[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East - Full speed ahead!!!

2012-04-16 Thread ascpgh
Feet: I'm adding my neoprene booties if the prediction gets really damp. Too bulky to haul around daily, and a bit of a hassle to put on for a sprinkle. Hands: A wad of nitrile exam gloves, handy both for doing repairs in the absence of soap water and as a final barrier to wetness, even in

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East - Full speed ahead!!!

2012-04-16 Thread ascpgh
Whoops, forgot to add the drastic difference between the quality of the GAP surface versus the CO Canal toe path. The quality of the crushed limestone bed of the GAP is so much better than the western end of the C O, it is able to drain the heaviest steady downpour and presents a stable riding

[RBW] For Sale 51 cm Atlantis 1985 19 1/2 Stumpjumper

2012-04-16 Thread Charlie
Atlantis I posted the following during the winter - the only response I had involved over seas shipping which I didn't want to deal with. I purchased this bike from Rivendell 3-4 years ago and never built it up. It was somewhat of an impulse purchase – only because of the color. I was never

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East - Full speed ahead!!!

2012-04-16 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Thanks, Andy. Checked the forecast today, and it seems to be improving slightly from the (dire) forecast of 2 days ago... By Wed we should have a pretty good idea what we'll be facing, but it's good to know the riding surface (most important) should handle any rain we might get. Bobby On Apr

[RBW] Re: Poster Update - Twice as Fun! Hi Res on the way!

2012-04-16 Thread RJM
Great posters. The headtube badge one is really cool. I think I have a really nice place at work to hang one.. On Sunday, April 15, 2012 10:10:55 PM UTC-5, Marty wrote: Troubles with my internet connection today prevented me from uploading a Hi Res file for each of the new posters. I

[RBW] Re: Bi-State s36o... Cascadia Style

2012-04-16 Thread Mike
Oh man that looks like a good time! GPNF is a fantastic place for bike camping, especially if you're willing to go long. If you get the time later in the year consider trying to go for a couple of days so you can take in some of the quiet spectacular FS roads that wind their way through Gifford. I

[RBW] Re: Bi-State s36o... Cascadia Style

2012-04-16 Thread Mike
Hey, what was the mileage out to the campsite? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[RBW] Platrack In Back

2012-04-16 Thread Peter Pesce
Inspired by the front/rear load discussion in another thread, I gave this a try over the weekend: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ppesce/sets/72157629466236026/ Worked better than I thought. -Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-16 Thread pam
More detail - the chain and cassette were new last May from Rivendell. I've ridden about 2700 miles and I just learned about keeping the chain clean so I understood I needed a new chain. The new chain does have a master link. If the cassette is worn, do I replace the whole thing? I've only

Re: [RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-16 Thread Peter Morgano
Only skipping in smallest cog makes me think it is a deraileur adjustment, maybe they knocked it out of whack a bit on the install. Did you try adjusting the tension back there? I dont know your level of expertise but if you havent done this kind of thing before just remember to go slow and make

[RBW] Re: Platrack In Back

2012-04-16 Thread William
That's slick! On Monday, April 16, 2012 8:18:14 AM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote: Inspired by the front/rear load discussion in another thread, I gave this a try over the weekend: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ppesce/sets/72157629466236026/ Worked better than I thought. -Pete in CT -- You

[RBW] Re: Done talking myself into like the moustache.

