Yeah, I bought the hype for B67/8 being better for upright, too. Not for me,
that wide "shelf" you sit on the edge of drove me crazy. All my bikes have
upright positions - I ain't no racer boy! - and they all have B17.
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What's most comfortable would vary based on your shape, size, weight etc.
That aside, in general, tuning your setup will get your B17 to 95% comfort
level of that ideal saddle, whichever it is going to be. The process of
finding out which would be an expensive one :)
I started with B-17.
Thank you all for your varied and well stated thoughts.
I've never gotten into a fight in my life, including grade school. I've
always been good a diffusing a bad situation. (My father was an alcoholic
and a bully, so it was a skill I learned early on.) But for some reason,
these three
Curious where you live that requires you to carry while on a bicycle? Are
you in the US or elsewhere?
(FYI, lest ye be smellin' a troll, I own multiple registered firearms.)
Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA
On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 7:01:06 PM UTC-7, MCT wrote:
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> I helped blew up iBob
Hi Sean.
I took off my selle anatomica non slotted saddle to try one of their
slotted ones (that I recently got from another poster because I was curious
about slotted saddles). So, the non slotted one is just sitting in a box.
If you would like to borrow it to check it out for the longer
I helped blew up iBob with mentioning I carry a firearm in my front bag. I am
passive and have it in case I need it. No one knows I have it and don’t tell
anyone I am riding with. It is the last resort. Don’t worry. I am properly
trained and know when I am doing.
The police are minutes
I ride a B17 on my Cheviot with Boscos - so very upright. I switched from
C19, which is theoretically wider, and find the B17 more comfortable.
On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 1:16:30 PM UTC-4, Sean B. wrote:
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> Hey Bunch!
>
> So I've recently set up my new MIT AHH with the albatross bars and
I do one of two things when someone hollers at me as they're driving by: I
either ignore them or I smile and wave. The latter reaction tends to
confuse them, which makes that option a lot more fun.
The people doing this are a-holes, and they're not worth the emotional
capital it would take
The has been hanging on the hook for a while since I switched to tubeless.
Ahem... my local shop said I could set it up tubeless but I didn’t bother
trying.
Here’s the hub:
https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=41505
I used it strictly with an 8spd cassette and
Sale Pending on the San Marcos. I will update thread when it sells, or if
for some reason it doesn't
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Granted, it's been ridden hard and put away wet, but it's certainly worth
cleaning up and riding. I had the Heron Road (first gen Ted Durant version) and
it had an amazing ride. I should have kept it.
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Jeff, that is actually brilliant. Wow. Filing this away. ❤️
Also, I hope the OP doesn’t feel we are saying “be a victim.” Nothing could be
further from the truth. There are some fights worth having and some hills worth
dying on. But taking on arrogant, rude people driving 2 ton steel death
I'm paraphrasing my old therapist, who was allegedly paraphrasing Gandhi,
so Jah knows who actually said what, but:
If you choose to engage, you make it about *you*. If you choose not to
engage, you make it about *them*.
Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA
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I emailed so I’ll see what happens. Sounds like it may generate some interest.
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I use a Hario Mini Slim grinder with an AeroPress in my hotel kit, it works
very well and costs less than half as much as the Porlex. I only use mine
15-20 days a year, so didn't see the point in spending more.
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I don't know how the south is in 2019, but in 1980, in rural NW Georgia,
"rednecks" in baseball caps with rifles on the rack would wave friendly to
one as one was jogging. I saw more traffic nastiness in Washington DC.
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 4:25 PM Edwin W wrote:
> Here in the south I assume
Actually, I too find this to be true here in NM, rural and urban; its a few
disgruntled suburbanites in new vehicles that have been the nastiest, not
rural rednecks.
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 2:01 PM Garth wrote:
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> I find most people quite friendly really I'm rather communicative on
>
Obviously, saddle comfort is very personal. B17s are too wide for me, even on
upright bikes, and I’m not a super skinny guy. I use a carved C15 and it feels
dreamy.
