[RBW] Re: Phil/IRD FW Hubs

2009-08-14 Thread Angus
Garth, I measured from the outer face of the smallest cog to the inner face of the dropout with calipers. I measured three times rotating the wheel freewheel between measuremets. 5.9mm 6.2mm 6.2mm Hope this helps. Angus On Aug 13, 11:52 am, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Angus,  

[RBW] Re: Baggins pannier cleaning

2009-08-14 Thread Will
Actually, I think a good layer of Filson wax makes the bag a bit more water-repellant. Follow the directions - clean bag, work the stuff in and then use a heat gun or hair dryer to work it into the fabric thoroughly. Make sure you hit the stitched areas thoroughly. Should work fine. Jim: Why

[RBW] Re: Phil/IRD FW Hubs

2009-08-14 Thread RonLau
Garth, Hello, I will suggest you contact Phil Wood directly for the answer you are looking for? serv...@philwood.com They have superb customer service when I contacted them. Ron On Aug 13, 7:32 am, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone used the Phil/IRD aka Riv hubs with a freewheel

[RBW] Re: Baggins pannier cleaning

2009-08-14 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/14/09 6:09 AM, Will at wpm...@gmail.com wrote: Jim: Why didn't I think of Filson wax? Just scrub the heck out of the bag and re-wax. Brilliant. For what it's worth, a friend who is a bit of a Filson junkie uses a heat gun to apply Filson wax, then throws the garment in the cloths dryer

[RBW] A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread CycloFiend
Hey there - Grant was kind enough to share some info about the Roadeo, which follows in this email. He was also kind enough to share the prototype photo, which appears via my blog (the text is the same in both): http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=376 --- Hi Jim, We got

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread Anne Paulson
How soon can we order one? -- Anne, feeling the bike lust already On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:36 AM, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.netwrote: Hey there - Grant was kind enough to share some info about the Roadeo, which follows in this email. He was also kind enough to share the prototype

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread JoelMatthews
Thank you Jim. Color pattern kind of reminds me of the Trek 959 (a good thing imo). You know, I have a lot of antique racing parts that have been waiting for just the right frame. Maybe Riv would do one with DT braze ons. On Aug 14, 11:36 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: Hey

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread Dustin Sharp
Looks great, and I'd love to get one! But now how do I convince myself that it will really and truly make me faster than my Kirk? http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww336/dn_sharp/IMG_0706.jpg Ya know, it must be all that wind resistance from my cantis! That's right, I need a bike with caliper

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread Esteban
Wow - that's just about perfect. I love the white. The design seems to constitute good variety and differentiation from the country bikes. Dustin - you need a non-all-rounder! This bike could achieve some real cross-over appeal with the folks who pass me on the Coast Highway. Esteba San

[RBW] Happily Pedaling Free (finally)

2009-08-14 Thread cm
Just finished up a 6 day 400 mile tour of the great state of Vermont (huge shout to the most beautiful state in the union). Rode a borrowed bike so that I didn't have to transport my bike from Arizona. The borrowed bike had MKS Sneaker Pedals-- and let me just say, they are amazing. I have had

[RBW] Re: Happily Pedaling Free (finally)

2009-08-14 Thread Frederick, Steve
Did you do the Adventure Cyclist VT. ride, or self-supported? Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of cm Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:28 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Happily Pedaling Free

[RBW] Re: Happily Pedaling Free (finally)

2009-08-14 Thread Ray Shine
I'm with you. I just finished doing 2400 miles SF to OK City via the Western Express route. I rode the whole route on GripKings with uncleated mountain bike shoes. Very comfy, and much safer in my opinion. I climbed thousands of feet and never felt disadvantaged due to lack ofcleats or clips.

