[RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

I think what you get with a Roadeo in the 55-under sizes is basically a production version of Mark Abele's custom road bikes. He's a light, fast guy and it's but to work for him. I want one! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

True, but tires and wheel size/makes made no diff, in my experience between the bike models. (GB30,42/Compass28,32, 38, 42/Pasela/Swifty/Rumpkin/Marathons). Whole spectrum tried. Alleged fastest and alleged slowest tires made. 650b/700c. Twin Holla’/GB/Pacenti/Synergy/A23/CR18/,

[RBW] Re: Billie Bar vs. Jones Loop H-Bar

If considering any Jones bar (31.8 clamp dia), you may also consider the Nitto UI-12 quill stem on ebay . That bar (and the Billie, for that matter) allow for

[RBW] Re: Problem with Roadinis?

Alan, I'm glad you've decided to wait, though I understand your frustration. The Roadini is such a nice bike, and worth the wait. No one here (who has actually ridden one) will tell you otherwise! If it makes you feel any better, I ordered mine in April and didn't get it until August. What

[RBW] Re: Problem with Roadinis?

It's worth the wait, Alan. Orange Roadinis RULE! https://photos.app.goo.gl/m5CBYUsrzVVfGrYWA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: FS: 52-cm Clem-L

Okay Folks, after 10 days and a decent amount of interest I still haven't found a buyer for the 52 Clem-L so I'll drop the price to $800. Again, complete build minus a saddle. Hit me up with a PM if you're interested. On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 at 8:30:49 PM UTC-7, Alan H wrote: > >

[RBW] Re: Problem with Roadinis?

> > I talked to Vince at Riv again today. So apparently the issue is that the > bike was designed with the bridge as far away as possible to max out the 57 > mm brakes. Unfortunately the bridge was made with the bridge 1 mm too far > out so that the pads won't quite clear the tire without

[RBW] FS: TA Carmina Crankset Triple

(Reposted with the correct name for the crankset) Offered here before I send it to eBay: TA Specialites Carmina triple crankset. For 9/10 speed systems. 48/36/28 rings. 167.5mm arms. Fits square tapered bottom bracket. Rare and pretty and French. Very little use—rings are like new. With

Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

“You must be a strong rider to be able to ride down the road without loads effecting you.” Lum, I don’t really think so but I’ve never raced and almost always ride alone except when touring and so don’t really have a lot of comparison points. Sometimes others pass me and sometimes I pass

[RBW] Re: 56 & 58 Hunq standover with max tire?

Thanks for your thoughts / notes, Tom. My PBH is ~89.5 cm, and I’m used to riding a 57-59 cm (c-c) traditional road bike with ~7-8 cm bb drop, or even an all-rounder with 33 mm tires. Road fit I’ve now figured out — racing and sport and leisure. Now I am riding about 90% dirt / gravel /

Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

Bill, You must be a strong rider to be able to ride down the road without loads effecting you. I am a weak rider so maybe that’s why I feel a difference.? I don’t know. When I got the Roadeo I was expecting a slight difference but had no idea it was going to be so vastly different. Maybe

[RBW] Re: FS: TA Zephyr Crankset Triple

Sorry all ... guess it’s a Carmina. The rings say “Zephyr” on them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

Keep in mind that these tubes are OS, so the 8/5/8 will flex similarly to a 9/6/9, and the 6/4.5 would translate roughly to a 7/5/7 in terms of measurable flexing properties. It of course matters more when you are comparing Rivs to vintage standard tubing steels like 531, Columbus SL, Ishiwata

Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

Thinking more clearly, one of the bikes that just "felt" right from the beginning was a porky Herse -- earlier owners had dumped it because of its (for them) excessively stout tubing. Despite the weight penalty, it was one of those bikes that seemed to require a cog 1 tooth smaller. Too bad that

[RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

Max The washed out photo of the Ram makes it look like a toy, to go on a birthday cake. MIke On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 9:00:53 AM UTC-8, reynoldslugs wrote: > > I have both bikes, and have put them both through thousands of miles and a >> variety of equipment iterations. Not much

[RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

Lum, It would seem the case is closed! Not that it wasn’t for you already. Now, should I be happy with my ignorant bliss or try to convince my wife I need to keep searching? I hope that isn’t sounding sarcastic because, if so, it is not intended. It may just be that I’m not capable of

[RBW] Re: FS: TA Zephyr Crankset Triple

Yep. Zephyrs were a fixed spider/BCD. Them there's a Carmina. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Saturday, September 22, 2018 at 4:52:14 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Carmina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] FS: Sackville Grabsack

