[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Lynne Fitz
I prefer bar end shifting. Indexed or friction. I've got one of each. Also a bike with down-tube friction shifters. Once I remembered how to do it, everything worked fine. But I really prefer bar end shifting. On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:09:21 PM UTC-8, lungimsam wrote: If I love

Re: [RBW] In San Diego this week

2014-12-17 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Hey Curtis, dual bad news... I haven't found a bike and I'm not convinced I'll be wrapped from work by 530pm. Thurs would be better for me but I'm still probably bike-less. What do you think - next time? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread ascpgh
I'm with you Glen. When DT shifters were it, I was enjoying mountain biking and my shifters right there on the bar, by the brake levers. I have longer legs than my torso would dictate to production frame and my 60 cm road bike always had me feeling a little unsteady; those shifters were so far

[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
Please allow me to dissent. I resisted DT shifters like the plague, but three things brought me around to friction DT. You may or may not agree with my rationale: 1. Simplicity. Other than having no shifters at all, DT friction is the simplest approach. 2. Relatedly, reliability in all

[RBW] What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread ascpgh
Riding, besides my commutes, get a bit scant from here on out through winter. The season, the holidays, more deliberate prep for a trip in the conditions, plenty of things distract from just a nice ride but I realize that at this time every year I always seem to contemplate a bike project to

[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Michael Hechmer
I think it depends on the kind of riding you will be doing. I used bar ends for the 13 years I commuted into work surrounded by rush hour traffic. I liked the security of not leaving the handle bars or being far from the brake levers. For a similar reason I use BEs on the tandem because the

Re: [RBW] What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread Eric Daume
I'm doing a 650B conversion of my '83 Trek 620, too much reading BQ, I guess. Parts are already on the way. I'm also thinking about ordering a custom Chinese titanium 29+ frame. Eric On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 5:37 AM, ascpgh asc@gmail.com wrote: Riding, besides my commutes, get a bit scant

Re: [RBW] Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 12/17/2014 12:09 AM, lungimsam wrote: If I love friction bar end shifting, will I find friction DT shifting just as easy and enjoyable? Maybe, maybe not. For me, not. Never done it before, and seems like the reach may make it more difficult Exactly. For some people, when they drop

Re: [RBW] In San Diego this week

2014-12-17 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Thursday is out for me. Next time it is. Safe travels On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Curtis, dual bad news... I haven't found a bike and I'm not convinced I'll be wrapped from work by 530pm. Thurs would be better for me but I'm still probably

[RBW] Albas to noodles

2014-12-17 Thread Edwin W
'm going to swap out Albas for noodles. Thanks for the help so far and for these questions. I've never been a racer, always a rider and have loved my Albas for the last two years on my sam, but wanted a new bike and thought this was a cheaper way to go. Intrigued by more positions, I'm going

[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Ron Mc
Agree on the grew up with DT shifting. Of course have both and both are natural for me. Current DT is on my go-fast - it's natural for me on that ride, though I do shift less often. Never had a problem with my long spindly limbs. I have bar ends on my utility bike with moustache cockpit,

[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
I use DT shifters in traffic (90% of my riding is commuting) so I don't think that's a factor for me. Of course I do have arms like a gorilla, so reaching the shifters had never been a problem for me. I probably shift less than I did with BE, Ergo, etc. I do miss my old Command Shifters, but

[RBW] Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread shawn m.
My Hunqapillar has barend shifters, and I really like them, except when I knock them against the doorframe getting the bike in and out of the garage. When I built up my Atlantis this fall, I went with downtube shifters mostly because of cost-containment. I like the clean lines, and I like how

Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

2014-12-17 Thread Ron Mc
ebay bike parts scalper, who has Riv water bottles listed for $100. Teach your kids to suck it up? Merry Christmas. They'll have plenty of chances to learn that on their own. On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 12:09:30 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: What is PB Bikes? On Tuesday, December

Re: [RBW] Albas to noodles

2014-12-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 12/17/2014 07:41 AM, Edwin W wrote: How do you lengthen cable and housing. That's kind of a joke, because I cut it too short, but if you have a little extra cable CAN you throw in a little section of housing? Or will it buckle? In-line adjuster? Best way to lengthen a cut-too-short cable

