[RBW] Re: Hunq rider in Kingston NY

Hey Jason, Mark is right, you spotted me! Part of my morning commute to Uptown Kingston, I was making the trek to higher ground that morning ; ) It's also true, as Mark mentioned, that I opened a shop uptown recently. I'd love to meet any and all Riv riders/enthusiasts in the Hudson Valley

[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

I'll play: my stock Joe Appaloosa 55 with R14 top rack, large saddlesack (and various daily items), frame pump, mystery-brand Albatross clones and 29x2.1 Smart Sams weighs in at 36.6 pounds. On Sunday, August 3, 2014 at 3:04:20 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote: > > Since there has been curiosity

[RBW] Re: FS: 61 cm A. Homer Hilsen; once more, with feeling

Sold. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: FS Mark's Rack's, Silver Shifters, Brooks ect.

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

Bumping this old thread: Weighed my 56cm Riv Atlantis (Toyo build, if it matters) *24.6lbs *w/ the Mavic Crossmax and RTP tires and no weight-saving parts taken into consideration. I built it up as my gravel/dirt bike. Would be nice to get it lighter but this is good enough. Might try tubeless

Re: [RBW] Re: FS Mark's Rack's, Silver Shifters, Brooks ect.

Thanks Joe. Not sure how or why I did that? It was supposed to be a private correspondence. It was the wrong address anyhow and I deleted the post. On Jun 19, 2017 5:45 PM, "Joe Bernard" wrote: > I don't recommend posting private addresses online. If you're on mobile > you

Re: [RBW] Re: FS Mark's Rack's, Silver Shifters, Brooks ect.

I don't recommend posting private addresses online. If you're on mobile you need to scroll down to click Desktop, then you can use the menu for Private Messages. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: Breaking in a leather Brooks

I'm glad I checked here with you guys first. I had a feeling that there are no shortcuts. I ended up buying a new B17 Standard in Honey. I also picked up a Nitto S83 seatpost to help make saddle tilt easier. I already have a rain cover. I can't wait to get it mounted so I can try it out.

[RBW] Re: Breaking in a leather Brooks

Remember the method in one of the first Readers? Something about dipping it in a bucket of water, then...I can't remember the next 8 steps. Don't dip it in a bucket of water! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: 58cm Atlantis for sale $1,100

Ya, I guess the stack and reach between the 61cm Atlantis and the XL Romanceur are just about identical. Only the SO is higher on the crust. If it was a bit lower I'd definitely be tempted by one. Not that I need another bike. And honestly, My Appaloosa does all that I could hope for and I

[RBW] Re: Breaking in a leather Brooks

JUST SAY NO to breaking in Brooks saddle tricks. You will find they are plenty soft and will be broken in by 50 mi. If you play any games with them, you will shorten the life, and IMO they don't last long enough. My Brooks never need breaking in - the newer the better. -- You received

[RBW] Breaking in a leather Brooks

I have an older THICK Black b17 that I think I'm ready to part with. If you're interested. - Justin, Oakland -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] FS: soma portola, nitto stem, gran compe levers

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[RBW] FS Albastache and Crust stem

Both are sold and thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: How does Compass tire compare with Pari Moto?

I can't tell the difference between Pari-Moto and compass while riding. In the same width they feel about the same to me. I like the Pari-moto because they are cheap to buy and I'm not a high mileage rider so 1500mi lasts long enough that something else interesting comes out. Like I want the

[RBW] Re: Breaking in a leather Brooks

I echo what others have said: Sparingly use Proofhide (or something similar) and then just ride it. I do recommend covering it in the rain; wet leather stretches much more easily than dry leather, and riding a soaked saddle will misshape it. I keep a $3 shower cap in my repair kit, and it

Re: [RBW] Re: FS Mark's Rack's, Silver Shifters, Brooks ect.

