Re: [RBW] Re: NYC ride report

2014-11-25 Thread Chris Chen
Here are the mitts on my bosco bullmooses: https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/15215339023/ On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Kainalu kaiviers...@gmail.com wrote: Thank You Peter!! As for the bar mitts, they seem great and totally warm, the only foreseeable problem for me is my bars'

[RBW] Re: Yet _even more_ travel coffee questions!

2014-11-25 Thread Peter Adler
The best of the Bodum mug/press options is the swankiest one: Stainless steel and insulated. I can keep nearly a pint of coffee hot for several hours in one. Take a small grinder with me, too. And they fit in typical handlebar cupholders, like the SOMA ones (that originally came with the OXO

Re: [RBW] Re: Cold weather water ideas - how to stop freezing bottles?

2014-11-25 Thread Ron Mc
http://www.lakenusa.com/category_s/1817.htm On Monday, November 24, 2014 7:31:11 PM UTC-6, EricP wrote: Agree with Deacon, if you are riding longer distances in serious cold, a CamelBak or similar under a jacket is possibly the best way. The past couple years, my winter rides are shorter,

[RBW] Re: Cold weather water ideas - how to stop freezing bottles?

2014-11-25 Thread ascpgh
I have a Patagonia insulating layer parka that has elasticated mesh pockets down at the lowest point on the inside surface, on both sides of the zipper for water bottles. There is no more low impact than the use of existent energy. A CamelBak really steps into a category of its own in cold

Re: [RBW] Re: New RBW fork crown?

2014-11-25 Thread Goshen Peter
still holding out that its for internal wiring, I know its petty but it just makes sense to me seeing as I think at least a good bit of Riv owners ride with dyno lights and unlike Grant don't like zip ties all over their bikes, haha. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Deacon Patrick

[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water

2014-11-25 Thread Jan Heine
The 40 miles per bottle were on soft gravel in daytime, which resulted in more work per mile than the stretch from Fort Rock to Prineville, most of which is on harder gravel or even pavement. Plus, I did half of that stretch at night, with cooler temperatures. If I was concerned, I'd put a

Re: [RBW] Re: Cold weather water ideas - how to stop freezing bottles?

2014-11-25 Thread Anne
From years of winter mtb rides: With the Camelbak and covered hose you'll still want to blow back once you're done drinking. Otherwise you can end up with a frozen valve. Some folks w/o hydration packs will put an extra bottle in their middle jersey pocket. Being next to your body and covered

[RBW] Re: Winter means looking for problems that might not exist and solving them. Hence, Stem Shifters!

2014-11-25 Thread Garth
Well yes Bill . . . lol . Problems do not Truly exist , and conversely, neither do Solutions ;) Perfection Reigns Eternal ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Re: NYC ride report

2014-11-25 Thread Kainalu
That looks great! And cozy! Especially with the orange and wood tones. I think I'd most likely have to reorient my shifters. And what of my lovely bell? Could set up a small contact mic with some computer speakers to broadcast the dings, maybe swap my vp1's for a reverb and a wah wah! But

[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water

2014-11-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
Jan's point is excellent, and I'll say that most of us, regardless of conditions, could likely bike for five or more hours if need be without water. I've run in 100˚F+ Utah desert for over eight hours at high summer with 44 oz of water. I have biked 5+ hours being completely out of water. Yes,

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa sneak peek

2014-11-25 Thread Richard Rios
Are there any rides in the works? I've been wanting to go on one just really haven't had any luck with making it... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Mini-Grant-Sandwiches

2014-11-25 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Hey just curious... Anyone amongst the bacon eating low carb devotees also Vitamix owners? My Vitamix just arrived yesterday, purchases during a moment of weakness (or clarity?) at the Philly Bike Expo, and I already have concocted a few variations of green smoothies...just because I can. But

[RBW] Re: Mini-Grant-Sandwiches

2014-11-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
We love ours! That sucker has POWER! Butter and butter milk from cream (Amazing how much better this tastes than bought butter, even from the same company). Use 100% grass fed dairy if possible. Pumpkin/squash/turnip/other veggies puree for pies, puddings, custards, etc. Liverwurst Ice cream

Re: [RBW] Re: Winter means looking for problems that might not exist and solving them. Hence, Stem Shifters!

