Wow, what is that crazy bar tape?
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 7:17:42 PM UTC-7, Hugh Flynn wrote:
Well, o.k.
These aren't great pictures, but they are what I have on hand. I'll add
some detailed shots if I can grab a little time to go make them :-)
Soma - Orange Chrome.
While the yellow Benotto tape I used before had a decidedly more classic
look, I think I prefer the bell-matching orange chrome.
Bag-matching is easy - I've stepped up to bell-matching :-)
Hugh Disco Bars Flynn
Newburyport, MA
On Monday, May 12, 2014, Joe Bernard
Unless he is considering some extensive wilderness kind of touring, I would
suggest he look into an Ebisu. I used one to commute for many years and
found it to have a good, stable ride on 38mm tires. with steel fenders. I
only sold mine when a very good used Saluki in my size popped up on this
As a 250 lb guy riding mostly 30ish pound bikes (+commuting load) I don't get
to wrapped up about weight... But I am always intrigued when I heft a light
weight bike. Thing is you'll never be able to do side by side testing of a
+/-25 lbs 'engine' but it's easy to try a +/-10lb bike/equipment.
I'm in Tony's camp, both with personal and bike weight. One thing I've
noticed does make a difference is tires. Have now had a second, longer
ride on the Compass Barlow Pass tires and have noticed that I am faster on
my Hillborne with those tires.
But that is me. Have a friend who is very
Franklin Frames in Ohio will build you anything your heart desires :)
And he does not have a long wait time. Jack Trumbull is prea tty much a
one man operation in rural Ohio . He is definitely under the radar, so
speak He told me that Riv once contacted him about building some frames,
I have toured on my Atlantis on the Western Express route and several other
shorter trips. It has been a comfortable and wonderful bike, and I had no
problems with the bike (other than just one flat tire in Pueblo, CO). That
said, I definitely saw more fellow tourers on Long Haul Truckers than
I love the idea of the LHT as placeholder while the Atlantis is on order.
Best of all possible worlds, to be perfectly Candide. But perhaps I am
Panglossing over something? Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
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What is the wait time on the Hilsen? It was a while back but I recall GP
posting Riv had a surplus of larger 650B frames. The 700C is obviously a
good choice as well.
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 4:56:17 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
I know that the Atlantis is R's most popular model (I think
It seems that everyone agrees that losing 25 lbs would be better than
lightening the bike by 4 lbs.
A different question: If the rider lost 4 lbs would that be equivalent to
riding a bike that was 4 lbs lighter?
For example, last weekend I rode out 20 miles to pick up two 2-lb jars of
honey.
On 05/12/2014 09:54 AM, Eric Peterson wrote:
It seems that everyone agrees that losing 25 lbs would be better than
lightening the bike by 4 lbs.
A different question: If the rider lost 4 lbs would that be equivalent
to riding a bike that was 4 lbs lighter?
For example, last weekend I rode out
Having owned a (too small) Atlantis a number of years ago and having a LHT
for the past few years, the Atlantis has a better ride feel. Especially
unloaded.
The Trucker Deluxe (great suggestion) or the 26 wheel LHT would be my
choice. Of course, I like the idea of a larger frame with 26 tires.
Wow, Bobby – that is really classy.
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Subject: [RBW] Fuji Touring Series IV, Rivish Makeover, Phase 1
Found
Buy the LHT off the peg or build up the frame with as many compatible
components as possible, then swap the components it over to the Atlantis
frame when it comes available. I can't imagine you can't offload the LHT
frame with minimal loss. My wife has an LHT and I have an Atlantis. The
LHT
Reid:
I have a Nishiki Prestige (that I NEED to get back on the road... lost the
front wheel last year)... Agree the ride is amazingly comfortable.
Joe B, these are the shifters you bartered to me; they are awesome! THANK
YOU!!! I haven't owned Suntour Barcons so I can't do a fair
Thanks, Tom... Actually I think you bartered this saddle to me... knew it
would find the right bike :)
On Monday, May 12, 2014 10:07:37 AM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:
Wow, Bobby – that is really classy.