Anyone want to buy a Brown Sackville Grabsack from me for $60 shipped, I used it once and its really nice but I realized it's too similar to my Shopsack for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] FS: TA Zephyr Crankset Triple

Carmina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

Patrick, Admittedly, my experience with different bikes is limited compared to many but, between the two bikes I ride regularly, there is probably a 10 lb or so difference and they both go just fine. The lighter one is set up with granny half step gearing and so is easier to get just the

[RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

The Ram and Rodeo have the same exact cassette model and toothcounts. Ram has 40T XD2big ring. Roadeo 43 XD2 big ring. I only use big rings on both. No front derailers on the bikes. I am consistantly in higher cassette gears on Roadeo on same routes, even though it has a bigger T count big ring.

[RBW] Re: 56 & 58 Hunq standover with max tire?

Max, good question, and the one I'm pondering too. I would assert that the Riv fit method favors road riding, Or at least not majority singletrack riding. This is based on owning (or having previously owned) a 61 Roadini, 59 Clem H, 62 SimpleOne, 64 Atlantis, and 58 Sam. Plus MTBs from other

[RBW] FS: TA Zephyr Crankset Triple

Offered here before I send it to eBay: TA Specialites Zephyr triple crankset. For 9/10 speed systems. 48/36/28 rings. 167.5mm arms. Fits square tapered bottom bracket. Rare and pretty and French. Very little use—rings are like new.With integral crank bolts. $350 shipped in the CONUS. I love

[RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

Bill, test ride a carbon racer with all the gears you could possibly want, a Wally World bike-shapped-object with all the gears you could possibly want, and a Quickbeam with a gear you’d want (plus LCG, of course), and tell me if you agree with yourself. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You

[RBW] Re: 56 & 58 Hunq standover with max tire?

Haven’t done MTB in forever... what’s the current thinking on standover vs. PBH?.. And is the Hunq now officially fossilized by Riv? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

In other words . *shiitake happens ! *Life rolls on and rolls on Well ! In regards to such rims , I suspect any bike shop that has a supplier catalog either in paper or web could look up such a re-quest for specific width 27.5 rims, but it would help if you had certain specific

Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

Lighten up Igor . I get it ... you asked for 27.5 rims and I gave you a link for 700c/26 , and now you are asking did anyone read your quest-I-on . I know "people just don't listen ... people can't read . people are so blah blah blah infinitum ". "I'm so offended " and a

Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

"Did anyone read anything I wrote?" Yes. Garth linked those rims at Luna Cycle, the ebike people. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

You appeared to be getting at something, either to make a point or to accomplish something else. If you just want direct answers to your direct questions, fine. Igor asked: "Have you seen these for sale anywhere by themselves?" Answer: "No" Igor asked: "Did anyone read anything I wrote?"

Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

Did anyone read anything I wrote? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: 56 & 58 Hunq standover with max tire?

TC- When I had the 56 650b Hunqapillar I ran Velocity Cliffhanger rims and Schwalbe Super Moto-X 2.4 inch tires...standover measured 84.4 above the bottom/lower bottle cage braze-on of the down tube. (measured by Roman because I inquired before they shipped it to me) Stephen -- You received

Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

Igor indicates that he’s curious to find replacement rims for his Clem Smith Jr. How many replacement rims do you want to buy for your Clem? What spoke hole count? Do you prefer silver or black? Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

What about gearing? Are they identically geared? To me, the gearing is what makes a bike feel sluggish or not. If I’ve got the right gears for how I feel, the terrain, the weather, the load all feels good. The same bike can feel great one day and not the next depending on conditions. All

[RBW] Re: 56 & 58 Hunq standover with max tire?

Thanks guys! Any other 56 or 58 hunq owners care to share their standovers (and what rims & tires you're using)? On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 6:33:18 PM UTC-4, tc wrote: > > I'm having a hard time finding standover heights for the 56 Hunq (which I > believe was only offered in 650b) with

[RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

53 Bleriot 55 Bleriot 52 blue Sam 54 Ram 53 Roadeo I used 6cm stems on all but 55 Bleriot, which used 7cm stem. Coulda used a 6. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] For Sale Nitto medium Rack

Cross posted from ibob list, apologies for redundancy This rack fits 26” and likely most 650b sizes. Measures 13 1/8” from mounting hole to bottom of platform Condition is excellent Email for pictures, files are too large to post here rayvarella007 at gmail dot com $120 plus shipping

[RBW] Re: Problem with Roadinis?