Re: [RBW] Albas to noodles

2014-12-17 Thread Edwin W
Yes, Steve, I am learning, one job at a time. Edwin On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:52:31 AM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 12/17/2014 07:41 AM, Edwin W wrote: How do you lengthen cable and housing. That's kind of a joke, because I cut it too short, but if you have a little extra

Re: [RBW] Albas to noodles

2014-12-17 Thread Minh
this is one of those things that's easier to see then to describe. i'd suggest you troll the flickr groups and look at how others have done this, there are a few different options that work. On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:57:01 AM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote: Yes, Steve, I am learning, one job

[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Minh
for me a huge factor is how much you actually shift, i found DT shifters much more livable after i got my single-speed. i find the reach a little far, but in many cases i just don't shift :) but i'm one of the people that love the look versus bar-end shifters--especially bar-ends where you

[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Matthew J
Never done it before, and seems like the reach may make it more difficult and looks like there's a big potential for knees banging into forearms while pedalling and reaching down to shift at same time. What's your experience been with DT shifting? I suppose height and dexterity are an issue

[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Leslie
I think the 10-speed I had as a kid, had the shifters on the stem. But after I switched to a mountain-bike in college, I had grip shifts, and wasn't on another bike for over 15 years. When I built up my Ram, I went w/ the bar-ends on Noodles, was fine. With my Bomba, went with bar-ends

[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread Matthew J
Finally going to try out a kick back hub for an urban porteur. Should be on the streets around February. On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 4:37:11 AM UTC-6, ascpgh wrote: Riding, besides my commutes, get a bit scant from here on out through winter. The season, the holidays, more deliberate

[RBW] Albas to noodles

2014-12-17 Thread true
Edwin W wrote: How do you lengthen cable and housing. That's kind of a joke, because I cut it too short, but if you have a little extra cable CAN you throw in a little section of housing? Or will it buckle? I have used these Jagwire Aluminum Housing Connectors a few times with success.

Re: [RBW] Albas to noodles

2014-12-17 Thread cyclotourist
Definitely cheaper than a new bike... I think I spend more time fiddling with bike setups than riding!!! I run cables behind racks/baskets. For brake cables, I tend to run them more at around a 10 or 11 o'clock position under the tape. That makes a nice little shelf for hands, and puts them in

Re: [RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread Tim Gavin
A friend will braze on some rack and fender mounts (I will supervise and hold his beer) to my Schwinn KOM. Then I'm going to get the frame powder-coated; I'm thinking clear coat to show off the lugs, maybe with a light metal flake. I'm also going to spread the rear to 135 mm from 130, and

Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

2014-12-17 Thread Ron Mc
Deac, doesn't your father lavish you with $3000 bicycles? On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:18:37 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Thank you, Peter! Now I'm even more thankful we have no TV and don't buy plastic or electronic toys toys. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] It isn't winter yet

2014-12-17 Thread Jim Bronson
Because your public meta complaint has so much more value to the group? I started the PB Bikes thread which devolved into the anti-television thread but I enjoyed it. Sorry you didn't, but self-righteous is in the eye of the beholder. I rode my Rivendell custom 605 kilometers, or 376 miles last

[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread Will
General maintenance is my project. I finished refitting my son's 1983 Trek 613. It now has bar-ends, better fenders, an Altus rear der. (very nice), Riv's bolt-on brakes (also very nice), a new Top-Line rear light to replace an older BM model, and a BM eyc (from Riv) for the front. It's an

Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

2014-12-17 Thread Deacon Patrick
I'm not sure how to respond to this question, Ron. Is it a serious question? How did you arrive at it based on anything I've written? The simple answer is No. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:46:48 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: Deac, doesn't your father lavish you with $3000

Re: [RBW] What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread Toby Whitfield
I am doing the same conversion! The 1983 Trek 620 is the last sport touring model year with side pull calipers, as far as I can tell. It is a nice frame, with decent clearance, though it looks like only 38mm tires with fenders will fit. I am still thinking about the wheels. I have some Mafac

