-jun-2006, at 7:57, Jamis Buck wrote: Hampton, Thanks for your testing on this. It does appear that :id, at least, is extra sticky now. We'll see what can be done with this, since it should definitely not be acting so zealous.

Re: [Rails-core] Too. Many. Scriptaculous. Tickets.

2006-06-03 Thread Julian 'Julik' Tarkhanov
On 3-jun-2006, at 5:17, Michael Koziarski wrote: No More Enhancement Tickets. Tickets in trac should either be: 1) Bug Report 2) Patch. This will cut down the volume of submissions, and hopefully let us focus on the good stuff that's coming in every day. Thoughts? -1 because with this you