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I just replaced the tires on my newest commuter-y type bike, the New
Albion Privateer. It is a pretty stout steel steed. I was running Maxxis
Refuse 700x28 folding tires at 85 psi. I thought maybe they might have been
making the stoutness feel even more stout -
Thanks! Cranks have been sourced.
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 8:49:22 PM UTC-5, blakcloud wrote:
Mark, I sent you a PM about the stuff you need. I live in Toronto so
shipping might be easier.
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I think that has been most folks' experience with the Grand Bois Cypres.
Certainly mine when switching from Gatorskins.
They are more flat prone but the tradeoff is worth it IMO.
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:35 AM, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote:
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Both saddles have been sold.
Thanks all.
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Interesting point about front bag interference, thanks for that comment.
I'm thinking of buying a large front back for randonneuring.
Back on topic - awesome Fuji, love the build!
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Joe Bunik jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
Anton, why not? For friction it makes little
I'm putting Albas on the deep-blue/green Heron Road I just picked
up..they'll look great with some Orange Chrome in the curves. Thanks for
the idea!
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Monday, May 12, 2014 2:53:57 AM UTC-7, Hugh Flynn wrote:
Soma - Orange Chrome.
While the yellow Benotto tape I
Is the chrome look bar-tape easier to clean? I.e., smooth wipable surface?
Does it get hot?
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 4:53 AM, hugh flynn hugfly...@gmail.com wrote:
Soma - Orange Chrome.
While the yellow Benotto tape I used before had a decidedly more classic
look, I think I prefer the
The Sleepers are kinda biased and we love our Rivs. So to Dawn and I it would
be a yes to waiting 5 months or finding one used.
Come to think of it though, I have two friends that tour with us using
Hilbournes and they love em.
Here are some of Dawns Atlantis loaded down.
My five cents . . .
Don't bother what what you do not want , only get what you really really
want ! Don't settle for what you do not want , unless you want to settle
for what you do not really want. *Then* you'll either have a boat anchor
laying around after you get what you wanted in
Yes, it would be the same. Weight is weight and physics is physics.
The chief thing about losing rider weight is that for most of us this is good
for our health, Americans tending towards overweight and obesity. Even
maintaining a 5 lb weight loss shows measurable improvements in long term
It IS easy to clean as it has a nice smooth surface to it.
The tape has what looks to be a strip of bronze colored mylar glued over a
fairly basic strip of basic black foam/PVC bar tape. The mylar strip does not
confirm easily to bar contours, so it was by far the hardest tape I've ever
tried
Yes, it would be the same. Weight is weight and physics is physics.
Yes and no. Depending on the bikes geometry, where the weight is located
makes a big difference.
My high trail, short chain stay Spectrum rides beautifully with just me on
board, rides pretty well even with a weekend
I've toured on a couple of Riv's (Atlantis and Bombadil) and a 26-inch
wheel LHT. Had great, extended tours on all. The only touring bike I now
own is the LHT.
In my size (60 cm frame), I found the wheelbase too long on the Bombadil
with the 50mm tires I prefer - and I've come to love 50's
I have been running Cypres on my Riv Road for a few years and like them a
lot. The kevlar bead ones. There was also a steel bead at one time that I
tried and did not like.
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:35 AM, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote:
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On 05/12/2014 11:58 AM, Matthew J wrote:
Yes, it would be the same. Weight is weight and physics is physics.
Yes and no. Depending on the bikes geometry, where the weight is
located makes a big difference.
My high trail, short chain stay Spectrum rides beautifully with just
me on board,
I wish my stoker would lose 25 lbs, but I sure as hell ain't going to tell
her so. The Santana is heavy, and I have no plans for trying to make it
lighter. I guess I am just going to have to pedal harder...
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 1:31:59 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
Assuming the 1-manpower
On 05/12/2014 09:24 AM, 'Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
I wish my stoker would lose 25 lbs, but I sure as hell ain't going to
tell her so. The Santana is heavy, and I have no plans for trying to
make it lighter. I guess I am just going to have to pedal harder...
