Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Two reasons I can think of: 1. Compliance over bumps because you're less "on top" of the rear wheel. 2. Rivs are designed at the bottom of a crazy fast/steep mountain; the long wheelbase may be more stable sailing down that road. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I’ve owned a Sam, Clem, 2 atlanti, hunq and a Rosco mixte. None have felt remotely unstable and the Clem doesn’t feel noticeably more stable than any of the other models. I truly don’t understand this push for the super long stays. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: SOMA Demi Porteur

I just ordered one today. Doh! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] WTB: Carradice Bagman Bicycle Support + Zefal HPX silver

Hi all: (apologies for cross-posting to iBoB and RBW) I'm ready-ing for L'Eroica California next month with my Quickbeam. Does someone have one or the other (or goldmine—both!) of these items below gathering dust in their garage? - Carradice Bagman

[RBW] WTB: Bullmoose bars

Much as I like my Albatross bars, I’m looking for something wider. Anyone looking to sell some bullmoose bars? Bonus points if you’re local. Thanks, Reid in Austin, TX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: SOMA Demi Porteur

Joe, I own both the rack and a Cheviot. I haven't tried mounting it, but I will and let you know. And if you haven't bought one yet I'll sell it to ya. Give me a day or so and I'll report back. Bought it for another project that didn't happen. Aaron -- You received this message because you

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

It does not make sense to keep doing the MUSA Atlantis, at least not under that name. Maybe they can create an All Rounder decal for it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

As a former Appaloosa owner, I'm a little disappointed to see the extra-long chainstays and 6° TT come to the Atlantis. Although the Joe is billed as an "all-arounder," IME that is quite a subjective term. I found climbing unwieldy without a sizable front load (especially on dirt), and with

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I think over the last few years and especially over the last year there has been a “the Taiwan bikes are just as good as the U.S. bikes” vibe from Grant/ Riv. The Taiwanese builder has come a long way from the pre-Rivendell days and the Bleriot don’t-look-too-closely-at-the-paint days. I love

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I too am curious about these seemingly super long stays. Can you ever pop even a small wheelie?? All fpr comfort and stability but that looks like an awfully long bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Billie Bar Width - New Albatross

I ride surly open bars which are 666mm wide. Love them. They don't sweep back as far though. Those bars look nice though I would be concerned with far they sweep back. I would need a long or a long too tube. Which cpuld be perfect for some riv models. Seems like top tubes are getting

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Ya, I think the appaloosas are great, but i don’t see how the two models would be distinguished enough to justify keeping both. Sky in new west > On Mar 20, 2018, at 7:40 PM, Jonathan D. wrote: > > I’ll be curious to see how an Appaloosa and Atlantis differ. The new

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I’ll be curious to see how an Appaloosa and Atlantis differ. The new Atlantis seems similar. I expect the Appaloosa will probably be canceled. Regardless of whether it’s a Joe or Atlantis, both are great bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I think making the Atlantis that long is a mistake. It’s an iconic bike, that already has objectively long stays, and there are other long models. I see no reason for this. Cheaper atlantis is great, but at what point is an Atlantis not an Atlantis. -- You received this message because you

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Where the similar bike/different price issue becomes sticky is New Atlantis vs. Appaloosa. We're talking $2-300 and a different fork crown. I don't see both frames coexisting for long. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

You could probably add/substract $800 from a dozen bike company's models to come up with the statement "it's this bike but a different name, a few different details and a different price." There's only so many ways to join tubes to two wheels. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: FS: 52cm Rivendell Clem Smith Jr L

Bump. Get your step-through new Atlantis here -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

So it's a Clem with a few more lugs atlantis paint and roughly 800$ more price tag? Not sure I see the appeal... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

The longest chainstays I have are about 45cm, in my 87 Trek Antelope, although the overall wheelbase is pretty long because of the 70 degree hta and 52mm fork rake. That bike is super stable. I bet 47-48cm would feel similar with 700c wheels. My 83 Trek 520 has 43cm chainstays and it’s a

[RBW] Re: Super long chainstays and putting your bike buses/trains

I sold my Clem because it didn't fit in my shed and it was not fun to lug around elevators or on a busy train. There are definite downsides to uber long wheelbase rides! On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 4:34:18 PM UTC-7, Eamon Nordquist wrote: > > I was just thinking about how Rivendell is moving