He could always snap up the blue 50 on the Garage Sale page. I prefer the orange, too, but that's a really nice bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

Via the g00gle search for " Alex DM24 rim 700c " :) https://lunacycle.com/alex-ebike-rim-dm24/ On Saturday, September 22, 2018 at 4:22:19 PM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote: > > Well for one, the question posed earlier was where does one find wide, > rim-braked rims. > > > -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

This is a great comparison. Thank you. I am curious are the bikes sized the same way? I only ask because I find a smaller fitting bike can feel faster to me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

Well for one, the question posed earlier was where does one find wide, rim-braked rims. Also simply curious because when I had the Clem that came with these stock, I too wondered where replacements could be had. On Saturday, September 22, 2018 at 4:18:55 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Igor

Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

Igor I'm curious why you are asking. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Saturday, September 22, 2018 at 1:14:44 PM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote: > > Have you seen these for sale anywhere by themselves? Alex's website does > not list the 27.5" size > > http://www.alexrims.com/products/dm24-2/ > > On

Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

Have you seen these for sale anywhere by themselves? Alex's website does not list the 27.5" size http://www.alexrims.com/products/dm24-2/ On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 2:23:48 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > The widest 650B rim brake rim I've ever seen is the DM24 on my HubbuHubbuH >

[RBW] Re: Problem with Roadinis?

They have a list of Rivdealers on their website. You could call around and see if anyone has a proper brake bridged Roadini. But I would wait, too. Worth it. If you get the Soma, you might one day think that you should have got the Roadini instead. The Roadini is made with very thought out

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

What kinda wheels you have on it? The Ram rode the same for me at any weight. Not as good on hills as Roadeo, but good enough and a fantastic, comfy ride. It also has a little more room for fenders and 32mm tires than Roadeo. I love the blue paint, too. If I ever have to repaint the Roadeo I

[RBW] Problem with Roadinis?

Hey Alan. Expectations can be premeditated disapointments, aye? Grin. Perhaps it’s time to try reframing expectations and see if that helps clarify things in your mind? Getting the right bike matters, and Rivendell is very good at doing that, even though it can take time. If you’re in a rush,

Re: [RBW] Problem with Roadinis?

Personally, I would wait. A couple months go by quickly but a compromise you make to get a different frame will be with you for a long time. If you have something else to ride in the short term it will be worth the wait. When something is slightly out of spec, it’s likely much worse on the

Re: [RBW] Problem with Roadinis?

Getting a Riv is not the same as getting a SOMA. Getting a SOMA is not the same as an all City. Etc etc. If you want a Roadini either ask for the current bike with extra clearance or wait. If you want a chubby tired road bike then All City, SOMA, Black Mountain Cycles (what I would pick) or

Re: [RBW] Problem with Roadinis?

Personally I'd wait for a corrected orange Roadini, Riv probably won't sell him a "bad" one anyway. The whatever-model-it-is Shimano mid-reach brakes on mine stop notably better than the long-reach Tektros I had on my Cheviot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

Aha. That may explain the difference in your experience. I'm almost 30 lb heavier, and I'm pretty sure that the tubing on my customs is not as thinwall (Chauncey Matthews came by to pick up the '99 Joe Starck frame -- f/f/hs -- for alteration. He lifted it and said, "Huh. Not so light.") But damn,

Re: [RBW] Problem with Roadinis?

Or some nice, high-end centerpulls -- an upgrade, not a make-do, right? On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 10:43 AM, James Warren wrote: > > Are you considering getting the Roadini now anyway and using one of the > longer pull brakes? That’s what I would do, because I use those brakes on > another bike,

Re: [RBW] Problem with Roadinis?

Are you considering getting the Roadini now anyway and using one of the longer pull brakes? That’s what I would do, because I use those brakes on another bike, and I think they’re good. And I’d enjoy the extra clearance. Good luck, Jim > On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:28 AM, Alan H wrote: > > Hi

Re: [RBW] Problem with Roadinis?

Sorry about your disappointment too. When I ordered my second custom, it arrived with the brake caliper mounting hole just a few mm too high in the fork crown, and I had to either file the (57 mm max reach) brake pad slots or -- this is what I did in the event -- use a drop bolt. I complained to

[RBW] Problem with Roadinis?

My 54 is fine, but I may have gotten lucky. I haven't seen any other orange Roadinis on this forum yet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Zip ties (WAS Re: [RBW] Re: Wald Basket??)