On Sunday, May 11,
I think that reduced body weight makes much more of a difference even lb
for lb. Even with no change in strength, reduced body weight increases
strength to weight ratio. Lighter body weight increases VO2Max, i.e.
results in increased performance. Reduced body weight also requires less
Under $1700 is a good price for a custom frame. I toured extensively on a
frame with 8/5/8 tubing and while it was a noodle in some (lots of)
circumstances and the 700 wheels didn't do so well on rough stuff, it still
planed, somehow even with 50lb of gear. It was loaded too heavily for the
I think what we really need is a people lifter. A contraption that picks
the person up with a caliper around your chest area. And once off the
ground a robotic voice says, dude you are feeling so light today. you must
have lost 50 grams between yesterday and today! love you for that!
On Sunday,
Ha! Today was imposed single speed, at least once my derailure froze. When
I turned around and thus downhill, I attempted to shift to my downhill gear
equivalent on the QB, but my mammoth's derailure had iced up and refused to
budge. Not a bad thing, though given the thick, sloppy condition the
Grand Bois changed their tire design significantly based on our tire tests.
At first, they used a casing that was similar to the Rolly-Poly/Jack
Brown/Maxy-Fasty. After our tests, they went back to the drawing board and
improved the design. The latest step in that direction are the Extra Léger
On Monday, May 12, 2014 10:37:43 AM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote:
Grand Bois changed their tire design significantly based on our tire
tests. At first, they used a casing that was similar to the Rolly-Poly/Jack
Brown/Maxy-Fasty. After our tests, they went back to the drawing board and
improved
Cheers! Seeing stupid coming is a technique we should all learn.
On May 12, 2014 1:18 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Ha! Today was imposed single speed, at least once my derailure froze. When
I turned around and thus downhill, I attempted to shift to my downhill gear
equivalent
Well, I've 8+ concussions in my noggin, so I've had WAY too much practice
at both being and seeing stupid. Sardonic Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, May 12, 2014 12:19:51 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:
Cheers! Seeing stupid coming is a technique we should all learn.
On May 12, 2014 1:18 PM,
Patrick-
Are those Silver bar-ends on your Hunq? What did you use for the rubber
caps?
Tim
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On 05/12/2014 02:16 PM, Brewster Fong wrote:
On Monday, May 12, 2014 10:37:43 AM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote:
Grand Bois changed their tire design significantly based on our
tire tests. At first, they used a casing that was similar to the
Rolly-Poly/Jack Brown/Maxy-Fasty. After our
On Monday, May 12, 2014 11:22:09 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 05/12/2014 02:16 PM, Brewster Fong wrote:
On Monday, May 12, 2014 10:37:43 AM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote:
Grand Bois changed their tire design significantly based on our tire
tests. At first, they used a casing that was
I saw a post on this list offering the same stuff for $2250. Something
about living next to a park and getting drawn to the dark side (mountain
biking). I was tempted to take the lot, but live in the Bay Area and have
no time to venture to Michigan to get the stuff.
Hopefully, it went to
Excellent – glad it found such a good spot for itself!
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Subject: Re: [RBW] Fuji Touring Series IV, Rivish
I use a Sam Hillborne as a touring bike and it has been wonderfulthe
hunqapillar would be an excellent choice too.
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 4:56:17 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
I know that the Atlantis is R's most popular model (I think it is anyway)
and I know many listmembers use
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:11:24 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
-- get the Quickbeam (I'll outfit it with 32t/40t front rings and on the
rear a 16t/19t Dos Eno and a 22t bail out on the flip side).
To put a philosophical spin on it, that's not really single speeding,
that's just a slow
I have no shame, I am a sweaty sweaty man. When I wrestled it was 4 t
shirts in 4 hours of practice. I love riding in my tevas but my wife has
commanded they now live outside due to the smell they are generating from
my sweaty feet. Anyone know of a sandal either leather or synthetic that
can
Unless there are some seriously high-tech developments in footbed design,
the sweat at the bottom of the foot/under the toes has nowhere to go.
Without the sock to absorb the foot sweat, the funk just builds up on
sandals. They'd need a removable/washable footbed to stay unfunky, or
you'd have
Drillium Tevas...I am on last years pair and do have a drill...interesting
idea.
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Tim Gavin
tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.comwrote:
Unless there are some seriously high-tech developments in footbed design,
the sweat at the bottom of the foot/under the toes has
Before going barefoot and with the shoes I use now, I wore huaraches, and
the best company making them is: http://www.lunasandals.com.