[RBW] Re: Super long chainstays and putting your bike buses/trains

Part of my daily commute in Portland (OR) is on a light rail train. I ride a 68cm Quickbeam and a 65cm Atlantis from 2017 that has the 48cm chainstays. The Quickbeam fits on the bike hooks with maybe an inch to spare, but the Atlantis is a no go. I definitely see it as a con of the longer

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

jeeez these chainstays https://78.media.tumblr.com/70eee77959f0dfa2cdd3d2cc9c9feb75/tumblr_p5wqvaobFh1qe3ngpo1_1280.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Billie Bar Width - New Albatross

News flash: The new Billie bars will be 58cm wide! I emailed Riv to ask and made sure it was okay to share with y'all. If you haven't heard of them yet, they are a longer sweep, less rise and wider albatross. I kind of think this is a picture of them that they quietly snuck on Instagram:

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Curious about the chainstays too. Those of you who have ridden long (50 cm +?) and short (45 cm, as on my road customs?), what does the added length do to handling? I have to say that by the standards of most bikes, even 45 is long, though am I right in thinking that this was "road normal" before

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I wonder why they decided to extend the chainstays - that Blug picture looks like it has Clem/Appaloosa length stays (maybe it's an illusion from 26" wheels?). Didn't the Atlantis already have 48cm chainstays? All the other changes seem like a good idea to me, but this just seems like turning

[RBW] Super long chainstays and putting your bike buses/trains

I was just thinking about how Rivendell is moving towards very long chainstays, and how that might impact people wanting to put their bike on the racks on city buses, or the hooks on light rail trains. I don't personally use either very often, but do occasionally need to do both options. I

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I'm pretty sure i could get 2.2's and fenders in my 650b atlantis without too much work. not sure about 2.35 though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I have to admit I'm now contemplating what I'd do if presented with a new 650B Atlantis shod with 2.35" Schwable semi-slicks otherwise built up like my Saluki with 42mm Compass BSP's... Which one would I prefer?!? The prospect of a more wallet friendly price and a 650B tire size in what I

[RBW] Re: Well, Here’s a Spot of Snow

I agree with Erl, that last photo should be your headbadge, or maybe a down tube decal... :) Keep sharing your rides and photos please! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

"If one was made by all three, could anyone tell a difference?" I seriously doubt it. Rivendell always uses first quality fabricators, and they are all the same design with minor tweaks. Rivendell sweats the details so any tweaks will be engineered by them. dougP On Monday, March 19, 2018

[RBW] FS Albatross Bar Heat-treated Alum

Aluminum is out of stock at Riv right now, so yes, $60 for a decent use one that's available right now is a good deal. Score! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] FS 58cm Boscomoose

Brand new 58cm boscomoose 130$ shipped. Bought for a project that isn't gonna happen. Paypal for pals or you cover fees...local cashola price is cheaper I'm in the 92313. preguntas... 909 910-7424 best, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] FS Jones Loop SG Handlebar

Mounted on the Nitto stem, then realized that it wasn't the version that had the 2.5" rise in it. Nothing else ever mounted on it. Silver 660 mm wide straight gauge version (narrow, slightly heavier). Basically brand new. Ordered the correct bar and selling this one. Asking $60 shipped CONUS -

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I own several mountain bikes and it really is my preferred riding discipline, but I would be hard pressed to spend money on an mtb that is still using cantis or v-brakes. Not that I couldn't be down with a nice rivendell mountain mixte, but the canti posts would not be in the "pro" column

[RBW] FS Albatross Bar Heat-treated Alum

Sold in ten minutes! Haha! Must have been a good deal:) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

That diagatube pic shows a bike that is not fully lugged. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr first ride.

Great looking machine. Color is very pretty in this setting. And I love the fork bend:-) Best, Richard On Monday, March 19, 2018 at 10:26:18 AM UTC-4, lconley wrote: > > Took my freshly completed Frank Jones Sr for its first ride on Saturday on > the Coast to Coat bike trail in Titusville.