[RBW] Re: Albas to noodles

2014-12-17 Thread David Hays
My Uncle Gust-who my Father referred to as 'a plumber's carpenter'- used to say 'I cut it three times and it was still too short'. No one was hurt. We smile and learn. David On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:41:47 AM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote: 'm going to swap out Albas for noodles. Thanks for

[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread George Schick
One major project this Winter is to jump into the ring with a @#$% crankset/BB overhaul, or changeout, or maybe a combination of the two. If anything in the world could use a bit of standardization it would be this business of trying to match up BB spindle tapers and length with said

[RBW] Re: The new cycling revolution starts NOW! With one custom bike part! (Modified Silver Shifter)

2014-12-17 Thread Johan Larsson
Nice work. I wasn't aware of that lever angle detail before, and have learned something new! Thanks! Johan Larsson, Sweden On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:04:52 AM UTC+1, Bill Lindsay wrote: OK, that's a little hyperbolic, but I'm pretty excited. I like downtube shifters, and Silver

[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Clayton.sf
One (to me) huge advantage is the fact that DT are fairly well protected whereas bar end shifters live in a fairly exposed place when it comes to crashing, leaning, falling over. With a little practice both work just fine. Clayton, SF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Patrick Moore
It requires a slightly different technique, given that your hands don't grasp the shifters in the same way. With BES I use my fist and palm to shift, which gives very good control. With DTS it's my forefinger and thumb, or rather the forefinger and the palm directly underneath this finger, and the

Re: [RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Patrick Moore
Yeah, the one bike (Fargo) with BES has a big wad of bar tape padding on the top tube where the Silver shifters would otherwise contact the paint -- this tape is scarred from many contacts. Such contacts also annoyingly shift the levers which is something I have to anticipate when I first get on

[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread Kieran J
I hate threads like this. They get me scheming about projects I shouldn't even to begin to consider taking on. KJ On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 5:37:11 AM UTC-5, ascpgh wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

[RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

2014-12-17 Thread Phil Bickford
Thank You Joe I'M THINKING I MISSED SOMETHING, oops, caps off My time fortunately is not that valuable it seems. I need to get hep to read this group. PB Bikes. Mmmm, Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate What is PB Bikes? -- You received this message

RE: [RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
If you do try a kickback, I’d urge you to use one without a coaster brake – on my MB-2 Resurrectio, I used a 2-speed Sturmey Archer kickback with a coaster brake, and the braking results in shifting when I don’t want it to. Otherwise I like the kickback hub a lot. From:

[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
It occurs to me that the kind of handlebar you're using is also a factor. If you're using drops, DT is probably much more appealing than if you're using a sit-up handlebar of some sort. I'm a drop-bar user, and so find DT shifters natural. I expect if I ever shift to uprights, I'll want

[RBW] The new cycling revolution starts NOW! With one custom bike part! (Modified Silver Shifter)

2014-12-17 Thread Bill
Well I still have one bike in the fleet with 'tubers and this looks like just the ticket. At first glance I wondered why someone hadn't done these maybe 50 years ago. It's never too late. Great idea! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] It isn't winter yet

2014-12-17 Thread Goshen Peter
Hey I am one of the people who loves TV and my kid does too. I didn't take any of the anti-tv stuff as preachy or self-righteousness. People live their lives different ways and its interesting to hear about different styles of parenting and living. And yes it does relate back to bikes because I

[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Matthew J
I'm a drop-bar user, and so find DT shifters natural. I expect if I ever shift to uprights, I'll want something closer to my hands--likely a 3-speed trigger arrangement. Good points. I had drops on the Hilsen referenced above. My flat bar multi speed is a 1x6 matched to Paul Thumbies

Re: [RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread Matthew J
If you do try a kickback, I’d urge you to use one without a coaster brake – on my MB-2 Resurrectio, I used a 2-speed Sturmey Archer kickback with a coaster brake, and the braking results in shifting when I don’t want it to. Otherwise I like the kickback hub a lot. Definitely a concern. I

