Re: Noodles uncomfortable? Was: [RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

2016-10-27 Thread drew
I love my noodles, though I don't go into the drops that often and am mostly on the brake hoods. I'm intrigued by dirt drops, but Do you lose some of the comfort of the hoods position when the levers are angled inward like that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: Noodles uncomfortable? Was: [RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

2016-10-27 Thread Don Compton
I rode noodles for years using Campy Ergo Shifters. On my latest Roadeo, I installed a Shimano 6800 group ( with Shimano std reach brakes). The brifters are longer and I needed a shorter reach bar. If I had used a shorter stem, the tops of the bars of the Noodles would have been useless. So, I

Noodles uncomfortable? Was: [RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

2016-10-27 Thread Richard Rios
I like the noodles. I like the dirt drop to. Both great bars as far as drops go. They look good and make my bike happy. What else could you want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Noodles uncomfortable? Was: [RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

2016-10-27 Thread 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch
Since people seem to be voting, I'll cast my vote. I want a couple of simple things in a handlebar. I want a flat and short top that blends seamlessly into Ergo levers and I want a hand position in the drops that's comfortable. I guess I have to admit that I can't recall whether or not the

[RBW] Joe Appaloosa and Thursday Night Football

2016-10-27 Thread Abcyclehank
Just arrived home after an 11 hr workday before rushing out to catch a sneak preview of Inferno. While checking email and google group lists I turned on the game to see the butternut colored Jaguars getting dominated by the blue colored Titans 0-27 at halftime. Does the fact football triggers

[RBW] Re: FS: Nigel Smythe Country Bag and Ortlieb Bike Packer Plus Panniers

2016-10-27 Thread Bob K.
Country Bag sold pending pickup. Panniers still available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] OT PSA: Ibex merino shirts at Sierra Trading Post

2016-10-27 Thread Shawn Granton
Hello folks- Just saw that Sierra Trading Post has gotten in A BUNCH of merino wool t-shirts from Ibex. I just ordered a few! The supplies are pretty limited, so doubt they'd last more than a few days. And most of them are about $40, though the 87% wool/13% nylon shirt is just $25! See what

Re: Noodles uncomfortable? Was: [RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

2016-10-27 Thread JohnS
Hello Olof, I'm in the not a big fan of the Noodle bar club as well. I have a pair laying around in the garage which had come on the QB when I bought it last February. I've been riding the VO rando bars at the 50cm width for the past few years. They rise up from the stem, which is

Re: [RBW] FENDERS ON THE CHEVIOT

2016-10-27 Thread René Sterental
Thank you. Don't hesitate to contact me if you have any questions or need more specific guidance. René On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Bob Lovejoy wrote: > Thanks René, > > Very much appreciated... I knew that at least 50's would be needed but I > was unsure of clearance

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot build in progress

2016-10-27 Thread René Sterental
Awesome! On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 1:54 PM, adam leibow wrote: > wow this is so nice. i love the new cheviots, especially this grey color. > > > On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 at 7:22:58 PM UTC-7, RonaTD wrote: >> >> I have started the construction process on my Cheviot.

[RBW] Re: Rosco v.3

2016-10-27 Thread Abcyclehank
Tall hurts too because these look fun. Waiting for a 100PBH Rosco. At least I have a XL Hubba Hubba coming in February. Ryan Hankinson West Michigan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: Noodles uncomfortable? Was: [RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

2016-10-27 Thread Lungimsam
I've always loved my noodle bars. they been great for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: Noodles uncomfortable? Was: [RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

2016-10-27 Thread iamkeith
I like the noodle, but it's predecessor - the RM 13 dirt drop - is my favorite. I had the former on my Rambouillet until this summer, and the later on my Quickbeam. Every time I got on the Quickbeam, I was struck by the contrast of how comfortable the bars were, and regretful that I didn't

