I have the SA on almost all of my bikes now, i like it so much. A couple of
notes that have worked for me:
- I dont tension often at all in the beginning. As others have suggested,
that just lessens the life span. After it sags and forms to me, i'll tighten to
feel (not to a measurement)
Part of the problem is the first edition Clems used those weird ratchety
shifters that weren't really friction, weren't really Power Ratchets. Mostly
they just sucked. Also, in my 56-years-old case, I just can't hear bad shifting
like I used to. Friction is more work than when I was a youngster
I got a 59cm clem frame as soon as it was released and have had a similar
love/frustration experience as yours ever since. One one hand, it's the bike
that seems most appropriate most of the time and is what i most want to ride.
But there have been a few nagging setup issues. After changing
My partner and I did this for a while with a 60cm Cheviot. She's 5' 6" and
I'm 6' 4". It worked but it wasn't really ideal, too much compromise in fit
and even though it only took a few minutes to adjust the bars and saddle I
just got tired of having to futz with the bike all the time. If you
Not that familiar with the Clem, but I was able to fit fine on my wife's
Betty Foy, I have a PBH of 91 hers is much less closer to 74 as I recall.
The bike was sized by Kevin for her dimensions only. I just use a 410mm
seat post and my own B17 to ride it.
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at
Sean, check the "WTB 52 Clem L" thread, somebody mentioned having a first
edition blue one. I've seen that color live in person and it looks great.
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IME Friction works great withSilver Shifters, Microshift R10/Deore/SunXCD rear
derailers with 7-speed cassette and 4.5mm spacer or 8 speed cassette, both on
Shimano type 8/9/10 freehub body.
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I should have mentioned that, friction shifting seemed perfectly fine back
in the day with my childhood 10 and 12 speeds in the 70s and 80s, but now
it seems out of sync. I don't know if it's the additional 2 gears in the
back or I'm just spoiled by years of indexed shifting.
But anyway.
On
Thanks. I have some Obenaufs.
Nose is 1/8” up.
Felt good today. Letting it stretch more before tightening again. Too hard
under sit bones when tighten to the recommended 6mm. So I’m letting it stretch
and enjoying the lower tension.
I have found that the saddle is so comfortable, besides the sit
I also swapped out the Bosco bar for a Jones 2.5 riser loop and much prefer the
angle and width of the Jones. My 65cm Clem H came stock with 55cm cromo Bosco
and Tallux stem. I think I’d have been happier with the 58cm Boscomoose, but
traded for a Jones before purchasing a new Boscomoose and
I have 3 on bikes and love them. I use Obenaufs to moisturize without making
too soft. And in small amounts. Comfy from day 1. I like a slight hammock in
mine and generally level heel/nose set up. My oldest has 7,000 miles (I weigh
around 150 and Riv only sold the heavy duty model so that's
And I’ll take option A if still available!
Darin
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Sadly these are no longer in production...and I have always had an
irrational thirst for their super loud pawls.
Wishing on a star someone has one on the shelf collecting dust. The high
flange model is currently a two month lead time.
Thanks!
Alex Wirth
Rochester, NY
***If you have one
Can I have B please? Shipping to 17363
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For Free to a good home for the cost of actual postage. For my sanity, please
choose: A) all of the Riv catalogs or B) all of the BQ mags or C) All of it
Riv catalogs:Spring 02Fall/Winter 02Spring/Summer 03Summer/Fall 03Spring/Summer
04Winter 04/05Fall/Winter 052006 #12006 #22007 #19
Bicycle
I would think Choco or Albatross bars would work great on a Clem. Perhaps
the combination of how high and far back the Boscos come could be why
you're feeling they aren't wide enough? I would think a bar that got a
little closer to the stem would feel better.
Eamon
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Kevin-
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I had a Clem with the stock build, and like you, I found the Boscos weren't
for me. Lots of real estate, none of it valuable. I much prefer my Jones
Loop on my Clem. You'll have to get a 31.8mm stem, though. It's worth the
minimal hassle.
I wasn't big on the soft index/friction shifting, either.