2012-04-16 Thread Damian
Scotty, I'm sorry I didn't get back on this one earlier - was away for Easter. I guess the suggestion is moot now but may be useful for others. Try turning your moustache bars upside down. That's how I have mine. I tilt them so that the couple of inches that this raises them means I don't have

[RBW] Re: Bi-State s36o... Cascadia Style

2012-04-16 Thread Smitty
39 miles from the Parkrose Transit Center. Cue sheet, map and elevation profile here http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1076995. Yeah, it was good to meet you last week. I'm game to get together for a ride or 2. Thanks for the link to your GP adventure. I've spent the last several years hiking

[RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-16 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
If it is the smallest cog only, then the stiff link hypothesis has a point in its favor, as the stiff link will be most obvious on the smallest cog, which has the tightest curvature. You can generally buy a small cog for your cassette if it turns out to be worn. Seems unlikely, because most

[RBW] JOIN THE NATIONAL BIKE CHALLENGE

2012-04-16 Thread tdusky
http://www.endomondo.com/campaign/national Notice the photo of the Sam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/y-h0lK53awkJ. To post to this

[RBW] Re: Bi-State s36o... Cascadia Style

2012-04-16 Thread Mike
That's great that the mileage wasn't too heavy. I may have to make a day trip out there to check it out. Yeah, there's lots of great stuff to explore outside of Portland. These two brevet routes would make great overnight rides for anyone welling to do 2 long days in the saddle.

[RBW] Re: One way to shorten a Honjo fender (Fixed, kinda.)

2012-04-16 Thread Manuel Acosta
Little brother took a hammer to it. He had some quality hammer time with the rear fender. Before: http://flic.kr/p/bM6xT6 After: http://flic.kr/p/byYJ7U -Manny On Friday, April 13, 2012 10:11:13 AM UTC-7, William wrote: U shaped bike rack is genius. Clearly you need something that is the

[RBW] Re: What is the best 28-30 mm 700c tire for fast riding on pavement?

2012-04-16 Thread Ryan Ray
Iv'e been meaning to ask this same question. I wish there was an Ultremo DD in 28 or a Kojak in 28. I'm thinking of going down to 25 for the fender and tire choices but at 6-6 200 I probably will get 28 Pasela TGs (folding). I wish they had a no tread option. Finding consensus on tires is

[RBW] Re: What is the best 28-30 mm 700c tire for fast riding on pavement?

2012-04-16 Thread franklyn
There is a Kojak in 28. They come OEM on some bikes, but Schwalbe does not sell it retail. If anyone is interested, I do have one new 700cx28mm Kojak that I am willing to let go for pretty cheap. Franklyn On Monday, April 16, 2012 10:55:56 AM UTC-7, HappyCamper wrote: Iv'e been meaning to

[RBW] CicLAvia ride report

2012-04-16 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
In hindsight, the SoCal contingent should have got together for the CicLAvia http://www.ciclavia.org/yesterday. It was FANTASTIC! For those that have not heard about it, Los Angeles blocks off ~10 miles of city streets through some of the most interesting and busiest parts of town. Then

Re: [RBW] What is the best 28-30 mm 700c tire for fast riding on pavement?

2012-04-16 Thread robert zeidler
Fir that matter, +1 on the Challenge PR's. On Sunday, April 15, 2012, Jim M. wrote: I like the Schwalbe Ultremo. Very fast, light, and so far, no flats in the first 1,000 miles. jim m wc ca On Sunday, April 15, 2012 9:47:12 AM UTC-7, David T. wrote: What is the best 28-30 mm 700c tire

[RBW] Re: What is the best 28-30 mm 700c tire for fast riding on pavement?

2012-04-16 Thread Ryan Ray
If you have a pair I'll take them :) - Ryan On Monday, April 16, 2012 11:03:07 AM UTC-7, franklyn wrote: There is a Kojak in 28. They come OEM on some bikes, but Schwalbe does not sell it retail. If anyone is interested, I do have one new 700cx28mm Kojak that I am willing to let go

[RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-16 Thread Lynne Fitz
Check your chainrings. That was the problem I had, once. Replaced the chain. Replaced the cassette. Finally took it into the shop. Head mechanic: did no one look at your chainrings? Bleriot's chainrings (13500+ mi) are starting to look suspect, but nothing is skipping... yet. Lynne On Apr

Re: [RBW] Bi-State s36o... Cascadia Style

2012-04-16 Thread Norman Bone
Nice pix bro. Did you take a tent or some other shelter? -Norm From: Smitty 54ca...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 9:01 PM Subject: [RBW] Bi-State s36o... Cascadia Style In case you haven't looked at a map

[RBW] Re: Poster Update - Twice as Fun!