[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
I will join Andrew here, I love downtube friction shifting. Its simple with very fast derailer response to input. There is very little to go wrong. Even the entire cable is visible in case it starts to fail. Bar ends are great too just not Great. Its not as easy or as convenient as bar ends, by

Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

2014-12-17 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Everyone in my family knows that PB stands for Princess Bubblegum! On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:09:30 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: What is PB Bikes? On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:39:33 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: Maybe it's just winter grumpies, but this thread seems to be filled with

[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread RoadieRyan
Finishing a rebuild project - 1970s Torpado Alpha that has been dissembled for going on two months. Need to clean and wax frame, rebuild the main bearings, clean up the components and then reassemble with new parts. I find once I get going on the bearings the project starts to gather

[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Like many of the above replies, I have both set ups. I would say bar ends are better due to always being near at and (and I ride with my hands resting on them when I have Moustache bars). But, downtube shifters are fine on a bike you don't shift a whole bunch, and don't ride aggressively off

RE: [RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
1. Another mixte rebuild for a charity auction. This one is a Fuji Royale mixte (from, I think, 1981); quite a nice frame, repainted by Bruce at the Color Factory a tasteful Taxicab Yellow. It will get the same build as in past years – 3-speed Sturmey drum brake rear and Sturmey drum brake

Re: [RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Ron Mc
Those rubber shift lever covers were made for DT levers, but always seemed pretty pointless. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aaaPA180005.jpg However, they're absolutely necessary on bar end shifters to protect the top tube paint. On Wednesday, December 17,

Re: [RBW] Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Michael Hechmer
Although I prefer DTs, I will say that BEs are clearly the most ergonomically designed. Way more than SIS. Truth is both system work fine and no one should sweat about it too much one way or the other. Michael On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:11:58 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: It

[RBW] Re: Albas to noodles

2014-12-17 Thread dougP
Edwin: See the photo linked on Bill's first post on Phase 2 Atlantis build. He's got a head on shot of the cables exiting the bar tape. He also posted a photo of the bike with big front rack and a big front basket, so he had plenty of hardware to consider in his cable routing decision. On

[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Michael Hechmer
I would disagree that brifters are more convenient than BEs. I find pushing with my finger tips quite unnatural. Michael On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:41:04 AM UTC-5, Mojo wrote: I will join Andrew here, I love downtube friction shifting. Its simple with very fast derailer response to

Re: [RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Jim Bronson
I see lots of drop bar users with bar ends... Just saying. On Dec 17, 2014 10:23 AM, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro marchantshap...@gmail.com wrote: It occurs to me that the kind of handlebar you're using is also a factor. If you're using drops, DT is probably much more appealing than if you're

[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Ron Mc
I also love the subtle feel of pushing the bar end down with palm and everything shifting just like silk On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 12:04:48 PM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote: I would disagree that brifters are more convenient than BEs. I find pushing with my finger tips quite unnatural.

Re: [RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Ron Mc
Jim, have to agree with you about the obvious - no offense. Bar ends and a moustache cockpit are just perfect. I can see how stem shifters would be best with Albas and absolute sit-straight-up cycling. I did, however, hunt down Microshift 9-speed barcons for my daughter's first drop-bar

[RBW] Re: Albas to noodles

2014-12-17 Thread Bill Lindsay
How do you lengthen cable and housing. That's kind of a joke, because I cut it too short, but if you have a little extra cable CAN you throw in a little section of housing? Or will it buckle? Edwin I assume you are talking about proper shift cable housing, the stuff with parallel wires

Re: [RBW] What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread Patrick Moore
Eric: please report on the Chinese made 29er frame. Matthew: Ditto on the kickback. I keep mulling the alternatives of a S3X, a kickback, or a serendipitous TF find for extra wheels for my Rivendell fixies. With a kickback, incidentally, I'd want the coaster model, since I don't want to have to

Re: [RBW] PSA: Are you missing a large yellow Albatrossed A. Homer Hilsen ?

