[RBW] Re: Podcast of interest: The Gospel According to St Grant

2012-12-12 Thread Tom Harrop
Thanks for posting, I enjoyed that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GOs1kRh2Kc4J. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing

2012-12-12 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Interesting... A Sam was the direction I was going in when first considering buying a Riv. Test rides at RivHQ put me on a Homer 'cause I was between Sam sizes. Wonder if the new sizing would have caused a different outcome. --Andy On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:48:18 PM UTC-8, rex wrote:

[RBW] Re: Why all the miles?

2012-12-12 Thread charlie
To quote from a Grant podcast as best as I can recollect.Ask yourself, would I ride these super long rides if I could not talk about them or brag in any way about them to anyone? Finally, Jan has adapted to super long rides or he must be an alienhowever I like his most recent bicycle

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing

2012-12-12 Thread Matt Beebe
This is a good strategy imho.I've often thought it would be cool if they alternated between 54,58,62 and 52,56,60, etc. from year to year (or two years) for the models with sparser size options. On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:48:18 PM UTC-5, rex wrote: hi all on the

Re: [RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-12 Thread Joe Bernard
Due to various job/life situations, I haven't ridden near as much as I would have liked in the past year. If it weren't for the Just Ride philosophy GP established starting in the latter days of Bridgestone, I probably woudn't have ridden at all. I would have believed that if I didn't have

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice on a possible Sam purchase for a new Riv buyer

2012-12-12 Thread Bruce Herbitter
That's exactly the point, isn't it? Makes great sense. On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Chris Burgess cscottburg...@gmail.comwrote: A bike that can go fast but does not look like it needs to (if that's makes any sense) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Neck warming, fin.

2012-12-12 Thread Eric Platt
Hmm, my GMail must have burped, this only showed up today. Looks like Gore no longer makes the gloves I have. Look closest to the Universal model, but these are padded in the palm and more knit material on the back. Not totally windproof, but good to a touch below 30. Then will use the MUSA

Re: [RBW] Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-12 Thread James Warren
Yes! Hit the nail on the head. That's all I need to see on this topic. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 10, 2012, at 2:19 PM, soapscum smula...@gmail.com wrote: His criticism of the book is based on a lack of attention to details of those things the book is specifically NOT about. Brilliant. It's

Re: [RBW] Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-12 Thread numbnuts
Hey All, Just for the sake of clarity, I am the OP and the only other post on this particular subject/thread from me was the very first one in which I shared the review of JR that 'george the cyclist' had written. So, not only did I not make mention of anything relating to cannabis, the

[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-12 Thread Ron Mc
I enjoy reading Grant's copy - old Bridgestone cats are a hoot. Style is part of it, and opinions are the rest. After all that, keeping alive the timelessness of good bicycles is important. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/araleigh003-1.jpg In

[RBW] Re: Podcast of interest: The Gospel According to St Grant

2012-12-12 Thread Christian
With all the discussion over why the long miles it might be worth it to some to listen to their 2 part show on the 2011 running of Paris-Brest-Paris. Another great show. On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 2:59:56 AM UTC-5, Tom Harrop wrote: Thanks for posting, I enjoyed that. -- You

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing

2012-12-12 Thread Garth
That's good news ... I think lol. 60cm is too short of TT for me ... 64cm is a bit too tall for standover height ... so hopefully the 62cm will have a 62-63cm TT . Then I could buy one :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

Re: [RBW] Re: What's that tool Mark's using?

2012-12-12 Thread Steven Frederick
Dremels are fun. I can screw something up sooo much faster with one! They're like computers that way Steve Frederick, E.L. MI. On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 1:26 AM, John Blish jbl...@gmail.com wrote: You will probably find other uses as I am sure you realized. It makes cutting housing when

[RBW] Re: Why all the miles?

2012-12-12 Thread Mike
On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 12:08:26 AM UTC-8, charlie wrote: To quote from a Grant podcast as best as I can recollect.Ask yourself, would I ride these super long rides if I could not talk about them or brag in any way about them to anyone? I remember Grant had a blog post about

[RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?