Hi Dareck, An issue with your zip. They claim it's not valid. Here's what I have. Dareck Stringfield Deloitte Tax LLP 695 E. Main St Stamford, CT 06902 I tried with your home address and forgot about this address. I checked the address in google maps and it's a place and I checked the zip and

[RBW] Re: 58cm Atlantis for sale $1,100

Hi Ryan, I've actually already bought a replacement frame, but not a Riv. It just took too long to find a 61, and I can't afford a new one at this point. I bought a Crust Romanceur. On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 2:21:54 PM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote: > > hopefully a 61cm will surface for you at

[RBW] Re: Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

yeah, Mark, I think it was your experience that as well as the price for a new cassette PW that made me consider other alternatives. The WI hubs are really nice On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 11:06:37 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: > > WHITE, do not go with Phil. I had three failed Phil Wood

[RBW] Re: 58cm Atlantis for sale $1,100

hopefully a 61cm will surface for you at some point On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 1:03:28 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: > > Oh, funds are in USD! I should have mentioned. > > On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 12:51:58 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: >> >> Up for sale is my 58cm Rivendell Atlantis. Owned

[RBW] Re: Breaking in a leather Brooks

I'd go easy on the Proofhide, and would not use it until you've ridden the saddle a bit. The "new" B17 uses a less thick hide than the older version IMHO, so they tend to break in quicker. Also, resist the urge to touch the tension bolt. On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 11:12:14 AM UTC-4,

[RBW] Re: Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

I won't pretend to be an engineer or anything like that, but thinking aloud is it that difficult to design and make a freehub that just works ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [RBW] Breaking in a leather Brooks

I bought a blue Brooks to match my first-ever bike build some years ago. Rode it for an hour, then took it off because it chafed. A month later, I tried again. Maybe a couple of rides. Still hated it. This went on for a couple of years, until I had three or four hundred kilometres on the

Re: [RBW] Breaking in a leather Brooks

True, but it's not like a B.17 needs all that much in the way of break-in. Especially not compared to the Team Pro. Do your initial application of Proofide / Obenaufs top and bottom, and go ride. I found (back when B.17s were working for me) that straight out of the box they were good for

[RBW] Re: FS Mark's Rack's, Silver Shifters, Brooks ect.

Update,update on what's still available and some price drops: *Cleaning out the Garage.* > > > 1. Thompson Elite 16 mm Setback Post 27.2mm/330mm (slightly used)- > price > drop $60 plus shipping > > > 2. Thompson Elite Straight 27.2mm/ cut 300mm (used)-price drop $50 > plus >

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Thanks, Garth, this is helpful. I have the same levers as you, the RX 4.1 for road diameter bar ends. Your response confirms that all of the brake calipers I tried these with levers were likely a poor fit and that the fault of the misfit likely resides with the caliper and not the lever, or

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Sheeit. I meant: "A front *double* ought to work just fine ..." On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > ... > A front triple ought to work just fine with this crank; ... > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Regarding chain suck/dislodging: I think it's a subtle fd adjustment problem. From the photo, you may not be able to drop the fd, but if you can, it looks as if there is room to do so, and this might make shifting more precise. Second, and I think even more important, the proper fore/aft angle of

[RBW] Re: 58cm Atlantis for sale $1,100

Oh, funds are in USD! I should have mentioned. On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 12:51:58 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: > > Up for sale is my 58cm Rivendell Atlantis. Owned since spring of 2014. > Located in Canada, but will ship to the USA. > > Pretty sad to sell it, but it's always been just a hair

[RBW] Re: 58cm Atlantis for sale $1,100

[RBW] 58cm Atlantis for sale $1,100

Up for sale is my 58cm Rivendell Atlantis. Owned since spring of 2014. Located in Canada, but will ship to the USA. Pretty sad to sell it, but it's always been just a hair under-sized for my tastes. If it was a 61cm, I'd keep it for life. Easily the best bike I've ever owned, but that won't

Re: [RBW] Roadini at RBW

The new seat lug doesn't care what the seat tube angle or any of that it--it rotates to accommodate. That is a convenience, but in the rotation dept it's no diff than a standard side-braze. The original Trek lugs from '78 or so were totally fixed angles, as were the dropouts, and each size had its

[RBW] FS: Pair of Pari Moto 650Bx42 tires

I've used them for about 100 miles. Folding bead. $45 shipped (CONUS) for both. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: How does Compass tire compare with Pari Moto?