[RBW] Re: Happily Pedaling Free (finally)

2009-08-14 Thread Patrick in VT
On Aug 14, 1:27 pm, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: Just finished up a 6 day 400 mile tour of the great state of Vermont (huge shout to the most beautiful state in the union). Nice. there certainly is some amazing riding here in Vermont. Hit any of the gaps? Hope you discovered some of

[RBW] Re: NOS dirt drop handlebars at RBW

2009-08-14 Thread Jeremy Till
Sweet! Ordered a pair...i've been wanting to try these for a long time. I've got kind of a flared drop bar fetish. On Aug 13, 5:59 pm, erik jensen bicyclen...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be the messenger, I guess.http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/146 cheers, erik

[RBW] Re: Happily Pedaling Free (finally)

2009-08-14 Thread James Dinneen
I have the sneaker pedals on a single speed for around town (not a Q'Beam unfortunately). The pedals are great, much better than I expected but I have not had the inclination to try them on a tour or longer ride. Perhaps I should give it a try. I am not sure that I would want the grip kings

[RBW] Re: Happily Pedaling Free (finally)

2009-08-14 Thread EricP
Sneakers are on my Hillborne and GK on the Atlantis. Overall, and being biased, I like the sneaks. However, whether that is really because they work better for my wide feet, or because I want them to because they are cheaper, I don't know. Both work well with Teva sandals. Not sure about my

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread SB
Nice looking bike. The only feature I would change is the shifting -- I would like the option of being able to use down-tube shifters. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post

[RBW] Southern California Riv Ride Sunday - Tour de San Diego 9:30am

2009-08-14 Thread Esteban
So, this Sunday, there will be a meeting of the Southern California Rivendell Bicycle Appreciation Society and we'll do a mostly flat 45 mile city ride that will look mostly like this: http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Tour-de-San-Diego-Riv-Ride 9:30ish arrive, 10am depart - Santa Fe Train

[RBW] Re: Happily Pedaling Free (finally)

2009-08-14 Thread James Dinneen
Sneaker pedals are great with my Keen H2 (smooth bottom boat shoe sole). Could not ask for a better interface.     Jim D. Massachusetts --- On Fri, 8/14/09, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: From: EricP ericpl...@aol.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Happily Pedaling Free (finally) To: RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: Happily Pedaling Free (finally)

2009-08-14 Thread Len Lescosky
The touring pedals are fine for free pedaling too. I have Sneaker, Touring, and Grip Kings. I like them all, and in that order. The width and grip of the Sneakers make them number one. If the GKs were grippier I would put them number two, but they can be slippery depending on the shoe. Len

[RBW] Roadeo Redux?

2009-08-14 Thread Bruce
Jim: Thanks for the test track sneak peek of a great looking club ride bike. The feel of it seemed familiar, so I compared it to a '95 (also Ford built) Riv. No headtube extension, no TT upslope as on the later Road Standard model. The current lugset is Saluki-ish looking, but the bikes

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Redux?

2009-08-14 Thread BPustow
A Waterford built road bike for $2000? That's quite a deal although Grant could charge more if he changed the stupid name. No offense. Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 8/14/2009 4:25:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, fullylug...@yahoo.com writes: Jim: Thanks for the test track

[RBW] Re: NOS dirt drop handlebars at RBW

2009-08-14 Thread Murray Love
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: Sweet! Ordered a pair...i've been wanting to try these for a long time. I've got kind of a flared drop bar fetish. On Aug 13, 5:59 pm, erik jensen bicyclen...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be the messenger, I guess.

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread James Warren
-Original Message- From: Esteban proto...@gmail.com This bike could achieve some real cross-over appeal with the folks who pass me on the Coast Highway. But it will have some tough competition from Specialized's steel Allez that they are re-introducing next year. The two bikes are

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread Dustin Sharp
Just curious: is there a pic or link to the 2010 Allez anywhere? But it will have some tough competition from Specialized's steel Allez that they are re-introducing next year. The two bikes are actuallly quite different (for example, the steel Allez will come with downtube shifters and

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread Murray Love
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Dustin Sharp dsh...@runbox.com wrote: Just curious: is there a pic or link to the 2010 Allez anywhere? Seconded! I couldn't find anything on Google. I know it's not RBW content, but a simple link would be very interesting! Specialized re-did the 1980s

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Redux?