2014-11-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
OK, that makes sense. Just like some riders would use one or two barcons on their criterium bike in the 1980s if they felt that reaching for DT shifters would make them too wobbly. Just like a few of the pros would run barcons just for Paris Roubaix or similar. Just like most cyclocross

[RBW] Re: Speed Wobble on Big Rivs?

2014-11-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
My 56cm single top tube Sam Hillborne shimmies when I'm running only a Saddlesack Large on top of a rear rack. My 56cm 2TT Bombadil also shimmies with the identical weight setup, but the frequency is much higher and the amplitude is much smaller. Looking at shimmy as an underdamped second

Re: [RBW] Re: Winter means looking for problems that might not exist and solving them. Hence, Stem Shifters!

2014-11-25 Thread Scott Henry
That actually is a GREAT picture Bill. Thanks for posting, it has been saved. Sean Kelly on that Vitus 979 with downtube shifters and toe clips. Then moving back we have the barcons, then STI levers and, on the far left, Greg Lemond with Scott Drop-in bars and a converted RockShox Mag 21

Re: [RBW] Re: Winter means looking for problems that might not exist and solving them. Hence, Stem Shifters!

2014-11-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
You're absolutely right, Scott. There were a bunch of things mixing around at once during that era. Very good eye. You got more out of it beyond the point I initially intended to deliver, but you are totally right. It's all there. Bill On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:09:29 AM UTC-8,

[RBW] Hub Area Rack, new versus old?

2014-11-25 Thread John Phillips
Hi, Has there been any more talk of Riv selling hoops for the older (last July's) version of the HAR? I notice the hub area racks have been re-designed and are quite a bit different from the ones that came out last summer. Shortly after I purchased mine, Riv said they were going to come

[RBW] Re: Speed Wobble on Big Rivs?

2014-11-25 Thread John Phillips
Brian, Is that a Swift Industries Paloma bag on your handlebars? On Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:39:13 PM UTC-8, Lovie Cashew wrote: Currently in the market for a lugged steel roadbike for commuting. I only use a rear rack with a basket containing 15lbs or so of stuff. Current (and past)

[RBW] Re: Hub Area Rack, new versus old?

2014-11-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
Hi John I own a non-hoop HA Rack like you and I heard what you heard, that they planned to offer a retrofit hoop. The only extra detail that I know is that this design was driven by Mark. I bet the smartest info will come from him. Email mark at rivbike dot com and I'm sure he'll let you

[RBW] Re: Hub Area Rack, new versus old?

2014-11-25 Thread Shoji Takahashi
I've got ver1 HAR+HUB. They've stayed on my Hunqapillar since I got them in July(?). I use them for grocery hauling, and holding picnic stuff and toys when I'm riding with kids. Solid w/o hoop. I'll let my inner weight weenie take pride in knowing that I'm saving a few unnecessary grams,

[RBW] Re: 2TT Atlantis on the Blug

2014-11-25 Thread iamkeith
It's always interesting to me to note which atypical or unexpected design features look right, and how long it takes for me to find them so: - I'm with you on the double top tube: Didn't immediately like it, but grew to pretty quickly. - I immediately liked the twin diagatubes on Chica

[RBW] Re: Hub Area Rack, new versus old?

2014-11-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
I scrubbed off the mushrooms just because I didn't want them poking through the little pocket of the HAR pannier. But I lighter is lighter! On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:59:45 AM UTC-8, Shoji Takahashi wrote: I've got ver1 HAR+HUB. They've stayed on my Hunqapillar since I got them in

Re: [RBW] Re: Winter means looking for problems that might not exist and solving them. Hence, Stem Shifters!