I think a good general rule of thumb is that you’d need a +4cm reach from your
road bike to fit an alba. I think that’s Grants
Really great deal as is but could be repainted and made very fancy too.
Frame is nice enough that out would be well worth what ever you wanted to
spend on paint Nitto components Honjo fenders etc.
Or you could just ride it.
http://www.heronbicycles.com/rand.html
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 6:51
Screaming deal for a hop-on-and-go complete in my, err... our size. I will
give you a 30 minute head start before I hit Send.
Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA
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$600??! Yeah, buy that.
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> Here in the south I assume most people have guns. So I am really working
> on not responding!
>
Not always able to, and always regretful when I respond! Like when a guy
raised his handgun off the dash. He didn't point it at me or anything, but
scared the living daylights out of me.
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I have a theory about saddle-to-bar reach which I never see discussed, so I'll
trot it out here where it may apply:
I think ofentimes saddle and/or hand soreness comes from our bodies trying to
"reach through" the contact points to get to their natural position. For
instance on that AHH I had
Ok, sorry it took so long to update but I couldn't get into the site from
work.
Nitto R14 has SOLD pending payment and shipping
Acorn Large Saddlebag has SOLD pending payment and shipping
Carradice is still available.
If anything falls through with either sale I will update the thread and PM
+1 for getting a 130mm reach Tallux and a setback set back post, based on your
description.
Hopefully those 2 things will ensure your sit bones are over the wider hammock
part of the saddle naturally.
Regardless...if you haven ridden in the last month or longer, you will be a bit
sore on a
to the orignal questions re: selle anatomica. the new models (while i am
not wildly impressed with the quality, and have serious doubts about long
term durability), are quite comfortable out of the box and have slightly
longer rails that may get you an additional cm of setback. not sure i'd
+1 about break in. It's almost impossible to describe to someone breaking in
their first Brooks (I don't know if this applies to the OP) how different it
will feel once the madness of break in is over. I'm still working in a B17 on a
bike I don't ride much, and it's a torture rack. The broken
Does anyone have experience with the Heron Randonneur Bikes? Are they similar
to any of the Rivendell models? One came up on Craigslist and I was curious if
anyone has experience with them.
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-59cm-classic-heron/6869559199.html
59cm Classic
I was amazed how fast angry driver yelling vanished when I started smiling and
waving at each car. Granted this is on rural routes and in small towns, but it
works very well.
With abandon,
Patrick
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I’m with Garth on this one. Most folks are good, and the ones who are cruel are
best ignored and avoided.
When I was learning some self-defense, I found time and time again that the
best advice is to avoid. Don’t engage. Get away if you can. If you can’t, then
become the nastiest, meanest,
The Brooks B-67 is --for most anatomies -- a better choice than the B-17
when paired with upright bars.
Your pelvis rotates backward when you sit upright, and the B-67 (or the
unfortunately discontinued B-68) makes for a better "sit-bones platform."
Leather saddles are like leather shoes,
For a while, I was feeling like my 52cm Clem was too small for me. I felt
like I had really achieved a good balance between bar height and saddle
height. When I felt pressure on my hands, I would raise the bars. When I
felt pressure on the sits bones, I would lower the bars.
But it still felt just
People gonna say what they're gonna say.. it's not like there's
anything to do about it ... just let 'em ramble on and move on. Yes but
what if ... ? You could ask that all day long about everything
and the answer is the same. What if has nothing to with what is, the living
I've heard some good things about Velo Orange's crazy bars, offers both
upright swept and forward bullhorn-like positions. Unfortunately they're
impossible to thread through a quill stem, so you'll need to run a
threadless stem adapter or find a quill stem with a removable faceplate. VO
also
Speaking for myself, Saddle fore/aft on a given bike is a rather fixed
position, meaning there is a sweet spot of "centered-ness" within the
frame. As far as I'm concerned you don't change this just top get more
reach.
