[RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-03-01 Thread JoelMatthews
In any event, the Dominguez Rando clearly has curved fork blades. On Feb 28, 10:43 pm, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: To make this comparison you'd have to make the two forks of identical crowns, steer tubes, and the same headsets.  Flex involves those parts as well as the blade.

Re: [RBW] NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post

2010-03-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 01:56 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 16:32 -0800, Marty wrote: Got to see what all the fuss was about on Saturday morning. Granted, there was plenty there to be inspired by, but

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-03-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 23:43 -0500, Ken Freeman wrote: To make this comparison you'd have to make the two forks of identical crowns, steer tubes, and the same headsets. Flex involves those parts as well as the blade. Did you read the BQ article? -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post

2010-03-01 Thread JoelMatthews
Well, I do not swoon at over the top paint and add on, and certainly do not have racing saddles on any of my bikes. But my everyday bike is a custom from one of the builders at the show. As it is the bike I ride the most, I want it to be somewhat special. On Mar 1, 6:33 am, Steve Palincsar

Re: [RBW] NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post

2010-03-01 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Do you have any bikes in the fleet at present that were like the ones you saw that had you thinking? the capricorn 650b city-bike is one. Perfect errand-sized front rack, great balance very understated looks, imo. The

[RBW] Re: NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post

2010-03-01 Thread Scott G.
Dinucci won best lugged bike, simple long point lugs, very well executed. Tom Kellog had an elegantly detailed rando bike, well thought out version of a decaleur integrated into the rack, with a locking q/r. Not every lugged bike was channeling Hetchins, I look on the bikes as masterpieces in

[RBW] Re: NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post

2010-03-01 Thread Marty
Agree with your thoughts Scott. There was plenty of good stuff there. Real good stuff. I understand why a show environment demands a glam factor well above the bar, and I was pleased to see some builders including some of the more grounded examples of their work in the mix. It was a little bunched

[RBW] Re: FS: 170mm TA pro-vis cranks

2010-03-01 Thread johnb
sold. On Feb 28, 8:26 pm, johnb jbust...@gmail.com wrote: Bought from Velo-Orange last February. Two inner chain rings: 28 and 34. The set is a year old and probably has about 2000 miles on it (28 chain ring).  $225 + $10 to ship in CONUS. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post

2010-03-01 Thread It Depends
His city bike also won the people's choice award, or whatever they called the one that was voted by attendees. And it deserved the honor -- flamboyant, yes, but amazingly well designed and fabulously executed. I actually preferred his coupled 650B rando bike, but the city bike too was flawless.

[RBW] Re: NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post

2010-03-01 Thread johnb
It was my first NAHBS so maybe I was looking at it with different eyes. There were definitely some over the top bikes there and some racing bikes that did not interest me at all. But I got to see a lot of bikes that I have seen pictures of and heard described in BQ or on the web. ANT, Capricorn,

[RBW] Re: FS: Moustache Bar

2010-03-01 Thread Todd Olsen
this has been sold. thank you for the interest. On Feb 28, 5:22 pm, Todd Olsen todd_ol...@comcast.net wrote: photo here   http://www.flickr.com/photos/47986...@n04/4396941232/in/photostream/ I purchased these from another member of this list about a year ago. Decided to switch back to

Re: [RBW] NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post

2010-03-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 08:47 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Do you have any bikes in the fleet at present that were like the ones you saw that had you thinking? the capricorn 650b city-bike is one. Perfect errand-sized

Re: [RBW] NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post

2010-03-01 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 08:47 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Do you have any bikes in the fleet at present that were like the ones you saw that had you

Re: [RBW] Re: Cashmere Riding Jersey?

2010-03-01 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: They appear to make just about anything possible out of possum fur - even g-strings! With chamois? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-03-01 Thread Ken Freeman
No. On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 23:43 -0500, Ken Freeman wrote: To make this comparison you'd have to make the two forks of identical crowns, steer tubes, and the same headsets. Flex involves those parts as well as the

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-03-01 Thread Ken Freeman
I think the answer is yes, the force due to a bump universally tends to flex a bent fork tube. Ditto that it it tends more strictly to compress a straight one. But is the difference really big enough to be universally discernible? Clearly Jan thinks that for highly bent forks it is significant.