[RBW] FS Albatross Bar Heat-treated Alum

Hey, Y'all! I got a basically brand-new set of Albatross bars in heat-treated aluminum for sale. They might have a few blemishes from normal mounting, but nothing beyond that. Here are some hilarious pictures from when I mounted them on my son's balance bike for a photo-op:

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa: My first Rivendell

Jonathan, Awesome! It's funny how one wants another Riv right after the first! I bought a Clem late 2016 and have been pining for a Sam Hillborne as well! Maybe in 5 years for me :) -Vincent On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 12:02:35 PM UTC-7, Jonathan wrote: > > Today marks 1000 miles on my

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

As the owner of a first generation Toyo built Atlantis I am torn. I know the original was made to be a less expensive All Rounder, so the new plan sticks to the original brief. But just as the All Rounder copy became the Atlantis, maybe the new version should have a different name. -- You

[RBW] Re: Delete post when something is sold

We haven't really had a strong policy. Don't really think we need one. I figure that if the OP of a For Sale item keeps getting pestered by private messages, it's up to them to remove or update the listing as they see fit. - Jim (admin-ing on a rainy Tuesday...) On Saturday, March 17, 2018

[RBW] Re: FS - Waterford AHH 59cm

Willing to sell Frame/Fork/Headset for $1500 shipped. On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 2:13:53 AM UTC-4, Dan Bracey wrote: > > Full image gallery here: https://imgur.com/a/axZDK > > I'm going to regret this, but for sale is a Waterford built 2006 A. Homer > Hilsen that I have owned it since 2010.

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Assuming this is the bike, you can see the cable guides in the photo Jonathan referenced above. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

The mule aberration was considered a threat to humanity in that it could delay/extend the dark age/period after the collapse of the empire by tracking down and eliminating the influence of the second foundation, which was helping the first foundation from the shadows. The mule was therefore

[RBW] Re: Cockpit Items - For Sale

Bar end shifter pods still available. As is the quill stem. On Monday, March 19, 2018 at 3:04:34 PM UTC-5, Mat Grewe wrote: > > For sale are some extra cockpit items that didn't end up working for me. > All the prices include shipping CONUS. If you want a couple items, let me > know and I

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

The Clem was hatched by the younger folks at Riv. It was originally going to be a better-than-a-beater beater with flat paint that could be easily touched up with a rattle can. Of course Grant couldn't bring himself to sell an ugly bicycle, but the design and price ethos was met. -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

... I mean think of this: There was a long period of time during which Rivendell was the ONLY bike company who offered road and touring- type bikes with rational tire clearance and a proper fit. The beautiful frame details and business ethic were simply icing on the cake. Nowadays, you

Re: [RBW] First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

Oh, I know Asimov saw at least some of the flaws in the laws. I bringing them up so would could too. Grin. In a fallen world, the answers can’t come from within the fallen world. The robot’s discovered their limits and had humility (whether they found the correct answer is another discussion).

Re: [RBW] First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

Except when it failed. IIRC, an aberration known as "the mule" appeared along the way in the trilogy and they (the robot (R.Daneel Olivaw) working through the humans (2nd Foundation) had to find a work-around to keep the future from slipping into a dark age. On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

> > > On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 8:18:42 AM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote: >> >> Maybe the next Rosco/Roadini project should be a Rosco-Hunq. >> >> >> Also, I kind of think that that's exactly what the Clem Smith Jr. project was: Just as the Rosco Bubbes' impetus grew out of a stockpile of

[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Racer Brakeset, Black, $250

No thank you, I am not interested in trades for these brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 8:18:42 AM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > With a Tiawan-built Atlantis 'a little bit more' than an Appaloosa is > there a compelling reason to hold on to the Appaloosa in Riv's line up? > ... That leaves the AHH, Roadeo, Hunq and MUSA Atlantis frames in the >

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

yeah this is pretty standard. drilled and tapped bb hole for the plastic guide. On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 8:45:50 AM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote: > > That's my understanding too, which is why it's such a curious decision. > Made sense for the limited-run FJS, but presumably this will remain a >

Re: [RBW] First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

Patrick, There was some of this exact thinking in some of Azimov's Foundation series. I don't recall if it was an Azimov book or another added to the series, though I suspect the later. On a galactic level, the robots were unable to determine what was best for humanity. So, they found a human

Re: [RBW] First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

Asimov’s laws are pretty, and a logical foundation from which to start, but are far from being the answer they appear. Take the first “law” of medicine, for example. Modern doctors deleted the notion of “first, do no harm” from the modern Hippocratic Oath (which isn’t required), and added some