2014-11-25 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/25/2014 10:55 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote: On a related note, I found it kind of cute how easily I can shift from the tops with my thumbs, not letting go of the bars at all. That was just around the block. When you, Steve, say that stem shifters are unacceptable for these situations, are

[RBW] Re: Hub Area Rack, new versus old?

2014-11-25 Thread John Phillips
I just received an email from Meisha at Riv that there is no option of purchasing a hoop for the early version of the HAR. :( So it looks like I'll be weight weenie, like you guys. :) Bummer, if I had wanted to be a weight weenie, I wouldn't have bought a Hunqapillar! ;) Thanks!!! John --

[RBW] What components do you wish RBW would start making?

2014-11-25 Thread lungimsam
Since they are not componenteurs, but they do have their own Silver line and bag line, etc. I'll start: *Decaleurs.* I have recently been searching for decaleurs, and there seem to be slim pickin's in the bike biz these days. 5 total I have found. 1 inexpensive and 1 mid point pricing models

Re: [RBW] What components do you wish RBW would start making?

2014-11-25 Thread Goshen Peter
Don't want to start a high trail debate but I personally wouldn't tell someone to have weight up high on the bars like you see on porteur low trail bikes. That being said developing a declauer seems to be counter intuitive to how Rivendells perform. Oh, this is all IMO, YMMV. On Nov 25, 2014 6:20

[RBW] Re: What components do you wish RBW would start making?

2014-11-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
Bikes. I want them to keep playing with bikes, and wherever that takes them in what doesn't exist in the form it ought to exist for the way they ride. Because they ride like I ride and they helped me lear to ride like I ride. So just like I don't want to tell Apple what to create that will help

Re: [RBW] What components do you wish RBW would start making?

2014-11-25 Thread Chris Chen
Really? Because between the Nitto, the VO, the Bertoud, the Klick-fix, and any one of the neat hack-it-yourself options, I'm not sure the world is dying for another decaleur. cc On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 3:20 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Since they are not componenteurs, but they

[RBW] Re: Hub Area Rack, new versus old?

2014-11-25 Thread dougP
Bill: When you say you scrubbed them off, exactly what did you do? I've considered modifying a Nitto rack but was leery of damaging the beautiful plating having to deal with protecting bare metal. dougP On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:22:35 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: I scrubbed off

Re: [RBW] What components do you wish RBW would start making?

2014-11-25 Thread Eric Norris
I’d be interested to see what Grant and company would come up with if they designed a crankset. I’m intrigued by the modern Rene Herse crankset that Boulder Bicycles sells, but it’s a little pricey. I’m sure Grant could design a retro-looking crank (square tapers, of course) and produce it for

Re: [RBW] What components do you wish RBW would start making?

2014-11-25 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/25/2014 07:51 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: don't some of them attach to the stem? or am I mistaken? Some handlebar bags attach to the stem. Porteur racks do not. There's a huge difference between the two concepts: no reasonable person would put 5 kg in a handlebar bag even with the best

Re: [RBW] What components do you wish RBW would start making?

2014-11-25 Thread Jason Hartman
What would you like in a crankset that isn't offered now? It's hard to beat the Sugino that Riv sells. If they start with a new forging, then it would be hard to keep the price reasonable. Is it worth two to three times the cost of the Sugino just to get a lower Q factor? At that point you could

Re: [RBW] What components do you wish RBW would start making?

2014-11-25 Thread Eric Norris
I really don’t care about Q factor—it’s more about aesthetics. I’d like to see what it would look like. OTOH, Velo Orange does a pretty good job with their retro-styled cranks. I have them on three bikes at the moment. —Eric N campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog:

[RBW] Re: What components do you wish RBW would start making?

2014-11-25 Thread John Hawrylak
A 2 bolt seatpost with 25 mm diameter, so shims can be used on seat tubes 27.0 mm. A lot of 70's and 80's Japaneses frames used 26.8 or 26.6 and a 25 with shim would be helpful John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

[RBW] Re: Hub Area Rack, new versus old?