2012-12-12 Thread Matthew J
I vote for Honjos with Berthoud hardware and DIY rubber flaps. +1. Not a fan of hammered at all, but I do like the smooth Honjos. Honjo hardware though is a pain, and IMO distracts from the clean lines of the bike. If Berthoud hardware works on your set up, a great choice. Mike Kone -

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing

2012-12-12 Thread Dan McNamara
If the strategy is the same as the mixte - which did change size this year - the c-t seat tube gets shorter but the tt (virtual or otherwise) stays the same. I went through this with my SO's Betty earlier this year. The 48 was just too small and she was bottoming out the seat post on the 52

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing

2012-12-12 Thread Peter Morgano
So the 51 and 55 will be 650b? I like the idea of a mid-sized bike in 650b, defintely would expand the range of riders that way. Dont get me wrong the AHH is beautiful, having owned a couple but at almost half the price getting someone on a mid-sized 650b frame would be sweet. On Wed, Dec 12,

[RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?

2012-12-12 Thread Mike
The first metal fenders I ever used were Berthouds from the local bike shop. They actually went on easy enough and worked well. I put them on my Hilsen yet it is now sporting SKS. While the coverage isn't as good, the SKS allow for a larger tired. My radnonneuring bike sports VO fenders and

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing

2012-12-12 Thread eflayer
wonder if double top tubes will be a part of the new sizing strat? On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:48:18 PM UTC-8, rex wrote: hi all on the description of the sam hillborne it says: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing: 51cm, 55cm, 58cm, and 62cm will replace the above sizes. The

[RBW] Re: Why all the miles?

2012-12-12 Thread Patrick in VT
On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:08:26 AM UTC-5, charlie wrote: To quote from a Grant podcast as best as I can recollect.Ask yourself, would I ride these super long rides if I could not talk about them or brag in any way about them to anyone? The answer would be a resounding yes for

[RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?

2012-12-12 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Yes, the hammered fenders ARE beautiful.. For your Stumpy, I think fluted would also look worthy. DO post pics... that's a beautiful bike. BB On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:20:25 PM UTC-5, William wrote: I'm in the market for some metal fenders. If you could get a particular model of

Re: [RBW] Re: Why all the miles?

2012-12-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 06:09 -0800, Mike wrote: I remember Grant had a blog post about that earlier this year. I sent him an email saying that while I frequently engaged in rides of 80+ miles a lot of this has to do with the fact that I don't drive. I live in Portland, OR and if I want to check

Re: [RBW] Re: Why all the miles?

2012-12-12 Thread Peter Morgano
I wish I had both the conditioning and the time to ride 50 miles at a clip. I can usually escape for 20 milers, though and it is refreshing to clear your head and just focus on the ride instead of all the other crap in your daily life so I can see doing more at a time one day. On Wed, Dec 12,

[RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?

2012-12-12 Thread Michael
I'd Boeshield the inside of steel rims. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wSkN4Xo8xScJ. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Why all the miles?

2012-12-12 Thread Mike
At a certain fitness level (in terms of both overall training for distance) rides in the 80-100 mile range are simply ordinary rides, Exactly. And I would add, I don't do any specific training for randonneuring. I don't do intervals. I don't have set training schedules where all my

Re: [RBW] Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-12 Thread jimD
+1 And for myself, no matter what Grant writes, if I agree or disagree, I thoroughly enjoy how he writes. -JimD On Dec 11, 2012, at 3:59 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to stay away from this thread, but this post makes me speak. I haven't read the book, but I've read

[RBW] Re: All-Rounder for sale

2012-12-12 Thread Chris
Oh this is great. I have a PBH of 88.9. Is this frame too small for me? On Monday, December 10, 2012 12:24:01 PM UTC-8, Mojo wrote:

[RBW] Re: Why all the miles?