2012-04-16 Thread Peter Pesce
Love the head badge poster! On Sunday, April 15, 2012 3:25:15 PM UTC-4, Marty wrote: My recent post announcing the Rivendell Model poster was a big hit. Nearly 1,000 views to date, and lots of nice feedback. Some of you asked if I could print some to sell, and the short answer is yes. But

[RBW] Re: What is the best 28-30 mm 700c tire for fast riding on pavement?

2012-04-16 Thread Aaron Schmidt
No love for Conti Gatorskins? I've been riding these for years in 25, 28 and 32. No complaints! Well, sort of. I want to try something new but can't bring myself to fix what ain't broken. I'm definitely intrigued by the Cerfs and JBs. On Apr 15, 9:47 am, David T. davidtren...@yahoo.ca wrote:

[RBW] Re: Poster Update - Twice as Fun!

2012-04-16 Thread Zack
sweet! On Sunday, April 15, 2012 3:25:15 PM UTC-4, Marty wrote: My recent post announcing the Rivendell Model poster was a big hit. Nearly 1,000 views to date, and lots of nice feedback. Some of you asked if I could print some to sell, and the short answer is yes. But wait! What you

[RBW] FS: Rivendell parts, non-Rivendell bikes, and more

2012-04-16 Thread David Sprunger
Basement Clean-Out Marital Harmony Sale I have some things that will go to ebay, but I thought I'd offer them here first. Thanks for looking, David Sprunger Fargo, ND PARTS (US shipping included): Nitto big rear rack –size large: $140 Rack was mounted on 64cm Quickbeam, so mounting hardware

[RBW] Re: A Gift for the Bunch

2012-04-16 Thread dougP
Marty: Very cool indeed! But of course, someone has to quibble, so it may as well be me. The Atlantis doesn't have a rear rack! How can this be? Mine feels naked without one; of course, its never had fenders, so I guess that evens things out. Nice work. I know the group will enjoy this;

[RBW] pre-ordered a blue Sam Hillborne a few minutes ago

2012-04-16 Thread cbone97
Just wanted to share the joy. My first Riv and my first bike in a long while (since mountain biking in college about 12-13 years ago). Late last year I was looking hard at the Hunq but at a PBH of 87.5, felt I was on the fence between sizes and couldn't commit. The 56 Sam should be perfect and I

[RBW] Re: Rambouillet appretiation

2012-04-16 Thread Michael Hechmer
Thanks JL. The Rambouillet has got to be amongst the very best production road frames ever offered. Great for long days in the saddle on paved or dirt roads. It combines the exhilaration of a sports car with the comfort of a grand touring car. That's what it was made for. I run mine with

[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-16 Thread cm
When I was at Riv I was told that the tubeset on the larger AHH and Rodeo were basically the same and the differences were in clearance and geometry. If true, I would think the weight would be about the same too. Cheers, cm On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:26:07 PM UTC-5, Michael_S wrote:

[RBW] WTT Albatross Bars / Dirt Drop Bars / Selle Anatomica

2012-04-16 Thread Taco Truck
I have one set of Alum Albatross bars, on set of Nitto Dirt Drops, and a Selle Anatomica for trade. The bars have been mounted and then removed. Like new except for mounting once and storage. Looking for a 46 cm Soba, Dream or Noodle in similar condition. Also looking for a Brooks B17 Champion

[RBW] Re: fs: Brooks B17 saddle in green - beautiful shape!