Re: [RBW] First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

Good point Tim. If I knew an automated car was programmed to stop for a cyclist regardless of the overall traffic situation, it would be more tempting to seize the initiative to cross the intersection before it did. Not that I would, but anyway. On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Tim Butterfield

Re: [RBW] First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

It was stated in the media that neither the car or the human nanny attempted to slow or stop the vehicle. Not sure who the source of that info. On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 9:05 AM, Joe Bernard wrote: > We don't know that the driving attendant or the computer failed. I have >

Re: [RBW] First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

I expect that Arizona's and Tuscon's laws would only allow local police to cite the human operator with a traffic violation. If Uber has any liability in this instance, it must be established via a civil process. Police and prosecutors don't make that call. This is an area of law that will come

Re: [RBW] First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Joe Bernard wrote: > There it is. https://twitter.com/FortuneMagazine/status/ > 976099801669521409?s=19 Hmmm. It may not be in this case, but I have a sad premonition that people playing with/around self-driving cars may become an extreme

[RBW] Re: SOMA Demi Porteur

I don’t have the Demi but have the standard SOMA Porteur. Mounts on my Atlantis fine through the eyelets and also has option mid-fork eyelets that I use as well for extra stability. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: SOMA Demi Porteur

Ah, it doesn't need a braze-on. Thanks!  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: [RBW] First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

There it is. https://twitter.com/FortuneMagazine/status/976099801669521409?s=19 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Tony, Yeah, armchair product management is fun! From a marketing standpoint, I think the message of "last chance for 18 months" might spur more sales then "last chance until sometime next year" message. It depends if the goal is to broaden audience (new customers) or get existing customers

Re: [RBW] First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

Curtis, There is also the Zeroth law, which takes precedence over the other three. 0. A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm. Of course, these are built into the positronic brain, which does not yet exist. Tim On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 6:05 AM, Curtis

[RBW] Re: First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 5:34:28 AM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > Your daily car accident fatality figure is wildly incorrect. It would put > the yearly total at over 1.2 million fatalities, when the actual figure is > 40,000. Which of course is bad enough. > > Sorry, I cited world

[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

Entirely too late to make any real difference, but a couple ideas I had while reading this thread. First, a cam shape would help with lever throw issues. (Even though it would complicate the design/engineering exponentially & probably make it not cost effective) Second, maybe a segmented lever

Re: [RBW] What type of bike would make you buy another riv

I need to show this thread to my wife...she just doesn't understand why any person would need or want multiple bikes. But then she doesn't have any hobbies so how would she understand. I have two Sams( a single and double top tube ) and a Cheviot. If I was to get another Riv it would be a

[RBW] Re: Cockpit Items - For Sale

Sale pending on all items except quill stem. On Monday, March 19, 2018 at 3:04:34 PM UTC-5, Mat Grewe wrote: > > For sale are some extra cockpit items that didn't end up working for me. > All the prices include shipping CONUS. If you want a couple items, let me > know and I can adjust

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

I am certainly not in favor of change for the sake of it, but there comes a point where you simply have to face the weather, 1 1/8" steer tubes, disc brakes & index shifting are not newfangled fads, they are pretty much the standard now & have been for some time. Yeah, you can still get quill

[RBW] Re: SOMA Demi Porteur

Joe, Here's your light mount at the Riv store. https://www.rivbike.com/collections/lights/products/nitto-screw-mount-lamp-holder-6-right Jon On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 8:13:57 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: > Brad: Thanks for the confirmation of where SOMA mounts the braze-ons, > that's very

[RBW] Cockpit Items - For Sale

Mat answered, they're 55cm. I'm holding out for a 56, or maybe this new bar on the horizon -Kai BK NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Well, a recent post floated the question " what would it take to get you to buy another Riv" (or something like that) and, well, this might be IT! I kinda hope they do a new color!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

Basically, there is a whole lot we do not know, and we really would do better waiting for the results of the on-going crash investigation rather than speculating as we have done. On 03/20/2018 10:05 AM, Joe Bernard wrote: We don't know that the driving attendant or the computer failed. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