How do you mount the Jandd extreme front onto the fork? My fork only has
the higher riv-type bosses and not lowrider bosses. Can I still mount the
extreme front rack with only the higher riv bosses?
On Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 10:29:02 AM UTC-7, nash...@gmail.com wrote:
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> I have mine on a
Threaded or threadless? I've got a couple threaded.
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 10:55:19 AM UTC-5, Justin, Oakland wrote:
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> Hey folks-
> For half a minute Riv sold some 90 degree Nitto stems. Is anyone holding
> one they’d like to get rid of? I have cash and goods.
>
> Or conversely
Have you considered a Jones H-Bar or the upcoming RBW Wavie bar? I
recently bought the Jones 2.5 (inches of rise) loop bar and I'm very
impressed with it. It offers many hand positions and it makes the steering
much more confidence inspiring. Judging from the recent RBW catalog, the
Wavie
I'm currently riding Billies on my Clem. I've run them on two, actually, I
recently just swapped down to a 45cm Clem after admitting to myself the
52cm was too big, and I've tried the Billies on both. I like them best
flipped upside down, but my wrists are still pretty fussy after a couple
I'd love to join you but have been hobbled all summer with a foot injury.
I see a surgeon next week and fear bad news.
Michael
On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 2:44:54 PM UTC-4, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow
Haus Bicycles wrote:
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> Hello Northeast Rivs!
>
> There's been hints at getting something
I have some SunRace 8sp indexed thumbies just sitting around, err...
shiftless. Drop me a PM if you are interested.
>
>
Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA
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The good news about my Clem is that I've been riding it a lot more since I
moved. I now live on a busy 4 lane highway with no shoulders, so I was
having to either brave the traffic to get to a side street or trail, or put
the bike on the car, which I hate to do if I'm just going out for a fun
I'd love to go but I'm way down here in NYC. Hope it's a blast!
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If you want the lowest seat possible, use a straight seatpost with a
standard separate seatpost clamp. Rotate the rail clamps 180 degrees from
where most people have them so that they are below the clamp through bolt
instead of above it. You can put the seat about an inch lower with this
Good point, Sean, that is indeed a B17..I don't use any other saddles so I
forgot about the height they carry. I just matched up a beater Cambium I have
and you're right about the difference, this just might work! You might as well
snag a 52 L and try it, the worst that can happen is you'll
That's a good tip -- I didn't realize what the Dynamic ll (2) was.
SimWorks has a Nitto in silver or black. It's 25.4 (it's a beauty, too)
https://sim.works/collections/stems-simworks-by-nitto/products/gettin-hungry-stem-lettuce?variant=16532774595
Velo Orange has one with a 31.8 clamp and
I don't see why this doesn't have a good chance of working. I'm 5' 10" and a52
was fine. I can't do pics at lunch but I am pretty sure there was room to drop
the saddle enough for a 5' 2" rider. The bike was designed around Boscos so I
don't see reach being a problem if you go with those.
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I'm going to be posting my 65 Clem-H as soon as I can get a few minutes to
prep it and take some pics. It's pretty much a stock build...for a Joe
Appaloosa. (Yes, a Joe. Here's how this came to be: I bought a new
complete build Joe Appa, found it too small for me, so transferred
Wow great build and lovey frame!
On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 9:25:42 AM UTC-4, Marty Gierke,
Stewartstown PA wrote:
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> Short ride on a foggy Sunday morning to shake things down and make minor
>> adjustments. Swapped everything over from the Atlantis in no time at all,
>> although I did
If it were me, I'd build up an early 90s mountain bike with bosco's and
flat pedals and easy gearing and a basket, buy the 59 clem (that fits you
best), and call it a day. even though the clem L is cheaper than your
custom rando, it's still a nice, expensive bike that there's no reason to
So far we have John, Marc, me David and a maybe from Joel.
I have a few other Riv people invites out there that aren't in the forum...
Anybody else?
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Just reserved my cabin for the 6th & 7thbunch of cabins left but
probably shouldn't wait too too long...
Excited!
On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 2:44:54 PM UTC-4, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow
Haus Bicycles wrote:
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> Hello Northeast Rivs!