[RBW] Re: Cheviot build in progress

2016-10-27 Thread adam leibow
wow this is so nice. i love the new cheviots, especially this grey color. On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 at 7:22:58 PM UTC-7, RonaTD wrote: > > I have started the construction process on my Cheviot. Frame is a 55, so > 650B wheels. Saddle height is 72cm. Color is gray. Details so far … old BoB

[RBW] Re: New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-27 Thread drew
HAHA i had the exact same experience in japan. i actually showed up at bluelug at like 10am. never made it back when they were open. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Re: New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-27 Thread David Stein
The name growing on me. The headbadge is badass. As a quickbeam owner (that is woefully neglected at the moment), I am super psyched about a new single speed. I was in Tokyo the other week for work and really wanted to go to a blue lug and wasn't staying too terribly far from one, maybe 2 or 3

Re: [RBW] Re: New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
I really like the wing motif on the Frank Jones headbadge, and I freaking love the ruler on the underside of the downtube decal. I hope that's real and not just some printmakers reference. It's a terrific look, in my opinion, and will look fine on the next revision of the poster that has all

[RBW] Re: In search of trade: Long shot, at that - 56cm Hillborne for something that fits me better

2016-10-27 Thread Belopsky
Search continues. Message me off list if you have something. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: Noodles uncomfortable? Was: [RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

2016-10-27 Thread Eric Norris
I've had trouble with long-term comfort on Noodles; I came away from PBP in 2007 (ridden on Noodles) with hand numbness. I generally have better luck on long rides with more traditional (flatter) bars. However, my Singer came with Nitto randonneur bars, which are like Noodle bars on steroids,

Re: Noodles uncomfortable? Was: [RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

2016-10-27 Thread Brewster Fong
On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 11:08:59 AM UTC-7, Olof Stroh wrote: > > Grant wrote: > > I THINK the consensus here is that a Noodle still wins (my vote, but > that's to be expected, I'm sure). > > > > I had a Nitto 176 aka Dream Bar I bought from Riv and loved. Read the > praise for

Re: [RBW] New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-27 Thread Edwin W
Heh Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Bump: FS: Men's thick wool vest

2016-10-27 Thread Patrick Moore
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Made in USA. 22" across back from bottom of armhole to bottom of armhole; > 23" from top of neck tape to bottom of back hem. It is marked Large. > > Wool is in excellent condition; no holes or worn spots. The tape is a

Re: Noodles uncomfortable? Was: [RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

2016-10-27 Thread Patrick Moore
I found the Noodles quite comfortable, once I ditched the wide ones and went back to 42s. I found I had to use a stem 1 cm longer, as they curve back a bit from the flats. The drop is deeper than I personally like, but the ramps are adequately long to be useful. At any rate, my wrists felt fine.

Re: Noodles uncomfortable? Was: [RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

2016-10-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
Noodle still wins for me. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 11:08:59 AM UTC-7, Olof Stroh wrote: > > Grant wrote: > > I THINK the consensus here is that a Noodle still wins (my vote, but > that's to be expected, I'm sure). > > > > I had a Nitto 176 aka Dream Bar I

Re: Noodles uncomfortable? Was: [RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

2016-10-27 Thread Wally Estrella
The Noodle has worked best for me on all the drops I've tried. I have them on 3 different bikes. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AaD2apK6asw/maxresdefault.jpg The 176 looks like a nice bar too. On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 2:08:59 PM UTC-4, Olof Stroh wrote: > > Grant wrote: > > I THINK the

Re: Noodles uncomfortable? Was: [RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

2016-10-27 Thread Ryan Fleming
I have Dream bars and I like them On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 1:08:59 PM UTC-5, Olof Stroh wrote: > > Grant wrote: > > I THINK the consensus here is that a Noodle still wins (my vote, but > that's to be expected, I'm sure). > > > > I had a Nitto 176 aka Dream Bar I bought from Riv and

Noodles uncomfortable? Was: [RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

2016-10-27 Thread olofstroh
Grant wrote: I THINK the consensus here is that a Noodle still wins (my vote, but that's to be expected, I'm sure). I had a Nitto 176 aka Dream Bar I bought from Riv and loved. Read the praise for Noodles, bought them and tried to love them but found them to be murder for my wrists. They

[RBW] Re: FS: Deore shifters/pedals, Brand V barrel bag, wool vest, and more!

