[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-17 Thread michael
On Mar 15, 8:03 pm, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: not sure what the points of view are, but this guy, to me, is an hot air baloonfull of hot air. Not even considering his point of view about helmets, just how arrrogant he sounds/is:

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-17 Thread Ariel Bautista
Isn't the argument essentially circular though? Those against helmet- wearing argue so in an ultimate attempt to expand ridership and therefore strengthen the demand on cities to provide adequate infrastructure. Those who argue for helmet-wearing are simply addressing the reality that most roads

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-17 Thread Scott Postlewait
Thanks for the link Patrick! I rarely read BSNYC, but clicked on your link and was scrolling down at lunch, and in his recap of the Seattle Bicycle Expo there's a picture of my Rawland cSogn - wood fenders, black saddlebag, shellacked handlebar tape Scott what are the chances of that?

Re: [RBW] Tire size question... don't know where else to ask it.

2011-03-17 Thread omnigrid
I'll echo the notion that the ability to run wide tires is always a welcomed bonus, if even you do not have the intention. the option is a great thing to have. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.comwrote: I own a Bike Friday New World Tourist and have ridden

Re: [RBW] Re: First Rando of the season

2011-03-17 Thread robert zeidler
I'm actually originally from Guilford and while it's usually a bit milder down there that only meant it was 16 instead of the 12 in my neck of the woods. You went to Hand then. What year? On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:38 PM, bassandbike bassandb...@yahoo.com wrote: I have family near the coast in

[RBW] Helmets? Really?

2011-03-17 Thread CycloFiend
Man - I get stuck in work and class all day, and alluvasudden, we've got a helmet thread going Now, I do realize that it's a serious winter in most places, and there are some pretty soul-numbing issues going on in the world right now. So, maybe it's a calming distraction of sorts to hammer

[RBW] Re: First Rando of the season

2011-03-17 Thread bassandbike
I actually moved away, to Kentucky, before going to Hand (sadly...I always wanted to play football at Hand! Go Tigers!). I moved away in 1985, but get back up there twice a year at least. Still have many friends there. I went to Brown Middle School, though. I was in Guilford over Christmas.

Re: [RBW] Helmets? Really?

2011-03-17 Thread David Faller
Thanks for stepping in, Jim. The words Grant said or Grant wrote seems to throw the door wide open for all sorts of things that really don't fit the spirit of the list. On 3/17/2011 1:05 AM, CycloFiend wrote: Man - I get stuck in work and class all day, and alluvasudden, we've got a helmet

[RBW] Re: Helmets? Really?

2011-03-17 Thread Rick Houston
Jim, I'd like to second what you said: this was the nicest, most civil, thread on helmets I've ever read; to that end, let me add that whether one is for or against the topic, the commonality would seem to be that (1) we all care deeply about cycling; (2) we want more people to ride; and (3) we

[RBW] now they've done it. Campy canti's!!

2011-03-17 Thread Michael_S
I saw these today new Campy canti brakes... now I know what to save my money for. Look beautiful and they come in silver. And I can stop looking for vintage Campy OR canti's.( I have one set but need a second in case someone has one set and want to sell theirs?)

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Glad to spread light and happiness. Seriously, congratulations. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Scott Postlewait chsc...@drizzle.comwrote: Thanks for the link Patrick! I rarely read BSNYC, but clicked on your link and was scrolling down at lunch, and in his recap of the Seattle Bicycle Expo

Re: [RBW] now they've done it. Campy canti's!!

2011-03-17 Thread Eric Norris
... and duly reported at the Campy Only Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com --Eric N Sent from the iPad 2 On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: I saw these today new Campy canti brakes... now I know what to save my money for. Look beautiful and they

Re: [RBW] Re: Tire size question... don't know where else to ask it.

2011-03-17 Thread Rene Sterental
It's funny, the same thing happened to me when I first changed my carbon paradigm for the Rivendell steel/fit paradigm, and now see myself increasingly attracted to the Traveling Bike concept that is friendlier and more versatile than the SS system which I've had in the past. I had an SS coupled

Re: [RBW] Re: Tire size question... don't know where else to ask it.

2011-03-17 Thread CycloFiend
Hey there Mike - If you haven't already, I'd ping Tarik - he travels with a small folder and he's definitely your/my size. http://www.tariksaleh.com/ - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net on 3/17/11 7:08 AM, Mike at mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: There was a time when I thought BFs were

[RBW] Re: now they've done it. Campy canti's!!