With a Tiawan-built Atlantis 'a little bit more' than an Appaloosa is there a compelling reason to hold on to the Appaloosa in Riv's line up? If they are trying to normalize their inventory for their own cash flow and to always have frames on hand for interested buyers I could see them go forward

[RBW] Re: SOMA Demi Porteur

Brad: Thanks for the confirmation of where SOMA mounts the braze-ons, that's very helpful. Unfortunately I'm just realizing there's no mounts on the rack for my dynohub light. Phooey! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

We don't know that the driving attendant or the computer failed. I have questions concerning how well the pedestrian stepping into the street outside a crosswalk late at night judged the distance of the oncoming vehicle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

Are autonomous cars built to obey Asimov's Three Laws?  I doubt it very much. On 03/20/2018 09:05 AM, Curtis McKenzie wrote: Hello Everyone, Just a quick note about the "self-driving" cars. Isaac Asimov's "Three Laws of Robotics" 1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

On 03/20/2018 09:04 AM, 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: Disc brakes, because I see rim brake rims and hubs being unavailable very soon I'm sure this is a gross exaggeration, and squarely falls under the term FUD - /Fear,

[RBW] Re: What happened to bullmoose bars?

Welded or braised?.. (If the latter, I am getting in line :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

The driving attendant had the accident. Violated the trust of oversight which was the promise predicating this experiment's permission to use public roads as its laboratory. I'm (was) coming to grips with AI Ubers and have felt safer around them than transit busses whose operators continue to

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

Maybe "tunnels" like Ritchey and Potts used? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] "RBW Blue"

Greetings, Has anyone found a suitable match for the home touch up types amongst us with a frame in this color? JS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

Hello Everyone, Just a quick note about the "self-driving" cars. Isaac Asimov's "Three Laws of Robotics" 1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. 2. A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders

[RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

> A Disc braked, 2.5" tire clearance, moderate bottom bracket height, fully > lugged, short top tube and with bikepacking fork mounts, for better > singletrack capability than my Atlantis. I have a hunch though, that ANY > bike compared to my Atlantis would be a disappointment. My Atlantis

[RBW] Re: What happened to bullmoose bars?

Mike, Check back today with Will or Corey. I just returned what I believe was the last pair when my build-plans changed and I no longer needed them. They are unused. Good luck. Al On Monday, March 19, 2018 at 9:34:39 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > The last original Bullmoose - the flattish

Re: [RBW] First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

I would trust Google with this technology more than Uber. Uber has shown quite frequently that they push the envelope on what is legal and what is moral. Google's stated philosophy is "first, do no harm". Pretty big difference there. I don't know if perception is reality, but it seems to me

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

That's my understanding too, which is why it's such a curious decision. Made sense for the limited-run FJS, but presumably this will remain a permanent model. 6 degree top tube indicates fewer configurations / sizes likely. Another thing about the FJS is that it didn't require cable routing

[RBW] Re: First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

Your daily car accident fatality figure is wildly incorrect. It would put the yearly total at over 1.2 million fatalities, when the actual figure is 40,000. Which of course is bad enough. Autonomous cars don't look at phones because that would be redundant. On Monday, March 19, 2018 at

[RBW] Re: SOMA Demi Porteur

I haven't tried the Demi Porteur rack and a quick google image search doesn't show any images of it in the wild. But the web store text describes it as a "rack that installs on your fork's mini rack mounts." Soma uses the Riv standard for their rack mounts. I could move the Nitto 32F back and

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

I don't think it's cheaper than lugged but if allows more variance in the sta/hta/bb angles than lugged -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] First pedestrian killed by autonomous car

Uber has been picking people up at the Pittsburgh airport using autonomous vehicles for over a year. They've managed the sometimes bumper-to-bumper, sometimes 70mph Parkway West to the city with no incidents and have delivered folks to the city accident-free. Try driving in a city laid out

[RBW] SOMA Demi Porteur

Has anyone used this on a Riv? I'm thinking about putting one on my Cheviot for light loads in my new Clembasack (bungee net, no basket), but I don't know if it's sized for Riv-type mid-fork eyelets or the old standard for pannier racks.

[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

You can generally deduce a Japan/USA Riv from Taiwan by the fancier lugs, but no, there's no way I would know the difference based on construction, weight or ride. It's apparent that the crew in Taiwan are fantastic builders, and the paint is great, too. -- You received this message because