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> There's been hints at getting something going
Justin, if you cruise the bay looking for Nitto Dynamic II or 2 you'll find 90
degree stems. Limited choice and standard (short) quills, e.g.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nitto-Dynamic-2-Stem-22-2X120Mm-90-D-25-4Mm-Bar-/192451916066
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Joe, that's a really helpful pic, thanks! I see why you have reservations
about the 52 working for my wife. In the end, I totally get the advice, and
appreciate it. Any incarnation of a 52 Clem for my wife would be pushing
it, and I know the mantra, the best bike is the one that fits.
With
Yeah, there's something off about Cam's numbers. My PBH is close to his wife's
and this is what my 52 H looked like, saddle at 69-70cm. These pics also show
why I think the bike is too tall for *your* wife, especially if you get a
complete with the stock 173mm cranks.
Cam, I'm kinda shocked that you have to slam the seatpost on the Clem for
your wife with an 81cm PBH when Riv states that folks with PBH starting at
74 can ride the Clem, that's a 7cm difference. Do you have a super tall
sprung saddle on?? The seat tube is 52cm C-T, right?
On Wednesday,
Hey folks-
For half a minute Riv sold some 90 degree Nitto stems. Is anyone holding one
they’d like to get rid of? I have cash and goods.
Or conversely does anyone know of a place to buy a right angle Nitto stem?
-J
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For a data point, my wife was able to ride my Schwinn High Sierra without
any complaints. It measures at 20" (~50.8cm) C-T seattube TT is 56.5cm, and
at the time was outfitted with a 120mm Deluxe steam and Albatross bars. So,
my thinking was, add 1 cm to the seat tube, I'll check and see how
my wife and i currently “share” a 52c clem. it’s my bike, but when we ride
together with our two kids i’m usually the one pulling the kids (xtracycle
edgerunner, and it’s awesome), and she rides my bike because she prefers it to
her own. works well, honestly, we just move the seat up and down a
On both my SA saddles break in time was nil. Perfect out of the box. I
would not recommend conditioning the leather too much as they are known for
stretching rather fast. Tighten/loosen the bolt as needed, I usually just
have about a finger tip width between under the saddle and the seatpost
Eric,
That sounds perfect! Looking forward to pictures of the build and, yes,
ride reports! Building up a bike, then riding, tweaking, adding and
subtracting, making it your own, can be such a great thing. Congrats again
on the new Rivendell!
Bob
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at
I have to say, this is an experiment I'd like to see happen. Not sure why
everyone is nay-saying it. The Riv geometry charts have both of your PBH within
that range, and I always think Grant is conservative in making those.
If you can get to a 52 Clem, why not test it out?
And everyone saying
Hi Bob,
For today's Sam I would definitely want the 58cm. I took my sizing for
this bike from the Rivendell Reader #41, which introduced the Sam, with the
60cm being for PBH 87-94. Mine is that original green color, but with a
pewter colored head badge rather than gold, so I think it's from
Unless you know a trick I don't, those tires will never squeeze into a
small flat rate box. *Maybe* a medium...
For shipping add $7.20(cost of a small flat rate box).
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I can't speak to the saddle bag issue but be aware the design of the Sam
seems to have changed over the years. I think the earlier versions
possibly had a bias for swept back handlebars as well as maybe some other
changes (versus the current Sam). I could be wrong on that though.
Comparing
Thanks for the extra feedback :-)
I'm still waiting on some parts I've bought, but man, this bike is huge!
It feels similar in size to the 25" mid-80's Cannondale touring bike I used
to have, which I loved but always felt a little big. (My PBH is 89.5, so
this is sized right according to
I can't effectively ride any of my wife's bikes and she really can't ride
mine and our height discrepancies are less than yours.
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 9:49:23 PM UTC-5, Sean Steinle wrote:
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> So, I've never really looked at the Clem L until today, especially not at
> the geometry
Alas, seems like this wouldn't work out. Riv technically starts at the 52
at a PBH of 74, so I thought with my wife only being 5mm off, perhaps she
could squeeze it. I did think about cockpit swap where I would use ergons
and thumb shifters so I could switch over without recabling, so you and I
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