2011-03-17 Thread Mike S
Pauls still beat these. On Mar 17, 12:17 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: ... and duly reported at the Campy Only Blog:http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com --Eric N Sent from the iPad 2 On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: I saw these today

[RBW] Re: First Rando of the season

2011-03-17 Thread brian feltovich
Uh, take it outside, boys. OT. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Lumpy Hetres

2011-03-17 Thread SteveF
I hate to say it but Panaracer's QC seems to be slipping a bit. There was a rash of sidewall bulges and failures in Pasela's not long ago. And lately many of the Panaracer-made tires I've bought had issues with running true and wobble free. I have had to date a Hetre, a Pasela TG, a

[RBW] The Cyclotrope : One of the best things I've ever seen :)

2011-03-17 Thread AmiSingh
http://vimeo.com/21016797 Riv-related content ... upright-style bar rider (i'm really stretching this, but wanted to share it with you!) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-17 Thread Mike S
Freedom of choice is what you got. Freedom from choice is what you want. - Devo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVGINIsLnqU On Mar 17, 12:07 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Glad to spread light and happiness. Seriously, congratulations. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Scott

[RBW] katy trail - Missouri Ride - Week of June 13th through 19th

2011-03-17 Thread Kelly Sleeper
I'm heading out on a week long ride from Kansas City to St Louis. Along the way I'm picking up people in Clinton and reaching Sedalia by June 13th. After the last train arrives we will be meandering back home in St Louis. This is self contained, take care of yourself, trip with friends.

[RBW] Re: The Cyclotrope : One of the best things I've ever seen :)

2011-03-17 Thread jinxed
Fantastic find! Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For

[RBW] Re: FS: Phil Rear Wheel + Many Saddles...

2011-03-17 Thread S.Cutshall
San Marco Regal is Sold. Brooks Swift Phil rear wheel still available. Thanks- -Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group,

[RBW] Re: now they've done it. Campy canti's!!

2011-03-17 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Cute, and they definitely have panache... But for stopping power, I'll be using $15 Tektro v-brakes :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe

[RBW] When is a bike to heavy?

2011-03-17 Thread MichaelH
OK, now that we have dispensed with helmets, allow me to raise another controversial topic. This is not like, when am I too heavy, which is easy right now. I have 4 bikes, well 6 really, but we wont go into those details. All four of them are around 62 cm and get ridden regularly - a 1988

[RBW] Re: now they've done it. Campy canti's!!

2011-03-17 Thread MichaelH
They certainly look like a good design, and if you want to use Campy levers it's probably a good choice. My experience suggests that Shimano brifters do not work well with cantis, even Shimano cantis. But I owe my life to Paul, so I'll be sticking to my neos, as well as they stick to my rims.

[RBW] Re: When is a bike to heavy?

2011-03-17 Thread Jim Cloud
With that kind of stable, I'd just be happy that I owned some very nice bikes. The Ebisu All Purpose, in particular, looks like a superb bike. I don't think weight is really that relevant for much of the riding that is done by recreational cyclists (as opposed to the racing weight wennies...).

Re: [RBW] When is a bike to heavy?

2011-03-17 Thread Kelly Sleeper
I believe there is more to than just weight. 3 lbs even 5 lbs isn't noticeable to most people. Notice the word most as there is always someone saying they can tell the difference when a water bottle filled. Anyway I thing tires, geometry, fit, and such will make a bike feel fast or slow more

Re: [RBW] When is a bike to heavy?

2011-03-17 Thread Curtis Schmitt
My Seven Alaris is 18 lbs and my Romulus is 27 lbs. I notice a huge difference, but not just in the weight. On Seven's customization scale, it's a 10 on drive chain rigidity and weight to performance so the frame is significantly heavier than a standard quality titanium frame. It's also a model

Re: [RBW] When is a bike to heavy?

2011-03-17 Thread David Faller
I think a bike is too heavy when you don't enjoy riding it and all you can blame that on is the weight. My Ram is the heaviest bike I own, and with rare exception, the only bike I ride. On 3/17/2011 5:54 PM, MichaelH wrote: OK, now that we have dispensed with helmets, allow me to raise

[RBW] Re: When is a bike to heavy?

2011-03-17 Thread charlie
Man...you guys are all riding bicycles that are too lightweight. My main ride is about 30 pounds with empty bottles and no rack or bag but I do have fenders and lights! Of course when I ride I take along extra food and clothing, camera, extra glasses, nearly everything I think I might need

[RBW] Re: When is a bike to heavy?