How big are your feet? I could look and see what I have and if a pair might
work for you. Let me know off list.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, May 12, 2014
There's also: http://xeroshoes.com/index-nav-mwc.php
(But I do not like their laces).
With abandon,
Patrick
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At least then the bottom of your feet will get more air. I like tevas
because you can throw them in the washer.
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote:
Drillium Tevas...I am on last years pair and do have a drill...interesting
idea.
On Mon, May 12,
True, though by that logic a single speed isn't a single speed if I put a
different sized cog or two in my saddle bag. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, May 12, 2014 2:04:27 PM UTC-6, Jim M. wrote:
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:11:24 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
-- get the Quickbeam
Crocs. they do not adsorb any moisture , so their is nothing to retain
odors :) You can rinse them after each ride, if you wish, and they take
as long to dry of as it takes to wipe off the water ! Meaning: no time .
They have a bunch of different styles and fits. I wear the Scutes ,
Sorry for the multiple posts, my brain's still clunking away at this.
natural materials are going to be the best at oder fighting. A leather
sandal won't stink up where a Teva would. Additionally, our whole family's
sweat stopped stinking when we eliminated grains and veggie oils from our
Maybe try getting 2 pairs of sandals and rotating them every day so they
have a chance to dry.
Maybe try Chaco sandals. I had odor issues with Keen Sandals but my Chacos
have been pretty good.
Dan Abelson
On May 12, 2014 3:07 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
I have no shame, I
Oh, functionally I see no issues with the routing and agree it might reduce
bag interference. It's purely an aesthetic issue for me, although I've
never really had interference issues with the conventional routing and my
handlebar bags.
Anton
On Monday, May 12, 2014 11:05:28 AM UTC-4, Jim
I think Steve is right, it would be hard to improve upon FMB. Their
tubulars are pretty amazing. I used them in 'cross last season, and they
were a dream. For their road tires, I think the tread could be improved
(they use Challenge's treads for their wider tires), mostly to increase the
After much deliberation, I'm considering selling my Sam. Will update in a
day or so and maybe do a flickr photo set if there's any interest.
I have, complete and ready to ride, a Sam as described in the subject line:
orange dtt, waterford-made (if that matters to you) by all accounts (having
Lovely color! You may as well touch up the scratches while the crank is
off. Clear nail polish is better than nothing.
Maybe try different handlebars/shifters on your two Bombas, for their two
different purposes?
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Tom Harrop twhar...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
Man $18k, prices are rising in the world of Rivendell! :)
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 5:34 PM, cbone97 cbon...@gmail.com wrote:
After much deliberation, I'm considering selling my Sam. Will update in a
day or so and maybe do a flickr photo set if there's any interest.
I have, complete and
That is going to be one fantastic trail bike, Tom! And given your first
name, two Bombadils only seems fitting. Just be sure to leave the frame in
share or at most dappled sunlight of the deep forest lest the chocolate
goodness melt away. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, May 12, 2014
So if the Cypres is actually a Grand Bois-branded product. Is there a
similar/better Compass-branded 700 x 32-ish?
On Monday, May 12, 2014 7:35:44 AM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:
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Hi Peter,
These are great handmade sandals that are comfy and tough. Not so smelly
and you can wipe 'em down with a sponge and saddle soap. Highly
recommended.
https://www.pipersandals.com/
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Thanks guys. Yep, the 68 has noodles with bar ends at the moment and I'm
planning to go with bullmooses and thumbies on this one. Maybe green
bartape over the grips with dark shellack will complement the brown
nicely...
Good point about the scratches, might as well cover them up while they're
Exactly what you said. I don't ride fixed...I admire those who do, but I
really, really love riding the PX-10 as an SS. Now, granted, in Winnipeg,
we do not have any real seroius hills but we do have wind. I usually will
coast a bit on slight downhills , to stretch and move around , but I try
On 05/12/2014 05:57 PM, eflayer wrote:
So if the Cypres is actually a Grand Bois-branded product. Is there a
similar/better Compass-branded 700 x 32-ish?
http://www.compasscycle.com/tires_comp_700_32.html
Stampede Pass
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Oops! That would be $1800, not $18,000.