2012-12-12 Thread Jan Heine
On Dec 11, 9:53 pm, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Base on Jan's post, it sounds like riding a light, fast tire on a Rando would be better than puncture protected heavier tires due to fasterness of tire and making the ride easier? I wouldn't mind having to change a flat on a Rando as

Re: [RBW] Re: All-Rounder for sale

2012-12-12 Thread Steven Frederick
Real looker for sure. The specs say mountain bike, to me rather than all'rounder, or at least B-stone XO-inspired. I'd love to add it to my fleet and it would fit me but there are currently other demands on my limited discretionary funds. Steve, EL, MI. On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Michael

[RBW] Re: All-Rounder for sale

2012-12-12 Thread Joe Bernard
It has a long toptube in relation to the seattube - MTB low-standover style - so you need to judge based on the toptube. At my 80ish PBH the frame is technically within range, but certainly not with that stem and dropbars. As currently set up, it may fit you. Joe Bernard On Wednesday,

[RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?

2012-12-12 Thread Michael
Sorry, I mean fenders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Pi5p_AV6GV4J. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-12 Thread numbnuts
Hey All, Grant his the courage to speak his mind. I like this, but it almost ensures that any one person will not like everything Grant says. That includes myself. The one recurring thing I hear inside my head while reading something from Grant is that he loves bikes as much as I do. That does

[RBW] Re: Homemade Accessories for Bikes

2012-12-12 Thread Earl Grey
I haven't made anything from scratch, but I made a banana bag that I really like out of a Swiss Army gasmask bag. Cut two holes for the straps and sewed around the edges to stop fraying, sewed the bottom corners together to narrow the bag for thigh clearance, and cut off the straps and

Re: [RBW] Re: Why all the miles?

2012-12-12 Thread Esteban
I'll echo everything Mike has written here. I'll add something simple: ADVENTURE. Brevets are always an adventure. There's always a tad of doubt and suffering. Exploring is poking around the hills and stopping to make tea. Adventure holds some risk, and its rewards are deeply internal -

[RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?

2012-12-12 Thread Phil Bickford
On Dec 12, 9:37 am, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I mean fenders. Thanks for that clarification. I'd Boeshield the inside of steel rims. left me with a nightmare of fixing that first flat Phil B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: Why all the miles?

2012-12-12 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I don't think people need to be stuck in buckets in the sense that you must have fun every time you get on a bike. (I believe) Grant's point is not to label people and the reasons they get on bikes. The point is, if you are not just riding because you believe you need to ride so far or suffer so

[RBW] Totally missed this Rivendell Poster!

2012-12-12 Thread William
This is going up in one of my spaces, no question. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pr12.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?

2012-12-12 Thread Matthew J
Stainless steel resists corrosion well. I and many other riders of late have a completely uncoated stainless steel bike. On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:37:43 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Sorry, I mean fenders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?

2012-12-12 Thread Peter Morgano
I would think the debris that fenders kick up would wear away that boeshield pretty fast. I have a Peugeot with steel fenders, about 20 years old and still look ok. They are rusty as hell inside but my bikes live indoors so mostly surface rust. On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Michael

[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-12 Thread pb
Thanks, Grant, for your graceful and open reply. As I wish you and your business well, I'm glad that you read my post, for whatever it may be worth. I'll shoot you an email off-list. On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:47:00 PM UTC-8, gep7...@gmail.com wrote: .. -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing

2012-12-12 Thread Mike Schiller
A 55 Sam in 650b wheel size with a single top tube would be nice. Looks like the top tube would be around 58cm. I could go for something like that! ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing

2012-12-12 Thread Garth
All the details will be given sometime I'm sure ... lol. Like ... will they all be made in Taiwan or USA now ? All sizes take caliper brakes now ? Does the slope remain a 6 degrees or increased to allow for greater flexibility in sizing ? Colors .. geometry ... etc. but ya' know

[RBW] Re: Homemade Accessories for Bikes

2012-12-12 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
That's a great modification, Gernot. I really like the taper. --Andy On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:17:18 AM UTC-8, Earl Grey wrote: I haven't made anything from scratch, but I made a banana bag that I really like out of a Swiss Army gasmask bag. Cut two holes for the straps and sewed

Re: [RBW] Re: Why all the miles?