2014-12-17 Thread Chris Chen
Skate Or Die says you're full of it On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote: Welp, looks like I'm going to have to start rockin more stuff. Ah, forget it. I'll be honest - deep down I'm just an Un-Rocker. -Aaron Un-Rockin' 4 Life Young The Dalles, OR On

[RBW] Parts Purge Continues

2014-12-17 Thread Goshen Peter
More stuff for sale, Nitto lugged seatpost, usual insertion marks, looks great. A true piece of bike jewelry. $110 shipped. I will be parting out my too big for me 61cm Soma Grand Randonneur tonight, Riv wheels, typical Riv build. Its a lovely bike but the extension above the seattube is just a

Re: [RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Matthew J
because I didn't want her reaching into the wheel to shift What set up would lead to this? On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 12:27:01 PM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: Jim, have to agree with you about the obvious - no offense. Bar ends and a moustache cockpit are just perfect. I can see how stem

[RBW] Re: Parts Purge Continues

2014-12-17 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Peter, Just a thought on the Soma GR-- perhaps you used a saddle that's relatively tall? I think Brooks saddles sit higher (i.e., you need to put the seat post lower) than some other saddles. For example, look at this comparison on Ocean Air Cycles (4th photo down):

Re: [RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Ron Mc
hi Matthew, you calling me out? I didn't want my 12-year old daughter to deal with downtube shifters. If you think different I'm happy for you. On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 12:52:37 PM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote: because I didn't want her reaching into the wheel to shift What set up

Re: [RBW] Re: Parts Purge Continues

2014-12-17 Thread Goshen Peter
That is a good idea but I really like my saddle and setup and rather not suit my needs around the bike, if you know what I mean. Plus the GR has a nice lightweight tubeset which doesn't exactly mesh well with my largish body. It was a nice side project but alas I yam what I yam, a big dude with

[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread Kyle Brooks
I also have been planning a Trek 620 project -- though mine is a 1984 model, with canti brakes. I was just starting to pick up some parts for it (I got it as a frame and fork alone) when my water heater ruptured. That plus a fairly large car repair bill may have put the project on hold,

Re: [RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Matthew J
Not calling you out, sincerely did not follow. Shifting is personal. I have no say - nor want any - as to what others do. However on most bikes the rider's hand is as close to the wheel at the bottom of drop bars as at a down tube shifter. On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 1:10:36 PM

Re: [RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 12/17/2014 01:52 PM, Matthew J wrote: because I didn't want her reaching into the wheel to shift What set up would lead to this? The point is, there is no downtube shifter setup that would require anyone to reach into the wheel. In fact, you aren't anywhere even close to the wheel.

[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread George Schick
I prefer DT shifters, too, and agree with Andrew's 1-2-3 items along with other positive replies on the list. Like others have experienced, I grew up with DT's and just got used to them. Bar-con's were the next evolutionary step, but I never cared much for them for some of the reasons listed

[RBW] Re: New Cheviot

2014-12-17 Thread Cecily Walker
Your photos really do that colour justice. Best ones I've seen yet. Happy riding! On Friday, December 12, 2014 5:29:08 PM UTC-8, Kellie Stapleton wrote: My new luscious green Cheviot I built up about 2 weeks ago!

Re: [RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 12/17/2014 02:44 PM, George Schick wrote: Plus, if you're used to riding with hands on the brake lever hoods, as I assume most of us are, you still have to reach down to the end of the drops with one hand or the other. With the DT's only one hand is required to do all the shifting - and you

[RBW] Re: Parts Purge Continues

2014-12-17 Thread Goshen Peter
Ok, seatpost is spoken for. I have a set of paul brakes brand new with upgraded kool stop mountain pads, front neo retro, rear touring. $125 for a bikes worth. Will post more as I find more. Thanks all Peter On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: More

[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Right now I'm most of the way through converting our Trek T200 Tandem from drop bars to uprights. It's an eight speed w/ Sachs brifters, and I'm moving to Albatross with thumbshifters and MTB brake levers up front, and a Dove bar in the back. Building it with used parts from the parts bin, this

[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread Philip Williamson
I'm putting my Gravel Roadster https://flic.kr/p/duQUJZ back together. It has a taller Brooks saddle, and I may put longer cranks and VP-001s on it, to get the seatpost min insertion line back inside the frame. Or give it to the child. Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, December 17,