2011-03-17 Thread doug peterson
There's more to it than just gross tonnage. My wife has 2 bikes that weigh within a water bottle of each other. She claims the Atlantis feels much lighter, and she climbs noticebly faster on it. I'm happy to encourage that sort of thinking. My bike usually weighs around 30 lbs with Nitto big

[RBW] Re: When is a bike to heavy?

2011-03-17 Thread Michael_S
On Mar 17, 7:49 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: There's more to it than just gross tonnage.  My wife has 2 bikes that weigh within a water bottle of each other.  She claims the Atlantis feels much lighter, and she climbs noticebly faster on it.  I'm happy to encourage that sort of

Re: [RBW] When is a bike to heavy?

2011-03-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Oh good, another controversy to jump into. Herewith: 1. I imagine that heavy is said relative to rider weight, no? If a 17 lb bike is light for me, it would be simply fragile for a 250 pounder. 2. Ditto for the bikes purpose: a fixie gofast has a different standard than a touring or mountain

[RBW] Re: When is a bike to heavy?

2011-03-17 Thread Michael_S
to me each bike has a purpose... my new rando/fast bike is for pavement primarily and is the lightest. The Ram shod with Jack Browns is for mixed terrain rides with beefy rims it handles rough double track with aplomb. My '82 Claud Butler is a touring bike, racks, 531st tubing and soon 650B

[RBW] Re: When is a bike to heavy?

2011-03-17 Thread eflayer
i own an all steel Gunnar Sport, a coupled Rambouillet, a custom Rex with all carbon fork. poundage on those goes from a low of about 21.5 up to 24. for fun, i just built up a carbon Fisher Cronus; all carbon. for the first time i paid attention to lower weight parts; carbon bars, carbon

Re: [RBW] Re: When is a bike to heavy?

2011-03-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I agree; a significantly lighter bike (and don't ask me to define significantly -- I know it when I ride it) has virtues of its own and, therefore, its own kind of fun -- light wheels especially, when you climb. Of course, there are other bicycle qualities beside light weight (and that may even

[RBW] Re: When is a bike to heavy?

2011-03-17 Thread eflayer
the all carbon bike weighs 17.0 lbs. On Mar 17, 8:38 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I agree; a significantly lighter bike (and don't ask me to define significantly -- I know it when I ride it) has virtues of its own and, therefore, its own kind of fun -- light wheels especially,

Re: [RBW] Re: When is a bike to heavy?

2011-03-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I mistook the Rex figure for the carbon bike figure. 17 lb is more to be expected. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:54 PM, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: the all carbon bike weighs 17.0 lbs. On Mar 17, 8:38 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I agree; a significantly lighter bike

[RBW] Re: now they've done it. Campy canti's!!

2011-03-17 Thread Earl Grey
Certainly look lighter than the early 90's Campy wide profile cantis, http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc797-gernothuber0510.html but man have the aesthetics taken a hit, esp. with those awful logos (which presumably can be removed). I love my old Campy cantis, but I am buying Tektro 720s these

[RBW] Rivendell Atlantis

2011-03-17 Thread Khalid Mateen
Hello everyone: I am new to this forum and I have a question to ask about ordering an Atlantis. I have taken my PBH but I am no where near Walnut Creek California. I am on the east coast of the US and no where near a Rivendell Dealer. Can you tell me, your experience of bicycle fit when

[RBW] Paul Thumbies and front bags

2011-03-17 Thread bicyclebill
I watched with interest the recent thread regarding Thumbies and Silver Shifters. I have a different question: I am thinking about Thumbies with my Shimano 8-speed bar-ends. Is there any issue with routing the cables and a front bag? In my case, it's a VO Campaign bag with a stem mounted

[RBW] Atlantis sighting

2011-03-17 Thread hagna
I saw a guy on an Atlantis at about 17:15 on my way home from work, but I didn't get out of the car and stop him. I did pull over after I passed him to get another look at the bike. It looked good. After seeing so many mountain bikes with shocks I figured I'd never see someone on a riv bike

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Atlantis

2011-03-17 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Khalid Mateen krm2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone: I am new to this forum and I have a question to ask about ordering an Atlantis.  I have taken my PBH but I am no where near Walnut Creek California.  I am on the east coast of the US and no where near a