2012-12-12 Thread Ryan Watson
On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:35, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I'll echo everything Mike has written here. I'll add something simple: ADVENTURE. Exactly! Someone (on a brevet, I think) told me: If you don't wish you were somewhere else at least once, it's not really an adventure. More and

[RBW] Re: FS 56cm Homer Hilsen Frame/Fork

2012-12-12 Thread Mike B
I'll be out of the country from the 15th to the 27th of december and might not be able to answer any questions till I get back. Happy Holidays! Mike On Monday, December 10, 2012 11:42:41 AM UTC-5, greenteadrinkers wrote: Hi, Not sure if you still have the frame set for sale, if so, I was

[RBW] Re: FS 56cm Homer Hilsen Frame/Fork

2012-12-12 Thread Mike B
Hello Scott Frame is still available. It is a 650b. Cheers Mike On Monday, December 10, 2012 11:42:41 AM UTC-5, greenteadrinkers wrote: Hi, Not sure if you still have the frame set for sale, if so, I was wondering if its a 650b or 700c model? Thanks, Scott On Friday, November

[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-12 Thread Matthew J
But what I find offensive (that may be too stronga word) are the notions that serious riders dress, ride bikes like, and train like racers. Agree with this completely. For the most part I ignore stuff about bikes and riding I don't cotton to. Life is too short. But this whole notion

Re: [RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?

2012-12-12 Thread Matthew J
I have a Peugeot with steel fenders, about 20 years old and still look ok. They are rusty as hell inside but my bikes live indoors so mostly surface rust. Stainless or chrome plated like the Walds? Chrome I can see wearing down and rusting. Or it could be the stainless fenders are

[RBW] Re: Homemade Accessories for Bikes

2012-12-12 Thread Greg J
I haven't attempted this yet, but I have been thinking about hacking together a locking metal or plastic box for the bike. Something like the Keven's bag, but with a lock. I usually leave my bike locked in the secure parking garage in my building, but even still I don't like the idea of

[RBW] Re: Homemade Accessories for Bikes

2012-12-12 Thread William
Try a Pelican case? They come in ALL sizes. On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:15:50 PM UTC-8, Greg J wrote: I haven't attempted this yet, but I have been thinking about hacking together a locking metal or plastic box for the bike. Something like the Keven's bag, but with a lock. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?

2012-12-12 Thread Peter Morgano
Chrome plated, yeah where the chrome has flaked off they have rust but are still sturdy. On Dec 12, 2012 6:00 PM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Peugeot with steel fenders, about 20 years old and still look ok. They are rusty as hell inside but my bikes live indoors so mostly

[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-12 Thread Ron Mc
I ride a lot of city park trails, especially with my daughter, or there's a 26-mile-round paved trail that I hit a lot just for a weekly aerobic ride if no place else comes to mind. We see a lot of the same lycra guys there, and many of them are smug if not condescending about upright bikes

[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-12 Thread William
I used to think it mattered who I passed and who passed me. I don't think that anymore. I ring my bell hello at all of them. On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:43:35 PM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: I ride a lot of city park trails, especially with my daughter, or there's a 26-mile-round paved

[RBW] Re: Totally missed this Rivendell Poster!

2012-12-12 Thread Tony Lockhart
Yep, I'm buying one to put in my classroom, and perhaps one for the bike room at home. It looks great! On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:22:12 AM UTC-8, William wrote: This is going up in one of my spaces, no question. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pr12.htm -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-12 Thread Mojo
Thanks Patrick Moore for speaking my mind. I do not have one cycling friend that agrees on all the nuances that complicates the category that is bicycle riding. But we are still friends. I read Grant's cycling musings and he sounds like one of my guys who has figured things out in his own way.