Re: [RBW] NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post

2010-03-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 11:19 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 08:47 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Do you have any bikes in the fleet

Re: [RBW] NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post

2010-03-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 11:19 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: And with those 3 in the fleet, you felt tempted to swap for something you saw at the show? Or did I misunderstand you? No - those bikes were the ones I saw at the show I'd be tempted to swap something I have for them. I have a

Re: [RBW] NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post

2010-03-01 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: You saw a Box Dog Pelican at the show?  Where?  I certainly missed that, and I went through the show about a dozen times. In the banjo bicycles booth. The BDB pelican is made my ahren rogers - he's the owner of banjo

[RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-03-01 Thread newenglandbike
I took another look at the article last night, and this is an (approximate) summary of what's in it: In the test, two of the forks compared had equivalent offsets and tubing, but one had a much lower, tighter bend than the other.The one with the much lower bend had much more flex or 'vertical

[RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-03-01 Thread newenglandbike
I took another look at the article last night, and this is an (approximate) summary of what's in it: In the test, two of the forks compared had equivalent offsets and tubing, but one had a much lower, tighter bend than the other.The one with the much lower bend had much more flex or 'vertical

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-03-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 10:06 -0800, newenglandbike wrote: I took another look at the article last night, and this is an (approximate) summary of what's in it: In the test, two of the forks compared had equivalent offsets and tubing, but one had a much lower, tighter bend than the other.

[RBW] Tire swapping (I've become a size queen)

2010-03-01 Thread William
I have an Ibis Forte road tandem that doesn't get used much. The tires are starting to look a little old in the sidewalls, so I decided to pull them off and use them on my Hillborne before they are too old to use. So, I did a three way tire swap. The 700x32 IRC 'Tandem' tires went on my

[RBW] FS/FT/WTB: 7 or 8cm stem

2010-03-01 Thread Esteban
I have a new, un-inserted 9cm Nitto Technomic (non-delux) that I'd love to trade out for a 7 (preferable) or 8cm Technomic or used Technomic delux (or any other Nitto). Our I'd just buy yours outright. My Protovelo with drops has me too stretched out with the 9 on there now. I also have a used

[RBW] Re: FS/FT/WTB: 7 or 8cm stem

2010-03-01 Thread Esteban
Sorry - my 9cm Technomic is 25.4. I'd seek the same. On Mar 1, 11:54 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I have a new, un-inserted 9cm Nitto Technomic (non-delux) that I'd love to trade out for a 7 (preferable) or 8cm Technomic or used Technomic delux (or any other Nitto).  Our I'd just buy

Re: [RBW] Tire swapping (I've become a size queen)

2010-03-01 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:48 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I have an Ibis Forte road tandem that doesn't get used much.  The tires are starting to look a little old in the sidewalls, so I decided to pull them off and use them on my Hillborne before they are too old to use.  So, I did a

[RBW] Re: Tire swapping (I've become a size queen)

2010-03-01 Thread William
Those Hetre's on the Bilenky tandem is exactly the bike that made me write this post. Great minds think alike. ;) I have a new set of red Hetre's here in my parts box screaming at me to pay off and pick up my Orange Bombadil frameset. On Mar 1, 11:57 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On

[RBW] Re: NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post

2010-03-01 Thread Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles
Actually, I think the judges agree that classic simplicity is best. After all, the Best of Show bike by Dave Wages really was a classic frame done in polished 953. At first glance it might have the appearance of Bling, but a closer look (which I had the pleasure to do first-hand) reveals a lot

[RBW] Re: NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post

2010-03-01 Thread JoelMatthews
I completely agree, simplicity and classic lines make a nice bike, hence my recent purchase from De Rosa in Italy I remember we discussed sizing a while back but did not know you went ahead and bought the De Rosa. Very nice. Very classic Italian look. Bet it rides like a dream. On Mar 1,

[RBW] Re: NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post

2010-03-01 Thread JoelMatthews
At first glance it might have the appearance of Bling, but a closer look (which I had the pleasure to do first-hand) reveals a lot more The race wheels distract, but if you just look at the frame, I agree, it has clean lines and good dimensions. On Mar 1, 2:54 pm, Bryan @ Renaissance

[RBW] Cross levers only on a moustache bar

2010-03-01 Thread nathan spindel
I'm wondering if any of you have tried using only cross (aka interrupter) levers on a moustache bar. How'd it work out? The look of standard road brake levers mounted horizontally on m'bars just rubs me the wrong way… they appear big, awkward, somewhat non-elegant. I imagine a set of silver cross

[RBW] ISO bar bag

2010-03-01 Thread Roger and Carolyn SKALLERUD
I have Baggins and Carradice seat bags and am searching for a handlebar bag in green canvas that will somewhat match, beausage OK, please reply off-line Roger Skallerud rcska...@msn.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Cross levers only on a moustache bar

2010-03-01 Thread rperks
I like the on the hoods position as an option when setting up m-bars, options are always good. I also have found non-aero levers to be better both for cable routing as well as looks with this style of bars. - Rob On Mar 1, 1:21 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering if any

[RBW] Re: Cross levers only on a moustache bar

2010-03-01 Thread Jim M.
I like to have the on the hoods position too. I've used the Shimano Tiagra aero levers that RBW sells. IMHO, more elegant than cross levers because they echo the shape of the m-bars whereas cross levers would stick out in an awkward (and possibly difficult to use) fashion. jim m wc ca On Mar 1,