[RBW] Re: Parts Purge Continues

2014-12-17 Thread Goshen Peter
Brushed silver, sorry. On Dec 17, 2014 3:03 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, seatpost is spoken for. I have a set of paul brakes brand new with upgraded kool stop mountain pads, front neo retro, rear touring. $125 for a bikes worth. Will post more as I find more. Thanks all

Re: [RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread George Schick
OK, I'll say uncle on this one. I stand 5' 9 and have slightly disproportionately shorter legs vs. slightly longer torso ratio. And I ride a 54cm frame. So for me to reach down is no big deal, but I realize that it might be a big issue for those of taller heights and more proportionate

[RBW] Bending back a bent fork

2014-12-17 Thread Anne Paulson
My adult son has a Rambouillet. He commutes on it. This guy doesn't ride lightly; he has more of a bulldozer approach to riding, it seems. One time he broke a frame by riding into a parked car. Yeah, his steel Trek frame broke at the head tube; I was so pleased that the frame broke to protect that

Re: [RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Scott Henry
I think a lot of it comes from what you were riding when you came of age in cycling. Something about teaching an old dog and new tricks. Scott On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:51 PM, George Schick bhim...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I'll say uncle on this one. I stand 5' 9 and have slightly

[RBW] Re: Bending back a bent fork

2014-12-17 Thread Bill Lindsay
Within reason, sure. There was/is a shop tool that clamps to the fork tips like a hub would, and braces itself on the BB shell and you turn a leadscrew to push it back out. If the forkblades are wrinkled at all, then you get a little more queasy about it. Feel under the top tube and down

Re: [RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Matthew J
Those rubber shift lever covers were made for DT levers, but always seemed pretty pointless. Speaking of fair's fair, this is a very clever idea. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: Bending back a bent fork

2014-12-17 Thread Goshen Peter
I had a bikeshop do this for me years ago, they had a jig they put the fork in and just mainupulated it until it was true to the jig. Now my fork was squashed in shipping so not sure about the front to back bending. On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Within

Re: [RBW] Re: Bending back a bent fork

2014-12-17 Thread David
Yellow Jersey did it on my XO-5. Extremely fast turnaround and perfect job. Can't tell visually or functionally that it was ever bent. David Sent from my iPhone On Dec 17, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I had a bikeshop do this for me years ago, they had a

[RBW] Re: Bending back a bent fork

2014-12-17 Thread Deacon Patrick
A! Part of the beauty of steel! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] calendars

2014-12-17 Thread Eunice Chang
Hi all, Thought Riv folks might be interested: I've made a calendar full of my bike photos (including a hilsen) and am offering it for sale. I don't make a profit - I'm donating the calendar sales to a local bike advocacy organization, Bike Durham. If you're interested, take a look here:

[RBW] 61cm Soma Grand Randonneur FFHS

2014-12-17 Thread Goshen Peter
So while is sort out who wants what parts FS is a great condition FFHS. headset is tange,BB is 113, can include if needed/wanted. Frame has less than 500 miles and only has wear from buildups, no chips nicks or dents that I could see when I built it up. Link to soma page and info

Re: [RBW] 61cm Soma Grand Randonneur FFHS

2014-12-17 Thread Jim Bronson
What's the C-C on the seat tube? I had a 65 but it had a really big extension above the center, so it was sort of misnomer that it was a 65. It was more like a 58 or a 60 from C-C. I sold it. So what is this one like? On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com

Re: [RBW] 61cm Soma Grand Randonneur FFHS

2014-12-17 Thread Goshen Peter
this one is similar, the ctc on the seatube is about 56cm, with 5 and change above the seattube. On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: What's the C-C on the seat tube? I had a 65 but it had a really big extension above the center, so it was sort of misnomer

[RBW] Does anyone have a rack mount, battery powered tail light to sell or trade?