Haha! Bill, that’s a killer hack and I’m gonna try it! Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Problem with Roadinis?

I am waiting an indeterminate time for my next bike that’s on order, so my advice is that you be patient and wait until the right Leo comes in. This is easy advice for me to follow myself because I have a lot of bikes. If you have zero bikes today and need one, then it seems to make sense to

[RBW] Problem with Roadinis?

Personally, I would consider the extra clearance a plus. That's commonly a spot where fender clearance is reduced by brake interference. I understand not wanting that if you don't plan on ever fendering the bike, or don't want to maximize tire size, but I'd personally only consider it a problem

[RBW] Problem with Roadinis?

Sorry to hear that, and I understand your frustration. I’m sure the folks at Rivendell are incredibly frustrated, too. I had a Soma Smoothie, and it rode like a dead dog. My Waterford Atlantis was much better. If you can’t wait, you might want to consider a Black Mtn Road. I have one, and

Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

Bob, You have that right! Best, Rich in ATL On Saturday, September 22, 2018 at 9:33:12 AM UTC-4, Bob B wrote: > > Reading the comments on that pinkbike link SERIOUSLY reaffirmed my > appreciation for having this forum and community to talk about bikes. > > Bob B. > Brooklyn, NY > -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 7:39 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > As I understand it the Roadeo has significantly thinner tubing than the > Romulus and Ram I owned. Noticeable enough that my one very short ride > around the building at RBW told me I was riding a different, whippier, > snappier bike than what

[RBW] Problem with Roadinis?

Hi All, Looking for some feedback from folks here about the orange Roadinis. Last week I placed an order for one of the new orange Roadinis in a size 50 (thanks to my darned 80 cm pbh). After a week without any news from Riv (and having my cc charged), I called to find out when the bike would

[RBW] Re: Northeast Riv Unmeeting 2018, Interest/Headcount, Columbus Day Weekend

It's officialthere's gonna be a patch. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: Zip ties (WAS Re: [RBW] Re: Wald Basket??)

On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 6:08 AM Bill Lindsay wrote: > > In the argument above I bet money that my zip ties would be intact for a > long time. They are still rock solid for what it’s worth. I also zip tie basket to my racks. Sadly haven’t found them to work in perpetuity, it does eventually

Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

Reading the comments on that pinkbike link SERIOUSLY reaffirmed my appreciation for having this forum and community to talk about bikes. Bob B. Brooklyn, NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

I guess the thinner wall tubing (6/4/6 DT/TT) , shorter chainstays, and hand trimmed HT lugs? The early ones had the trimmed HT lugs, iirc. You can see the points cut off. Not that that would really make any difference, I don't think. >From a Grant interview we know that the Roadeo tubing is:

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Soma San Marcos - Size 54

Yeah I ride a 56 and the San Marcos 54 fit me great On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 11:08 PM, Patrick Shea wrote: > I checked the specs and it’s at least an inch too big for me. And I ride > 54s. Odd. Sorry. > > Patrick > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 3:50 PM RDS wrote: > >> $400 + Shipping to continental

[RBW] Re: FS: Soma San Marcos - Size 54

The frame is located in Georgia. On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 7:52:56 PM UTC-4, RDS wrote: > > Soma San Marcos size 54 - Frame, Fork, Headset (FSA). I am the 2nd owner > (I think) and the first owner did not ride the bike. I probably rode it > less than 20 miles. Frame is in good shape.

Re: Zip ties (WAS Re: [RBW] Re: Wald Basket??)

Trying to paste a link in iPhone. We’ll see if this works https://flic.kr/p/qXXDbM PM me if you like Bill Lindsay El Cerrito Ca In the argument above I bet money that my zip ties would be intact for a long time. They are still rock solid for what it’s worth. -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

Ooh, ooh, I got one too! :) Found it on local CL, looking for an Atlantis at the time but this came up for a steal of a price, so who could resist? White with blue accents It too has downtube cable stops rather than shifter bosses. I would prefer shifter bosses, but for a bike in my size and

[RBW] Re: WTT My 64 cm Atlantis for Your 61 cm Atlantis, or FS 64 cm Atlantis

Howdy I know youz guys are chomping at the bit, the Atlantis has found a new home. It returns to its home region from Bend Oregon, by way of San Luis Obispo. Thank you for your questions and interest. Mike SLO CA On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 8:51:41 PM UTC-7, Mike Godwin wrote: > >