[RBW] Re: Cross levers only on a moustache bar

2010-03-01 Thread William
Paul E-levers would probably work well right in tight at the clamp. On Mar 1, 1:21 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering if any of you have tried using only cross (aka interrupter) levers on a moustache bar. How'd it work out? The look of standard road brake levers mounted

Re: [RBW] Re: Cross levers only on a moustache bar

2010-03-01 Thread nathan spindel
Ah, I didn't realize the cross lever would likely stick out awkwardly – thanks Jim! Non-aero levers, eh Rob? I was eyeing the Gran Compe levers VO recently started selling… those + macchiato elkhide grip may make for a nice combo. Just having Paul E-levers sounds visually pleasing but really

[RBW] Re: Cross levers only on a moustache bar

2010-03-01 Thread Jim M.
Just to clarify, that's my opinion; it's not based on experience. Cross levers are designed for a straight section of bar, and the spot on m-bars where levers are usually mounted isn't straight. Perhaps if you put the levers on the outside of the bar, but I don't know how that might feel

[RBW] Re: Bombadil Auction

2010-03-01 Thread William
I hope you are right about giving folks ideas on how to set one up. The current bid is probably still below their cost on everything, not to mention zero dollars to SmileTrain. On Feb 26, 12:59 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I hope Riv doesn't take a bath on that bike.  I think it

RE: [RBW] Re: Cashmere Riding Jersey?

2010-03-01 Thread Steve Vesel
Don't forget possum / merino. Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 02:46:49 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: Cashmere Riding Jersey? From: george.millw...@bigpond.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Cashmere huh! Can't wait until you all discover alpaca, angora, mohair and camel. However, for real

Re: [RBW] Re: Cross levers only on a moustache bar

2010-03-01 Thread nathan spindel
The moustache bar will actually replace an albatross bar on this bike: http://bit.ly/49x75C I chose an albatross bar for that bike because I had a nasty lower back injury and thought an upright position would be more comfortable while I healed. I did find it comfy for the first 10 minutes of each

[RBW] Re: do quickbeams abound?

2010-03-01 Thread Will
If Andrew doesn't mind my tag-teaming off his message, I would say ditto to anyone considering unloading a 62-cm Quickbeam. (Thx Andrew). Will On Feb 27, 7:31 pm, neurodrum neurod...@gmail.com wrote: just wondering if anyone has a 58 cm quickbeam that is seeking a new home. google shows a

[RBW] Berthoud Racing Saddle. Now in leopard print!

2010-03-01 Thread John Ferguson
I just received a Berthoud racing saddle--I think one of the first in the US. Unfortunately, my excitement was a little, um, spoiled, when I opened the box and found this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/36397...@n06/4399493213/ Leopard print! If anyone wants the saddle, let me know...although

[RBW] Yes, the Sam Hillborne can be Sporty Too

2010-03-01 Thread Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles
Last week, we posted a touring version of the Sam Hillborne, this week we have the Sporty version: http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/ One special thing about this build is the NOS silver 2008 SRAM Rival drivetrain. And to make everything look classic really, the cranks

[RBW] Re: NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post

2010-03-01 Thread benzzoy
On Mar 1, 1:17 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: At first glance it might have the appearance of Bling, but a closer look (which I had the pleasure to do first-hand) reveals a lot more The race wheels distract, but if you just look at the frame, I agree, it has clean lines and

[RBW] Re: Yes, the Sam Hillborne can be Sporty Too

2010-03-01 Thread eflayer
since i am all about smooth paved roads and nothing heavier than either a small trunk bag or small saddle bag, i do indeed admire that build. nice bike. and oh the sin of those Vbrakes. On Mar 1, 6:38 pm, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote: Last week, we posted a

Re: [RBW] Re: NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post

2010-03-01 Thread Wade Vidal
that is one beautiful bike congrats - Original Message - From: usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 3:37 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post I completely agree, simplicity and

Re: [RBW] Re: Tire swapping (I've become a size queen)

2010-03-01 Thread cyclotourist
Our Co-Motion Double Espresso tandem, while having the best name in all bikedom, only fits about a 33-34mm 700c tire on the fork. Really bums me out. Glad to hear that your Ibis can fit a 37mm (barely)! I've been thinking of possibly doing a 650b conversion with ours, but the low BB would

[RBW] Re: Yes, the Sam Hillborne can be Sporty Too

2010-03-01 Thread Michael_S
ok I give up ... what is the unusual thing about the drivetrain... I'm just not up on SRAM. very nice build ('cept the brakes) and it's mostly non Shimano too ( except hubs I know, I know silver hubs are hard to find in 135mm except big $$ Mike On Mar 1, 7:22 pm, eflayer

Re: [RBW] Re: Tire swapping (I've become a size queen)