2014-12-17 Thread Patrick Moore
I don't want to hassle with rear wiring. I can use either a 2-bolt or a single-bolt light; want one that uses standard AA or AAA batteries. Not interested in Planet Bike or other standard seatpost mount US blinkies: want a rack mount light, either steady or flashing. Will be happy to trade in

[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread RJM
This winter I am going to rebuild my 1996 Specialized Stumpjumper so that means I am going to buy a new suspension fork, some tires, maybe some shifters for it...I think I have the rest. I'm going to be selling my Sam Hillborne since I bought a sweet dual suspension mountain bike and kinda

[RBW] Re: Does anyone have a rack mount, battery powered tail light to sell or trade?

2014-12-17 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
PB makes a nice rack mount adapter for its blinkies...I used to use one, but decided it was worth the trouble to hook up dynamo wiring. Trust me, it's *really worth the trouble!!!* On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 5:19:06 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: I don't want to hassle with rear wiring.

Re: [RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread Patrick Moore
Damned household expenses get in the way of bike expenditure, don't they? Me, my problem is insufficient income. (Well, and my promise to my daughter that I will redecorate her bedroom -- new (modest) furniture -- before she goes off to college -- she's 13.) On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 12:22 PM,

[RBW] Re: Does anyone have a rack mount, battery powered tail light to sell or trade?

2014-12-17 Thread John Hawrylak
I bought a Planet Bike Superflash and the Plant Bike plastic rack mount which bolts to the 2 holes in the Nitto rear rack and has a slider holder in the middle to allow the light to slide in and lock. The plastic rack mount was app $5 and it came up on Amazon when I searched for the

Re: [RBW] Re: Does anyone have a rack mount, battery powered tail light to sell or trade?

2014-12-17 Thread Patrick Moore
Good men can disagree. I do like the always on quality of a dynamo rear light, But!! 1. The Toplight seems to me to be rather dim. 2. More bad, I don't like wire zip tied or taped to, *seriatim,* top tube, top of right seat stay, and then spanning the length of the rear rack, unsupported --

Re: [RBW] Re: Does anyone have a rack mount, battery powered tail light to sell or trade?

2014-12-17 Thread Patrick Moore
Do you mean this? [image: Inline image 1] I used one to mount two chronologically distinct PB Superflashes on the rear of said rack and had both bounce off the mount after breaking the clip, hit the pavement, and explode into pieces when I hit one of our many 5 pavement expansion cracks. (Same

Re: [RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Patrick Moore
But I have your back. On my 58 cm Ram, I -- 5'10, mostly torso, short arms (damn! I can't reach my change!!) and simply drop my arm loosely from my shoulder and find the dt shifter. There *is* one more variable; how inclined your body is in your typical riding positions. My road bars are ~1 below

[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2014-12-17 Thread Deacon Patrick
Riding, running, and snowshoeing as much as I can, and new brakes for the Quickbeam from Saint Nicholas to aid my Quickbeam single track tomfoolery. Grin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [RBW] 61cm Soma Grand Randonneur FFHS

2014-12-17 Thread Goshen Peter
Sorry, still coming up with prices. VP Gripsters, the grey off the site as seen on bike. $50 shipped. Damn, forgot pic. Parting out, buying a complete bike so cranks, pedals, bars etc all FS. On Dec 17, 2014 5:13 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: this one is similar, the ctc on

Re: [RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Ron Mc
after the lecture, that's condescension.. here's my daughter's frame, her first drop bar and fast steering bike - she had problems steering it for the first 100 miles. In everything, she is an aggressive charger. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/Fuji/aP6220007.jpg

Re: [RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-17 Thread Ron Mc
I see, that was Steve's lecture - par for the course. On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 1:43:04 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 12/17/2014 01:52 PM, Matthew J wrote: because I didn't want her reaching into the wheel to shift What set up would lead to this? The point is, there

[RBW] Re: Bending back a bent fork

2014-12-17 Thread Philip Williamson
It's probably fine. I did have a ten speed in high school where I hit something and bent the fork. My dad bent it back, and it worked, until I hit the back wheel of another high school cyclist making a U turn in the middle of the road. The fork bent way further than it had originally, and my

[RBW] calendars

2014-12-17 Thread Pondero
Lovely photos, Eunice. Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [RBW] 61cm Soma Grand Randonneur FFHS

2014-12-17 Thread justinaugust
I'm wheelset curious if you're selling. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

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