2012-04-16 Thread Eric Wolforth
SOLD! On Apr 11, 12:37 am, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote: Brooks B17 saddle w/ copper rivets copper plated rails and it's GREEN! I purchased this to bring out the British Racing green on my Indy Fab but it just looked wrong. I mounted it on my bike but never road w/ it. The saddle is

[RBW] Re: Riv Swiss Army Knife

2012-04-16 Thread peech1...@yahoo.com
that's the same knife I picked up after I'd graduated from college in 1979 and had an actual job. paid like 5 dollars. still got it. a great knife. tim petersen On Apr 12, 1:24 pm, Kris kkjellqu...@gmail.com wrote: Am I dreaming or wasn't there a Swiss Army Knife in the riv catalog for a

[RBW] Re: Specialized Sequoia

2012-04-16 Thread El Sapo
It's a great bike. I've had a lot of fun on mine. I was able to solve the seatpost / Brooks saddle issue by getting the SR MTE 100 adjustable setback seatpost in that weird size. I also put a riv stem to get the bars up above the saddle. The 32 tires just fit. Doubt that you could fit those and

[RBW] Re: Specialized Sequoia

2012-04-16 Thread pruckelshaus
Yeah, that's one of my grail bikes, and the first frame that I built used a very similar geometry to the Sequoia. Tim Neenan, the guy who designed the original bike, is making them again - http://www.lighthousecycles.com/lighthouse-sequoia/ On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 9:37:52 AM UTC-4,

Re: [RBW] Nitto Lugged Seatpost, Nitto Periscopa and More For Sale

2012-04-16 Thread David Blessing
Hi, peter. David Blessing, here again. Why don't you send me the tires with the seat post? I can paypal you the $40. Thanks. david On Apr 16, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Peter Morgano wrote: Hey all no bites locally on the tires so wanted to see if anyone wanted the Michelins shipped. They retail

[RBW] Re: What is the best 28-30 mm 700c tire for fast riding on pavement?

2012-04-16 Thread Michael Hechmer
Great Question. It's the same question I posted at the end of the Where does the Rambouillet fit into the Rivendell Line Thread. It must haven't gotten lost in the shuffle. I need new tires for my Ram, so I'm tuned in to this question. But it depends what you mean by best. Jan Heine

RE: [RBW] Re: What is the best 28-30 mm 700c tire for fast riding on pavement?

2012-04-16 Thread Joe Bartoe
I commuted and did double centuries on the Grand Bois Cerf green labels for about a year. I had great luck with them. Light, fast, and pretty puncture resistant. For me. Other people may differ in their opinion, but I find that if I unweight my saddle going over stuff, keep and eye out and

[RBW] Re: CicLAvia ride report

2012-04-16 Thread Smitty
This brings a smile to my face. On Monday, April 16, 2012 11:06:30 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: In hindsight, the SoCal contingent should have got together for the CicLAvia http://www.ciclavia.org/yesterday. It was FANTASTIC! For those that have not heard about it, Los Angeles

Re: [RBW] Nitto Lugged Seatpost, Nitto Periscopa and More For Sale

2012-04-16 Thread David Blessing
no problem. I won't get to paypal until this evening. No hurry at all. Too busy with work to ride. Thanks.david On Apr 16, 2012, at 2:52 PM, David Blessing wrote: Hi, peter. David Blessing, here again. Why don't you send me the tires with the seat post? I can paypal you the $40.

[RBW] Re: Bi-State s36o... Cascadia Style

2012-04-16 Thread Smitty
Mike -- I was looking at Timothy Lake on the topo map and wondering about it. Old brevet cue sheets... good idea for route info + ideas. Norm -- I brought a hammock. At first I started to pack a tent but the poles were problematic to pack. --Andy On Sunday, April 15, 2012 9:01:21 PM UTC-7,

[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East - Full speed ahead!!!