2010-03-01 Thread nathan spindel
…it could look something like this! http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/515613230/ -nathan On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:53 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Our Co-Motion Double Espresso tandem, while having the best name in all bikedom, only fits about a 33-34mm 700c tire on the

Re: [RBW] Re: Tire swapping (I've become a size queen)

2010-03-01 Thread cyclotourist
Yeah, that's what I'm hoping... of course I'm not-hoping as well as I doubt I could afford one! On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:07 PM, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: …it could look something like this! http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/515613230/ -nathan On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:53 PM,

Re: [RBW] Re: Tire swapping (I've become a size queen)

2010-03-01 Thread cyclotourist
Yeah, that's what I'm hoping... of course I'm not-hoping as well, as I doubt I could afford one! On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:07 PM, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: …it could look something like this! http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/515613230/ -nathan On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:53

[RBW] Re: do quickbeams abound? or a SimpleOne?

2010-03-01 Thread Michael_S
or... perhaps a SimpleOne? maybe we can entice GP to finalize the bike and order some for us patient, adoring Rivendell fans? I could use a 58 as well... how may others are awaiting the news? Mike On Mar 1, 5:59 pm, Will wpm...@gmail.com wrote: If Andrew doesn't mind my tag-teaming off his

[RBW] Re: NAHBS - Observations - Longish Post

2010-03-01 Thread usuk2007
Joel, Thanks. I ended up getting a 54 cm (c-c) frame as the seat tube length and standover height are the same as my 56cm Rambouillet, which fits perfectly. Of course the Neo Primato's horizontal top tube and lack of significant headtube extension mean that the front end is quite a bit lower than

Re: [RBW] Re: Tire swapping (I've become a size queen)

2010-03-01 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:10 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, that's what I'm hoping... of course I'm not-hoping as well as I doubt I could afford one! I'm beginning to think that a fillet-brazed or even a well-done tig-welded tandem (like the burley we have) would make for

[RBW] Chilly Hilly

2010-03-01 Thread awilliams53
A fine turnout (6000+) on the Chilly Hilly on Sunday, February 28. The tour circumnavigates Bainbridge Island in Washington, and several Rivendells were in attendance, including my Bleriot. Photos are here.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/awilliams53/sets/72157623529932852/ Andy -- You

[RBW] Re: Yes, the Sam Hillborne can be Sporty Too

2010-03-01 Thread Jeremy Till
Polished the SRAM Rival logo off the crank? On Mar 1, 6:38 pm, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote: Last week, we posted a touring version of the Sam Hillborne, this week we have the Sporty version: http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/ One

Re: [RBW] Re: Tire swapping (I've become a size queen)

2010-03-01 Thread cyclotourist
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:10 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, that's what I'm hoping... of course I'm not-hoping as well as I doubt I could afford one! I'm beginning to think that a fillet-brazed or

Re: [RBW] Chilly Hilly

2010-03-01 Thread Brian Hanson
It was a great ride! I only saw 1 other Riv near the end of the ride (an orange Hillborne), so we definitely need more faithfull in Seattle. I did just over 50 miles riding my AHH down from North Seattle. My camera battery died right away, so not much for photos, but I found out that I can do

[RBW] Keeping it Real

2010-03-01 Thread joyce_casey
At the beginning of the year several folks posted about their riding plans for the year. My goal is to do an S24O every month. In order to give me some accountability, I have begun posting accounts of these trips on the CrazyGuy site. Interestingly, after I posted my first trip I had about as

Re: [RBW] Chilly Hilly

2010-03-01 Thread cyclotourist
That looks like a fun ride! Good to see the turnout. Yeah Seattle, you need more Rivendells up there! On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: It was a great ride! I only saw 1 other Riv near the end of the ride (an orange Hillborne), so we definitely need more

[RBW] Re: Chilly Hilly

2010-03-01 Thread rcnute
There were a few on the SIR Populaire (scheduled for the same day). Ryan On Mar 1, 9:22 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: It was a great ride!  I only saw 1 other Riv near the end of the ride (an orange Hillborne), so we definitely need more faithfull in Seattle.  I did just over 50

RE: [RBW] Re: Yes, the Sam Hillborne can be Sporty Too

2010-03-01 Thread Joe Bartoe
Is it the Silver Friction barend shifters? Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:04:07 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: Yes, the Sam Hillborne can be Sporty Too From: mikeybi...@rocketmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com ok I give up ... what is the unusual thing about the drivetrain... I'm just

[RBW] Re: Tire swapping (I've become a size queen)

2010-03-01 Thread Michael_S
I have a 1995 USA built Tange steel Trek T200 tandem that will fit a 35mm nicely. I need to get some 37mm Pasela's and see if they would work as well. I put some Ruffy Tuffys on last summer and they are too harsh for the stoker. I think she would be happier with more cush back there! and I mean