Trying a pair of compasses at some point seems inevitable for me! On Monday, 19 June 2017 07:33:38 UTC-7, Cameron Sharp wrote: > > I'll add my voice to the chorus: I was hesitant about BSPs, since I ride > on crappy Brooklyn streets, but I purchased them anyway. I've ridden nearly >

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Leif, The levers I have are Tekto RX 4.1. The cable pull for canti brakes is the same as sidepull, you can use them for both, just as plain road levers also work fine with canti brakes. My canti brakes are the common Shimano BR-M732, BR-MC70, and Sun Tour XC Pro. The ST are decidely low profile

[RBW] Breaking in a leather Brooks

As others have said just Proofide or Obenauf's initially with a new saddle, but I wouldn't worry about it with used. Anything you buy will likely have been treated when new, so just hop on and ride. The only need for it later will be to apply a bit if the leather looks like it's starting to dry

[RBW] Re: Breaking in a leather Brooks

Proofhide then just ride on it. Over the years, I've used 3 Brooks B-17s. Only one took longer than a couple of weeks to become comfortable, and that one perhaps a month. A rain cover is a good idea as they don't like to get soaked. dougP On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 8:12:14 AM UTC-7,

[RBW] Re: Rear hub for Atlantis build: WI or PW?

WHITE, do not go with Phil. I had three failed Phil Wood hubs (the newest style) on my Atlantis until I finally switched. I have a Paul hub back there (Industry 9 freehub mechanism) and a White on my other bike. Both have been 100% perfect since I first laced them up. I used to have an

[RBW] Re: Breaking in a leather Brooks

Keep it simple. Ride often. Use a cover if you're going to be riding in very wet weather, but if you don't it's not the end of the world. I apply Montana Pitch Blend to my saddle every thousand km or so, or if it gets very wet, once it's dried out. I don't feel Brooks saddles need a pre

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Garth, I like what you're saying about bar end brake levers, but are there good levers to buy? I've tried the tektro 3.2x or whatever they're called, but I ran out of lever pull with cantis, side pulls, and centerpulls. NB, these were all vintage calipers, so perhaps these Tektro bar end brake

[RBW] FS Sram Apex shift levers, Ritchey Venturemax handlebars, Salsa Woodchipper bars, Ritchey stem & Jagwire

Some items for sale: Set of Sram Apex shift/brake levers "brifters" in great condition with small split at the underside of the hood. Nothing major as shown in photo. $100 plus shipping CONUS Ritchey Comp Venturemax handlebars 44cm with 31.8mm clamp. Mounted but never used (decided to go with

[RBW] Re: Breaking in a leather Brooks

Might want to use some sort of rain cover as well Also, the leather in B-17 standards with the small silver rivets does not seem to be as thick as say, Champion , Professional or Select saddles , so they will break in faster and be less durable. These are perfectly OK saddles. Eventually ,

Re: [RBW] Breaking in a leather Brooks

DO NOT USE A SOFTENING OIL like neatsfoot (baseball glove) or similar. The leather will stretch significantly, often past the point of recovery by the tension screw in the nose. The best treatment is a couple applications of Brooks' own Proofide, or my (and Riv's) favorite, Obenauf's LP

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Thanks for the great replies. To be clear, I changed the front setup to match the default Sugino w/ the guard that Riv sell. The big chain ring is 40T. I'm hearing to have my bike shop check chain tension and alignment but that I don't need a different der. Sound about right? -- You

[RBW] WTB - On-One Mary Bars

Looking to see if anyone has these bars in very good condition they would be willing to part with. Please DM with condition and price to include mailing to 19382 (SE PA). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Breaking in a leather Brooks

I have decided to take the plunge into the world of leather saddles with the purchase of a Brooks B17. I am in search of one now and decided to buy used. There is a variety of information regarding proper break in. I have read using mink oil, baseball glove oil and various other methods some of

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Is there a pic of the setup you are recommending? Not sure I'm getting exactly what you are describing. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: FS - 55cm Cheviot f/f/hs/bb, Sackville Saddlebag Med Olive, ILE Porteur Bag, Brooks Challenge Large Dark Tan

Cheviot sold. Sale pending on Brooks bag. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

I'm in the midst of a rebuild for my Atlantis as well. Some similar changes to yours: 1. Drops to Albatross bars (CrMo version). Cut 1.5" from the ends. Unless you're concerned about rust or weight I don't see an advantage to the aluminum bars. 2. Front der shifter is now on the down tube,