2012-04-16 Thread Minh
Ha! I've got on the full fenders + mudflaps, hopefully that's enough to ward off the rain. Also packing an extra sweater! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: FS: Arkel bags and Dapper Dan grips

2012-04-16 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Arkel Tail Rider is gone still available are Arkel Big Bar Bag Dapper Dan light Dapper Dan dark I should clarify that my desired form of dollar payment is an RBW * electronic* gift certificate. I realize now I had not specified which kind of gift certificate. My bad. Yours, Thomas Lynn

[RBW] Re: Specialized Sequoia

2012-04-16 Thread LF
On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 9:37:52 AM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote: I have an opportunnity to buy a 60cm Specialized Sequoia ($650) in almost new condition. My interweb research has let me know that these bikes have a dedicated following. I was wondering if anyone here has one and could

[RBW] Re: CicLAvia ride report

2012-04-16 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
That's pretty much how I spent Sunday! On Monday, April 16, 2012 11:06:30 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: In hindsight, the SoCal contingent should have got together for the CicLAvia http://www.ciclavia.org/yesterday. It was FANTASTIC! For those that have not heard about it, Los

[RBW] 64cm Orange Quickbeam FS in LA

2012-04-16 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
FYI tall people: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/bik/2961803201.htmlDon't know anything about it, no affiliation, etc, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: 64cm Orange Quickbeam FS in LA

2012-04-16 Thread Jim M.
From the ad: I have become dissatisfied with it, just bored really and wish to purchase another bike. IMHO, when you're bored with a Quickbeam, you're bored with life. jim m wc ca On Monday, April 16, 2012 3:44:33 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: FYI tall people:

Re: [RBW] Re: 64cm Orange Quickbeam FS in LA

2012-04-16 Thread Peter Morgano
Agreed, I dont think I would want to have a beer with this dude, might be too depressing. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: From the ad: I have become dissatisfied with it, just bored really and wish to purchase another bike. IMHO, when you're bored with a

[RBW] Re: 64cm Orange Quickbeam FS in LA

2012-04-16 Thread newenglandbike
Just had a nice ride in the Chestnut Hill woods on my 64cm orange beam. I couldn't imagine getting bored of it. On Monday, April 16, 2012 6:44:33 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: FYI tall people: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/bik/2961803201.htmlDon't know anything about it,

[RBW] Re: 64cm Orange Quickbeam FS in LA

2012-04-16 Thread William
It's kind of like when Ethan Hawke got tired of Uma Thurman, or when Hugh Grant became dissatisfied with Elizabeth Hurley. I'm like Dude, how stupid are you? What the heck is the matter with you?! On Monday, April 16, 2012 4:44:29 PM UTC-7, newenglandbike wrote: Just had a nice ride in the

[RBW] Re: One way to shorten a Honjo fender (Fixed, kinda.)

2012-04-16 Thread William
STOP! Hammertime! On Monday, April 16, 2012 10:29:53 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Little brother took a hammer to it. He had some quality hammer time with the rear fender. Before: http://flic.kr/p/bM6xT6 After: http://flic.kr/p/byYJ7U -Manny On Friday, April 13, 2012 10:11:13 AM

[RBW] Re: New chain skipping

2012-04-16 Thread William
I needed a small chainring when I did my winter overhaul on the Hilsen. New chain and the hooky teeth wanted to pull it up like precursor to chainsuck. They were pretty sharkfin-ish. On Monday, April 16, 2012 11:48:18 AM UTC-7, Lynne Fitz wrote: Check your chainrings. That was the

Re: [RBW] Re: 64cm Orange Quickbeam FS in LA

2012-04-16 Thread cyclotourist
Thurston Moore and Kim Gordon! On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:49 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: It's kind of like when Ethan Hawke got tired of Uma Thurman, or when Hugh Grant became dissatisfied with Elizabeth Hurley. I'm like Dude, how stupid are you? What the heck is the matter with

[RBW] New SimpleOne

2012-04-16 Thread EricP
Wasn't able to resist any longer. Snagged a 60cm SimpleOne a week ago. Frame arrived today. Spent the afternoon putting it together. Yes, Rivendell's packing is as good as possible. Had to work to get it out of the box. Then spent a good chunk of the afternoon putting the bike together.