2009-08-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 13:50 -0700, Dustin Sharp wrote: OK, I still like it. But after staring at that picture a bit more, doesn’t it seem that a bike like this calls for a lugset that is a bit less baroque? I think it’s been scientifically proven that curly-Qs make you rider slower, if only

[RBW] Re: Brooks Upgrade Service

2009-08-14 Thread Bob H.
Yes, I have a Brooks Professional that was cut and upgraded with the clydesdale laminate. Probably a thousand or more miles on it since. It rides on a fixed gear road bike that has about 3 inches of drop from the saddle to the top of the bars. Riding long distance fixed you seem to spend less

[RBW] Re: Brooks Upgrade Service

2009-08-14 Thread R Gonet
Why not just buy a Selle Anatomica in the first place? Out of the box they're much more comfortable than a broken-in B-17, IMO. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread fiddlr40
Thanks for that info, Jim. I'll have to drop by and try it out. Very cool looking, imho. I'd get one if I hadn't just bought a Legolas, which doubles as my fast club ride bike. Jim Mather WC CA On Aug 14, 9:36 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: Hey there - Grant was kind enough

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread Rocky B
Great-looking bike. Can't wait to see the final version. Is it me or does lugged frames with threadless stems look weird? I can never get used to them together. -Rocky --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread James Warren
Well, as for the 2010 steel Allez, the owner of the local bikeshop had an early copy of the 2010 Specialized paper catalog, and he showed me the steel Allez page. I guess it's still a bit of a secret. -James -Original Message- From: Murray Love Sent: Aug 14, 2009

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread Tim McNamara
On Aug 14, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Rocky B wrote: Great-looking bike. Can't wait to see the final version. Is it me or does lugged frames with threadless stems look weird? I can never get used to them together. They looked fine when Alex Singer and Rene Herse did them 50 years ago. And Tom

[RBW] Re: Happily Pedaling Free (finally)

2009-08-14 Thread cm
We used the Adventure Cycling map and stuck with their suggested route for about 80% of it. It was self-supported (3 of us, 2 with panniers, 1 trailer). We went over Middlebury Gap, Rochester Gap, and Jay Peak. While not too long, the grade on some of the sections is impressive. Spent a fair

[RBW] Tea Tin Tube Kits

2009-08-14 Thread colin p. cummings
Hey all, Shameless (sort of) promotional post. I've got this stockpile of tea tins from the coffee shop where I work, and have come up with a way to re-purpose them. Visit the link below for details. Cheers, colin cummings amarillo, tx http://listentocolinramble.blogspot.com/

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread James Warren
-Original Message- From: Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net I think the issue is that the modern threadless stem tends to have a big fat tube instead of an elegant looking tube for the extension. Nail on the head. Most stems in the mainstream now really look lousy. I'll give up

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread Tim McNamara
On Aug 14, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 17:36 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: On Aug 14, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Rocky B wrote: Great-looking bike. Can't wait to see the final version. Is it me or does lugged frames with threadless stems look weird? I can

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread RoadieRyan
Thanks Jim and Grant for the sneak preview look forward to hearing more about the Roadeo On Aug 14, 4:48 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net I think the issue   is that the modern threadless stem tends to have

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Redux?

2009-08-14 Thread Joe Bartoe
That's why I ride with my eyes closed! Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:50:04 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Redux? From: dsh...@runbox.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Redux? OK, I still like it. But after staring at that picture a bit more, doesn’t it seem that a

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread Aaron Thomas
In all fairness to Mark, it must be kept in mind that the goal was to build the prototype with weight in mind, given that the Roadeo is intended as a lightweight club rider. I'm not sure about the particular Ritchey stem he used, but since many of those sorts of stems weigh just a little over