[RBW] Re: eCLEM

Dear Mike, Awesome use of an e-bike, Mike! Kudos! Welcome to the group and the rabbit hole! Grin. Having no idea on the differences between tubing and more I can't speak to the "sturdier" aspect, but the craftsmanship Grant and Co. put into their bikes is stunning. I have beaten the living

[RBW] Re: eCLEM

Hello People - First post, just discovered this group. I decided to reply to this older thread because I am also considering building an eClem. I've been commuting on this electrified pseudo-Riv for 2 years now: It's made by Brooklyn Bicycles, who were

[RBW] Re: Giving up on my Cambium C17

My experience? B17 was comfortable right out of the box. Brooks Pro does take a lot longer to break in as some others said. Cambium felt hard and inflexible, and that was disappointing because I really wanted to like it. I would still like to try a carved one though. Used B17s can be had for

[RBW] WTT my Brooks Cambium C15 Carved for your C17s

Hi folks (I also posted this to iBob) After a month of commuting, I've decided my Cambium C15 Carved (cutout) is not going to work form my butt. It as little-to-no signs of wear. Color: Slate grey. I love my B17, and would like to try the C17s for its shorter length. Would anyone here like

[RBW] Re: How does Compass tire compare with Pari Moto?

I'll add my voice to the chorus: I was hesitant about BSPs, since I ride on crappy Brooklyn streets, but I purchased them anyway. I've ridden nearly everyday for coming up on a year and I've had one flat from a large piece of glass in the rain. I love the way they look, feel, sound, taste,

[RBW] FS: soma portola, nitto stem, gran compe levers

i'd like to sell as a complete setup. soma portola 56cm dirt drops, nitto 80mm periscopa stem (nicer version of the nitto dirt drop stem) and dia compe gran compe 202 non-aero levers. wrapped in burgundy newbaums shelllac'd with amber bullseye shellac. everything is in excellent shape. $100+

[RBW] WTB: 60cm Cheviot or Betty Foy

Hey all, does anyone have a large Cheviot or Betty Foy they'd like to part with? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Roadini at RBW

The socketed seat tube lug can be standard across various frame sizes so long as the seat tube angle remains the same. Seat stay attachment is simplified. Seat post binder bolt is integrated so this eliminates a joint. Trek did something similar back in the late '80's. The reason for tig

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

MTB and Road front derailleurs have different cable pull standards. But, if you're using thumb shifters (or downtube shifters, or bar-ends), then the difference is just a matter of lever throw. Either FD can work fine with friction shifting. Chain suck is usually a problem with interference

[RBW] PSA: Great deal on Sugino Might Tour cranksets

$195 ! http://www.thegranarybicyclecompany.com/product/sugino-mighty-tour-crankset-double-with-sugino-bottom-bracket/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: Giving up on my Cambium C17

I tried the C17 standard and the carved, and I much prefer the carved (Imperial style). It definitely gives the Cambium more flex. I use it on a rigid fat bike, and it doesn't beat me up. I'll probably replace the B17 on my 'cross bike with one as well, once I break the B17. On Sat, Jun 17,

Re: [RBW] Re: BQ Icon: First Rivendell Lugs

Dave- Rivendells have always been 1 1/8" top and seat tubes. In the 1st-generation Rivendells (which this lugset was designed for), the smaller sizes had 1 1/8" down tubes, and the larger sizes had 1 1/4" down tubes. Waterford had a bunch of Reynolds 753 in those diameters in stock. Bikes with

[RBW] Re: FS: Saddlesack XS Olive

Sold On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 5:56:32 AM UTC-4, Marc Irwin wrote: > > Sale pending. > > > On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 4:22:02 PM UTC-4, Marc Irwin wrote: >> >> Saddlesack XS Olive in very good condition. $45 shipped USPS Priority >> CONUS >> Google Wallet works for me. >> >> >>

[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

Thumbshifters and bar end brake levers are my preference for swept back bars, hands down. What I find useless about regular mtb levers is you cannot use some of the most valuble hand space. Thumbshifters located just inside the top curve and bar end brake levers frees up all that space. I have

[RBW] Re: FS: Saddlesack XS Olive

Sale pending. On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 4:22:02 PM UTC-4, Marc Irwin wrote: > > Saddlesack XS Olive in very good condition. $45 shipped USPS Priority > CONUS > Google Wallet works for me. > > >