2014-11-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
i cut them off with a hacksaw and filed down what was left. it's brazed stainless, so you are filing stainless and brass. dont worry about it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] What components do you wish RBW would start making?

2014-11-25 Thread Jason Hartman
On Tuesday, November 25, 2014, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I really don’t care about Q factor—it’s more about aesthetics. I’d like to see what it would look like. OTOH, Velo Orange does a pretty good job with their retro-styled cranks. I have them on three bikes at the moment.

Re: [RBW] What components do you wish RBW would start making?

2014-11-25 Thread Don Compton
I wish they could make a 98/74 crank. On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:30:34 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote: I’d be interested to see what Grant and company would come up with if they designed a crankset. I’m intrigued by the modern Rene Herse crankset that Boulder Bicycles sells, but it’s a

Re: [RBW] What components do you wish RBW would start making?

2014-11-25 Thread Jason Hartman
As with most things that VO sells, I think their cranks are about 80-90% there, design wise. The anodizing isn't all that great and how hard could it be to center the fluting on the front of the crank arm. Campy, Suntour, shimano, Sugino, et al. Seemed to have no problem doing both for decades.

[RBW] Re: Speed Wobble on Big Rivs?

2014-11-25 Thread stonehog
Why yes it is! Nice bag. Going to be using it tomorrow on a 200k around Whidbey Island. I took it for a test wiggle today, and no shimmy with my tool roll under the seat, and the Paloma up front. Can't wait! Brian On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:27:58 AM UTC-8, John Phillips wrote:

[RBW] Speaking of Stem Shifters...

2014-11-25 Thread Pondero
Nudged by Bill's inspiration, I ordered stem shifter mounts from Riv for my Atlantis. Then, in a classic timing move by me, I remembered I had some stem shifters way back in my parts pile...somewhere. I found them and cleaned them up a bit...

[RBW] Free tires in SF bay area (Peninsula)

2014-11-25 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
Hello! I have no use for the following tires since I'm entirely and utterly spoiled by Hetres, so they're free for claiming. You of course assume all risk with using used tires. I have one each of: 1. Schwalbe Marathon GreenGuard 650Bx42. Looks quite new with molding whiskers still

[RBW] Re: What components do you wish RBW would start making?

2014-11-25 Thread Matthew J
Toshi who makes wonderful cotton bar tape is retiring (sometimes sells as Toshi or Viva). Appears it is already too late to get the gold, even at the Japanese places that ship overseas. Riv seems pretty enthusiastic about Newbaums, which is certainly good tape. But the color is not as

[RBW] Re: What components do you wish RBW would start making?

2014-11-25 Thread Matthew J
One other resurrection - for a season or two Berthoud teamed up with SKS to make a real nice composite/alu fender. Quality and looks are a head above traditional SKS and it uses the Berthoud stainless steel fender hardware. My only set is already in use. I've looked every for a NOS set to no

Re: [RBW] What components do you wish RBW would start making?

2014-11-25 Thread Tim McNamara
A better saddlebag mount for Carradice style saddlebags. The saddlebag loops on saddles, the Nitto QR mount, the Bagman, etc. all leave a lot to be desired. All of them allow the bag to sway and move around which is not good when climbing out of the saddle. Jobst Brandt had one on his bike

[RBW] Re: What components do you wish RBW would start making?

2014-11-25 Thread Will
I wish Riv would start focusing on lighting. By that I mean having dynamo options for the standard build kits. And also, incorporate features for wire runs on the frames and forks. On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:20:05 PM UTC-6, lungimsam wrote: Since they are not componenteurs, but they do

Re: [RBW] Speaking of Stem Shifters...

2014-11-25 Thread Mike Williams
Chris, that Atlantis is looking sooo great man! Cant wait to see it fully built. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 25, 2014, at 6:19 PM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: Nudged by Bill's inspiration, I ordered stem shifter mounts from Riv for my Atlantis. Then, in a classic timing move by

Re: [RBW] guidonnet lever reach adjustment ideas?