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I have these on the Motobecane-Formerly-Known-As-Patrick's. Like them a lot.
They handled the unpaved section of the Davis Double flawlessly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M08gWcJd8Mfeature=sharelist=UUccfA4NuyWU3-YaUf9LkNwA
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On 05/12/2014 06:34 PM, cbone97 wrote:
Oops! That would be $1800, not $18,000.
After that whole Riv water bottle thread I really wasn't sure.
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Oh yeah, 2 MUSA water bottles included.
On May 12, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 05/12/2014 06:34 PM, cbone97 wrote:
Oops! That would be $1800, not $18,000.
After that whole Riv water bottle thread I really wasn't sure.
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On 05/12/2014 06:49 PM, Charles Bone wrote:
Oh yeah, 2 MUSA water bottles included.
well, for 18 thousand dollars I should think so!
On May 12, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 05/12/2014 06:34 PM, cbone97 wrote:
Oops! That would be $1800, not $18,000.
After that whole Riv
What size does said surgeon ride? I'm considering parting ways with my
Atlantis. As much as I enjoy it, time for riding is limited, I have no
plans for another tour and I have others to ride that get my ya-ya's out.
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 4:56:17 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
I know that
Thanks for the video, Eric. That helps answer my last remaining question
before I put the Barlow Pass Compass tires at the top of my list.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, May 12, 2014 4:37:39 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
I have these on the Motobecane-Formerly-Known-As-Patrick’s. Like them a
Do I recall correctly that Jan has said elsewhere that the EL casings were
developed from the mfg's high end tubular casing?
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Most likely, perhaps the weight off you would seem a bigger difference for
esoteric and dubious reasons. To first order a lb is a lb, be it love handles
on you, a jar in a bag, or part of your bike.
The siren call of component and frame weight obsession is in close quarters
with the lure of
I'll have to work through my back stock of tires Jan before I can justify
ordering something new, although there are a number of new tires in the
market to look at including the Compass offerings.
Thanks for the back ground info however. we lose track so quickly of how
bikes and components came
Wool socks might help a lot. Wool does not support bacterial growth (the
scent source) and basically, doesn't smell.
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote:
I have no shame, I am a sweaty sweaty man. When I wrestled it was 4 t
shirts in 4 hours of
A blogpost on what may be the best bike ever.
http://eprider.blogspot.com/2014/05/why-my-bicycle-is-better-than-yours.html
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I took a leap and purchased a set of Cayuse Pass, 700c x 26 tires from Compass, in early April. They've been ridden about 420 miles - and I really like them a lot. Definitely a cushy, pleasant ride. Without question the following is a subjective judgment: I think they are faster than my previous
Brilliant, Joan! Thank you and that's wonderful to know.
With abandon,
Patrick
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I've been using the Grand Bois Cerf Blue 700 x 26c tires on my gofast
(Giordana) for a year or so. Lots of smiles, tons of miles, no flats.
I'm a big guy so I ride them around 90psi.
Tim
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Brilliant, Joan! Thank you and
That is correct. There has been a lot of discussion between Grand Bois,
Compass and Panaracer about how to make the ultimate clincher tires...
Jan Heine
On Monday, May 12, 2014 4:38:30 PM UTC-7, ted wrote:
Do I recall correctly that Jan has said elsewhere that the EL casings were
developed
Putting these up for sale to save up for a medium or large sackville
saddlesack and thought I'd try the list here before ebay. Let me know if
anyone is interested. It will be about a week before I can ship or do a
pickup. Let me know if interested. I have pictures I can send as well. Can
The thought that being 25lbs. overweight is like carrying around another
bike on you is an eye opening statement.
I don't think for a non-racer like me I would benefit from shaving bike
weight.
I need to ride more and eat less.
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Luna and xero sandals sound interesting, but can you bike ride with them
comfortably?
Or do you need barefoot pedals also to do this?
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I support you in that ambition! Needing to do the same.
On Monday, May 12, 2014 10:56:14 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
The thought that being 25lbs. overweight is like carrying around another
bike on you is an eye opening statement.
I don't think for a non-racer like me I would benefit from
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