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread R Gonet
Also check out the Velo Orange stems. http://www.velo-orange.com/vostem.html They also sell a nice stem adapter. http://www.velo-orange.com/vothstad.html I have purchased these for an RB-1 rebuild and they are beautiful. On Aug 14, 6:57 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri,

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread JoelMatthews
Steve: I really like the front 3/4s of that stem, but it kind of loses it (for me any way) at the back with the two bulky bolt ons. Jon Kendziera did make and Tony Pereira still makes threadless stems where the bolt on devices is at the bottom of the tube sleeve, discretely facing the front of

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread Bruce
with the final Roadeo frame weight pegged at 3. lbs Carbon is not 3 or 4 lbs better. 1 1/2lbs maybe. Wheelset, tires, saddle choices affect final weight a lot. How much of one do you trade for the other? Before I gave up on racing geometry, I rode a KHS Reynolds 853 frameset that weighed

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread Aaron Thomas
But the same applies to the Ritchey stem that was under discussion above, since it too is threadless. On Aug 14, 6:12 pm, R Gonet richard.go...@earthlink.net wrote: But don't forget that with the Nitto stem you are saving the weight of the fork tube extension, whatever that may be. On Aug

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread R Gonet
Right, but you were comparing it to the Nitto, which is heavier because it has the vertical portion that inserts into the head tube. The Ritchey and VO do not, but you then have to factor in the weight of the fork tube and spacers, etc. My uneducated guess is that it's a wash. On Aug 14, 9:41 

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread Aaron Thomas
Oh, I get what you're saying. My apologies. On Aug 14, 6:55 pm, R Gonet richard.go...@earthlink.net wrote: Right, but you were comparing it to the Nitto, which is heavier because it has the vertical portion that inserts into the head tube. The Ritchey and VO do not, but you then have to

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread Tim McNamara
On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Aaron Thomas wrote: If they succeed in getting the final build below 20 lbs, it would go some way toward demonstrating that lugged steel and lightweight bikes are not mutually exclusive categories, My steel 60 mg Ritchey road bike weighed under 20 lbs with a

[RBW] Re: Happily Pedaling Free (finally)

2009-08-14 Thread charlie
I have the touring pedals and like them fine with my Tevas but not for my skater shoes. I currently use Crank Brothers 50/50 pedals on one bike and inexpensive bear trap style cage pedals on my single speed. Actually the cheapies are the most grippy in wet weather but I have a few pins missing on

[RBW] Re: Southern California Riv Ride Sunday - Tour de San Diego 9:30am

2009-08-14 Thread David Estes
This sounds like it's going to be a beautiful ride, hope some folks can show. I'll be on my QB, which I don't ride enough! DE On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: So, this Sunday, there will be a meeting of the Southern California Rivendell Bicycle Appreciation

[RBW] Re: A Little Roadeo Preview - QA with GP

2009-08-14 Thread Bill M.
I'm guessing that the 3. pound weight is frame only. Silly- light carbon is now under 2 lb for the frame. Light carbon forks weigh ~350 gm, about 3.4 lb, vs ~1.5 lb for steel. That adds up to 2-3/4 lb lighter. IIRC, my 56 cm. Riv Road Std. frame and fork weigh around 6-1/2 pounds. My 56

[RBW] Re: Happily Pedaling Free (finally)

2009-08-14 Thread David Estes
The protruding teeth on the Sneaker Pedals do wear out over time. They get rounded down and then the pedal is kind of slippery. Mine are in this condition, and a foot has slipped a couple times. Wearing ether Vans or Tevas, not sure which. Still great pedals though! David On Fri, Aug 14,

[RBW] Re: Hillborne vs. Bombadil vs. Atlantis (vs. Surly LHT, but nevermind that...)

2009-08-14 Thread Kevin Turinsky
The Atlantis is an incredibly versatile machine. If you're ever going to ride it in the snow w/ wide rims, like 45mm SnowCats, go w/ the Atlantis instead of the SH. If you don't live anywhere near snow and snow-packed winter trails, then the SH is probably the ride for you. Here are some photos