2016-10-27 Thread Shawn Granton
OK, bump. I still have a few things left that I'd like to get rid of, so I've lowered prices. Consider this a 48 hour sale of sorts: If I don't get bites by 10 pm Pacific Time on Saturday, the stuff will no longer be offered. I may sit on the items for awhile, donate, or in the case of a few

Re: [RBW] New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-27 Thread James Warren
hah! (Thanks) Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2016, at 10:18 AM, Grant Petersen wrote: > > JIm, you win the covered HUH Prize, as the first responder to a contest most > didn't know was a contest! I will send you something in the mail designed to > elicit the same

Re: [RBW] New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-27 Thread Grant Petersen
JIm, you win the covered HUH Prize, as the first responder to a contest most didn't know was a contest! I will send you something in the mail designed to elicit the same response again! On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:12 AM, James Warren wrote: > huh > > Sent from my iPhone

Re: [RBW] New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-27 Thread James Warren
huh Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2016, at 9:09 AM, "Grant @ Rivendell" wrote: > > The only lug that doesn't allow angle-versatility is the CLEM lug, which is > why we got the curvy seat stays--so we could make the chainsays the length we > wanted. The upper seat stay

[RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

2016-10-27 Thread Lungimsam
Unless the bars come from Nitto that way. I mean. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [RBW] New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-27 Thread Tim Gavin
Very cool, Grant. I figured (correctly) it was something you cooked up to make a single seat lug casting work with any stay angle. Lugged seat clusters for all! On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > The only lug that doesn't allow angle-versatility

[RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

2016-10-27 Thread Lungimsam
Thanks for the info. I have them on my Rambouillet. They are shorter ramps for sure but that's one of the reasons I got them. Very comfortable. But after using noodles for so long I'm used to the bend back on the tops. But seems like they're just as comfortable as noodles. Even for a century

Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

2016-10-27 Thread Jim Bronson
I thought anatomical bars were the ones with a flattish section in the downward bend for a flat "in the drops" position. No? These are also available in 31.8 as well which is cool for those that need it, has an "SSB" in the product name. Don't think Rivendell carries but can be found on

Re: [RBW] New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-27 Thread Grant @ Rivendell
The only lug that doesn't allow angle-versatility is the CLEM lug, which is why we got the curvy seat stays--so we could make the chainsays the length we wanted. The upper seat stay socket is cast into the lug, so isn't variable. But structurally, it is SUPER. The lug and seat stay cap combo

[RBW] Re: Nitto M151F bar story behind it on all those riv builds lately?

2016-10-27 Thread Grant @ Rivendell
We like them because they have a flattish ramp and a the only good looking ana-bend ever. I THINK the consensus here is that a Noodle still wins (my vote, but that's to be expected, I'm sure)...but we don't automatically dislike handlebars we didn't design! It's a nice bar. The reach is super

[RBW] Re: Rosco v.3

2016-10-27 Thread Philip Kim
nope, sizing wouldn't work for me at all. once of the downfalls of being short On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote: > > I like the color. Would this size even work for you Phil? > > On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 8:28:52 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote: >> >> I like

Re: [RBW] Re: New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-27 Thread David Stein
I'm in no way saying i wouldn't enjoy the bike, but there's a certain appeal in the name and Rivendell has always had incredibly awesome names. On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > It's a little sad to me that there are people who would fail to enjoy >

[RBW] Rosco v2 has landed!