2014-11-25 Thread Goshen Peter
Kai, I had the other VO levers and used something like this for adjustment, they just sit in the hole and are held with tension in the system. http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/221241378462?lpid=82 On Nov 25, 2014 10:11 PM, Kainalu kaiviers...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to a suggestion by Peter M., I

Re: [RBW] What components do you wish RBW would start making?

2014-11-25 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm pretty sure Riv is working on a crankset right now. Grant's mentioned it several times and I believe it's complete except for deciding (or achieving) the correct finish. On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 6:30:34 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote: I’d be interested to see what Grant and company

Re: [RBW] guidonnet lever reach adjustment ideas?

2014-11-25 Thread Goshen Peter
but was never adventurous enough to attempt what you want, haha. Good luck! On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Kai, I had the other VO levers and used something like this for adjustment, they just sit in the hole and are held with tension in the

Re: [RBW] Speaking of Stem Shifters...

2014-11-25 Thread Jason Hartman
You can try the Suntour stem shifters on nine speed, and if they don't work, just use the Riv mount. Btw, both shifter bodies are the same, the front one just doesn't have the ratchet. If you find another set, the transplant is easy and you can have ratcheting for both front and rear. Jay

[RBW] Re: New to me Atlantis

2014-11-25 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Chris I admire your commitment to the single handlebar, I wish I could get myself to agree on one! For shifters have you thought about thumbies? I did a pair of thumbies on my GAP trip w/ the purple-luki and liked it pretty well. I mounted them close to the stem. Granted I didn't shift a

Re: [RBW] Re: Winter means looking for problems that might not exist and solving them. Hence, Stem Shifters!

2014-11-25 Thread ted
That photo should also remind us that the euro pro road race crowd didn't arrive at what they are using now without trying a lot of different things. Those Vitus bikes were widely reputed to be very flexible, they must plane. Didn't Jan say his Alan cross bike does. Lots of experimentation with

Re: [RBW] guidonnet lever reach adjustment ideas?

2014-11-25 Thread Kainalu
Those are great for adjusting the tension, I'm fortunate to have one built into the tektro cable hanger. Still would need a reach adjustment doohicky similar to the one I fabricated, those guidonnet levers naturally sit a mile off of the bar in this application. I was thinking I of brazing in a

[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water

2014-11-25 Thread ted
I am lucky enough that pretty much nothing to do with my cycling is driven by need. I am way past needs and well into preferences. No doubt I could ride for 5+ hours without water without dying, but I rather think I would rather not. Ride without water that is. On Tuesday, November 25, 2014

[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water

2014-11-25 Thread ted
Jan, do most of the riders you know consume water at a similar rate? On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 6:07:35 AM UTC-8, Jan Heine wrote: The 40 miles per bottle were on soft gravel in daytime, which resulted in more work per mile than the stretch from Fort Rock to Prineville, most of which is

[RBW] Re: Speed Wobble on Big Rivs?

2014-11-25 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Prompted by this thread, I put my 60 cm double top tube'd Sam Hillborne to the test on my evening commute. One rear pannier stuffed with clothes and a trunk pack packed with some goods, but nothing too heavy. All in all I'd say a max of 10 lbs. I -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Speed Wobble on Big Rivs?

2014-11-25 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Sorry, I accidentally posted prematurely. . Here's the complete thought: Prompted by this thread, I put my 60 cm double top tube'd Sam Hillborne to the test on my evening commute. One rear pannier stuffed with clothes and a trunk pack on top of the rack packed with some goods, but nothing

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Campee Medium Rear Rack / Nitto Noodle Bars

2014-11-25 Thread Ryan
The bars are SOLD. Thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback and water

2014-11-25 Thread Anne Paulson
One time when I was touring up in far northern California I started off the day with three full water bottles. Come mid-afternoon, they were empty, but I figured I only had 12-14 flattish miles, so I didn't go down to the Feather River to treat water. Stupid move. I had 14 miles through the desert