[RBW] Re: All-Rounder for sale

2012-12-12 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
The bike is currently set up for a saddle height of 70.6 cm. Yes, I asked because (darn it!) it looks to be my size. A PBH of 88.9 cm should have a saddle height of closer to 80 cm, maybe 78 or 79cm. That's an extra 3 of seatpost, which means you'll need to raise the handlebar a similar amount

[RBW] Re: Totally missed this Rivendell Poster!

2012-12-12 Thread Joe K
I love those traditional posters! Nice that Grant had it done. Back in college, our University Chorus shared an evening with several gospel choirs (very innovative move by our director) so the concert combined European classical and down-home black American. We had posters with broad horizontal

[RBW] Re: All-Rounder for sale

2012-12-12 Thread Michael
dis may help: http://www.rivbike.com/kb_results.asp?ID=41 scroll down for chart... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: Totally missed this Rivendell Poster!

2012-12-12 Thread Montclair BobbyB
You know, I'm furnishing my new place, and realized it's time to replace a few of my older posters... So I picked up the David Lance Goines print and the Hunqa-poster... Now with this new poster I've got enough artwork on the walls to rename the room from the Ansel Adams Conservatory to

[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-12 Thread Ron Mc
and William, in the post you replied to, I used the word I twice in 200 words - you used it 4 times in 80 words - think about it. On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:55:36 PM UTC-6, William wrote: I used to think it mattered who I passed and who passed me. I don't think that anymore. I

[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-12 Thread dougP
Grant: If you publish stuff, someone, somewhere, will be offended. Guaranteed. Don't be sorry. The other side of balance beam is that you give voice to a lot of ideas / opinions / thoughts that bubble around in a lot of our heads but never make it into print. I don't agree with everything

Re: [RBW] Re: All-Rounder for sale

2012-12-12 Thread Chris Burgess
Ah damn, just as well... Sent from my iPhone On Dec 12, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA benzouy...@gmail.com wrote: The bike is currently set up for a saddle height of 70.6 cm. Yes, I asked because (darn it!) it looks to be my size. A PBH of 88.9 cm should have a saddle height of

[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-12 Thread William
Of course I use first person singular a lot. I'm smug! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XKxfLafMDdUJ. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-12 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I had a lot of concrete ideas about bikes and cycling before I opened a neighborhood bike shop 7 years ago. All my customers have their own ideas about how bikes should be or how best to ride bikes, and all of them are correct! Sometimes, though, they need a little encouragement. For example,

[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

2012-12-12 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Continuing from above... when I tell them there's no need to go clipless! I don't use clipless pedals. This, of course, does not mean I discourage clipless lovers from loving clipless. I just defuse the peer pressure for people who clearly aren't ready for such an advancement in their bike

Re: [RBW] Re: All-Rounder for sale

2012-12-12 Thread Joe Bernard
Of course the saddle height works perfect for me. But it's not gonna happen. I need a triple drivetrain for trails *and *the hills around my house, and the dropbars would be ditched for a Bullmoose I already have. I'd need to score it as a frameset the way he did, which is the only way I could

[RBW] Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?

2012-12-12 Thread Michael
Or do you think the Hilsen has a lock on it for now for the general-use-mobile? The reason I ask is because if I had to buy a new bike soon, it would have to be the Hilsen for my taste/needs (commutin'/rec-rides). Was wondering if sum-n' new might come out since they seem to stop production

[RBW] Re: Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?

2012-12-12 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Seems like anything new would be pretty similar to the Hilsen, but perhaps in a different color and with a different name. The roadish Rivendell category is somewhat tightly constrained. I kinda doubt we'll see a new Riv with press-in BB or a tapered headtube for zero-stack headset anytime

[RBW] Flat pedal revolution manifesto

2012-12-12 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Here's a more direct link to the manifesto. Kinda curious to try the 5-10 shoes he recommends, but I seem to do ok with any shoes I've tried. Anybody try the 5-10 shoes? http://www.bikejames.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/FlatPedalRevolutionManifesto.pdf -- You received this message because