[RBW] Re: Bi-State s36o... Cascadia Style

2012-04-16 Thread doc
Great pics, great trip. 'wish I had a bagpiping unicyclist or two in my neighborhood. For tent poles, wrap them in an old pair of socks and lash them to your top tube. doc On Apr 16, 4:51 pm, Smitty 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: Mike -- I was looking at Timothy Lake on the topo map and wondering

Re: [RBW] New SimpleOne

2012-04-16 Thread John Blish
Absolutely beautiful, Eric. Nice job. Congratulations. Many happy rides lie ahead. Thanks for the pics. -jb On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:55 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Wasn't able to resist any longer. Snagged a 60cm SimpleOne a week ago. Frame arrived today. Spent the afternoon

Re: [RBW] New SimpleOne

2012-04-16 Thread Dan Abelson
Eric, Enjoy you new Simple One. For fenders on my Quickbeam, I have Planet Bike Cascadia with the quick release in the back (I don't think that they use to come with a front quick release but they do now and you can order an extra quick release for the rear directly from Planet Bike). Dan

[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne

2012-04-16 Thread ted
I have SKS longboards. I spaced the rear from the kick stand plate so that with Jack Browns the wheel will just go to the front of the dropout slot. The rear clearance is enough to just get the wheel in and out with the tire inflated. No quick release. I like em a lot. Never used the Berthoud

[RBW] Slickersack Improvement

2012-04-16 Thread Smitty
I've been using a Slickersack on and off for a couple months. One of the reasons I don't use it sometimes is that it can't be easily put back on the bike when it's full of stuff. The strap/snap configuration it comes with is easy to remove. And it's easy to install if the bag... er... um...

[RBW] Re: Slickersack Improvement

2012-04-16 Thread Allan in Portland
Very nice. I'm looking forward to seeing it in person. -Allan On Monday, April 16, 2012 6:22:59 PM UTC-7, Smitty wrote: I've been using a Slickersack on and off for a couple months. One of the reasons I don't use it sometimes is that it can't be easily put back on the bike when it's full

Re: [RBW] Slickersack Improvement

2012-04-16 Thread Peter Morgano
Wow, that is impressive. I doubt we have a chandlery in brooklyn which is odd when you think about the docks here but might look into this upgrade this summer if I get some spare time. On Apr 16, 2012 9:23 PM, Smitty 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using a Slickersack on and off for a

[RBW] Re: 64cm Orange Quickbeam FS in LA

2012-04-16 Thread rob markwardt
...Mickey Rooney and Ava Gardner. I think Ava got bored... Ava G;Wikipedia; marriages. I still think Rooney would be a good bike name. On Apr 16, 5:10 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Thurston Moore and Kim Gordon! On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:49 PM, William

[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne

2012-04-16 Thread charlie
Eric..I used the standard SKS (because I had them) then added my own uber long rubber mudflaps that allow the back wheel easier removal since they easily flip out of the way on the rear and the front goes nearly to the ground making for a super dry ride on wet pavement. I have metal fenders on

[RBW] Slickersack Improvement

2012-04-16 Thread Peter Pesce
Excellent upgrade. I've been perturbed by that very problem on my SlickerSack. I was thinking even buttons would be better than those dang snaps sometimes. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion

[RBW] Re: Slickersack Improvement

2012-04-16 Thread William
100x better than the velcro I would have moved to. Time to put that on the DIY to-do list. On Monday, April 16, 2012 6:22:59 PM UTC-7, Smitty wrote: I've been using a Slickersack on and off for a couple months. One of the reasons I don't use it sometimes is that it can't be easily put

[RBW] Re: Bi-State s36o... Cascadia Style

2012-04-16 Thread Mike
The ride up to and around Timothy Lake is pretty awesome. I've camped there twice and it's nice enough but there's tons of folks up there in RVs with generators going and making noise. I have no idea why they even left home! Camping along the Clackamas River is really nice. Lots of camp sites