2016-10-27 Thread Jon BALER
Nice! Mine should be arriving at Gravel and Grind very soon. Yes, the v2 was going to be glossy machine green. I look forward to seeing it in person. http://roscobubbe.tumblr.com Jon Ellicott City -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Rosco v.3

2016-10-27 Thread iamkeith
Description of both being "roadish" does seem slightly suspect. It's interesting that they intentionally cropped off the handlebars in the photos of #5. A quick comparison tells me it might be similar to a 58cm production Joe, which would fit roughly the same size. Top tube is slightly

Re: [RBW] Re: New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
It's a little sad to me that there are people who would fail to enjoy their bike if it had a different name. For what it's worth, Hunqapillar is a family name that Grant saw on a mailbox on tour. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Rosco v.3

2016-10-27 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
If you follow the links to the Riv website, there are geometry diagrams among the pictures. On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 5:11:00 PM UTC+3, iamkeith wrote: > > Where are you seeing the geometry specifications, Jay? I must be missing > something. And I've been wondering too. The green #5

[RBW] Re: Rosco v.3

2016-10-27 Thread iamkeith
Never mind. I refreshed my browser, and I see that they've added a diagram. On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 8:11:00 AM UTC-6, iamkeith wrote: > > Where are you seeing the geometry specifications, Jay? I must be missing > something. And I've been wondering too. The green #5 is the first

[RBW] Re: Rosco v.3

2016-10-27 Thread iamkeith
Where are you seeing the geometry specifications, Jay? I must be missing something. And I've been wondering too. The green #5 is the first Rosco that's fit me, and I happen to think it is proportionally gorgeous with the extra tube. But being "roadish geometry" and limited to 40mm tires,

[RBW] Re: Rosco v.3

2016-10-27 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
#s 4 and 5 are for about the same range of PBH and saddle heights, but they are very different designs. #4 is 58 x 57.5, 45 cm chain stays, a nearly horizontal top tube and 33.3mm clearances #5 has a 55 cm st with a 60 cm upsloping tt, Clemish chainstays, tires up to 40mm and a longer head tube

[RBW] Re: Cheviot build in progress

2016-10-27 Thread Jon Dukeman,central Colorado
Ted, Looks like a fun build for you. Keep us updated on the progress...photos. Jon On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 at 8:22:58 PM UTC-6, RonaTD wrote: > I have started the construction process on my Cheviot. Frame is a 55, so > 650B wheels. Saddle height is 72cm. Color is gray. Details so far …

[RBW] Re: Rosco v.3

2016-10-27 Thread Belopsky
I like the color. Would this size even work for you Phil? On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 8:28:52 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote: > > I like it. That lift bar seems super handy coming from someone who always > has to lug his bike up and down stairs. > > singlespeed and derailleur options as well. >

[RBW] Re: Rosco v.3

2016-10-27 Thread Philip Kim
I like it. That lift bar seems super handy coming from someone who always has to lug his bike up and down stairs. singlespeed and derailleur options as well. On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 at 6:56:30 PM UTC-4, Matt Rhodes wrote: > > Looks like Rosco v.3 is available for pre-order: >

[RBW] Re: Rosco v.3

2016-10-27 Thread Belopsky
"Eww gross" - Valley Girl On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 8:02:36 AM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote: > > Not understanding the gross part of your comment. I'm glad they are doing > some unique projects. I think they already pretty much acknowledged that > some would like them and others not do

[RBW] Re: Rosco v.3

2016-10-27 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
Not understanding the gross part of your comment. I'm glad they are doing some unique projects. I think they already pretty much acknowledged that some would like them and others not do much. Choice and variety is a thing in my book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: Rosco v.3

2016-10-27 Thread Belopsky
Ugh, gross. I guess this is Riv's way of saying "Hey buy our bikes, they're like our mainline but slightly different, and we're not comfortable charging you $950 for a frame that will ride as well as our $2000 frames, so we need to differentiate them a bit more" -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: New BLUG post! Frank Jones Sr

2016-10-27 Thread Joe Bernard
I love my Joe Appaloosa with the cool horsey name and graphics; I think it's fits well with the sky blue paint 'cause I picture a beautiful horse under a sunny sky. But I couldn't for the life of me explain to someone what Joe Appaloosa means, or why it's presented as the maker of the bike,