Whether or not you're there , It's really an intuitive sense. You
I'v retired from riding on the road. Just to dangerous and not worth it. People
seen to be increasingly aggressive and entitled! My mom who is 62 told me
someone pulled up along side her and cursed her for stopping on a yellow light.
Who curses a 62 year old woman for choosing to stop on a
Does anyone think a seat post with an additional 1cm setback would make any
difference?
On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 2:28:28 PM UTC-5, John Phillips wrote:
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> Joe, I would concur as I have an 11cm Tallux and Alba's on my Hunqapillar
> (original build from RBW), and I'm thinking about moving
Let me know if nobody upstream calls dibs on your R14, I have a tombstone
model and the math is not going my way with that thing sticking up.
Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA
On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 10:54:16 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> If the OP's rack gets snapped up and somebody
Joe, I would concur as I have an 11cm Tallux and Alba's on my Hunqapillar
(original build from RBW), and I'm thinking about moving to a 13cm stem, or
maybe drops and a different stem altogether.
John
On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 11:42:20 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> I'm surprised an 11 was
I think both things are true. the B17 seems to have a relatively small
comfortable/usable area, and the rear of it is somehow the worst. that
said, i cant imagine riding a bike where my tailbone contacted the saddle
on any sort of regular basis. i had a sam for a while and for about a week
it
To be clear so there's no risk in disagreement, I tend to voice my opinions
strongly, which sounds like I think they are facts. They are not facts, they
are my opinions from my experiences.
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At the risk of sparking disagreement, I think the problem lies with the B17
saddle which, in my experience, generally doesn’t support a comfortable upright
riding posture. It flares up in back which seems designed to accommodate a
forward-leaning torso, not one that’s sitting more nearly
Hi Seam,
If I used a seatpost with more setback on my AHH, I'd also have to
lower my saddle a bit to maintain the same distance to my pedals, which
would move my saddle forward a bit. A different stem and handelbars combo
would give you more reach for the buck.
Have you checked out the
I'm surprised an 11 was recommended, I wouldn't even THINK of using an Alba on
that bike with anything less than a 13cm Tallux.
I don't remember what I did with that AHH before I sold it, but my current
similar-size road bike - a Paul Taylor - was running a 13 Tallux and V-O Milan
before I
John,
I'm using an 11cm stem and a seat post with a setback of at least 2cm (I'm
currently unsure and unable to measure). I'm using the seat post that came
with the bike. I'm also looking at a seat post that can give me a larger
setback.
On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 1:26:44 PM UTC-5, John
Sean, what is the reach of the stem you're using with the Albatross bars?
And what is the setback of the seatpost you're using?
On my AHH, I'm using a Nitton S83 seatpost with 2cm setback, and Noodle
bars with an 8cm stem. I think Albatross bars would have me sitting on my
tailbone too unless
Thanks Joe! What did you end up going with?
I really like these bars, even went with a longer stem like Grant
recommended. I might try another seat post. VO has one with 30mm of set
back, I'm not sure what my current is so will have to measure or call. Then
again I might just abandon
Hi James -
I replied a couple weeks ago but have not heard anything. Did you get my
mail?
Is it in your spam folder?
Thanks,
Corwin
On Wednesday, April 3, 2019 at 3:32:56 PM UTC-7, 2shelt...@gmail.com wrote:
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> MORE PICTURES..
>
>
Adam,
I have. The nose is pretty far up currently.
On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 12:42:50 PM UTC-5, Adam Leibow wrote:
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> with upright riding positions people usually tilt the nose of the saddle
> up a little more than you'd expect. try that?
>
> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 10:16:30 AM UTC-7,
Dave,
I have an R14 on my MIT Atlantis, it's very adjustable and I think would fit
any Riv with midstay eyelets. It'll also work on forks with mounts on the
crown, but your bike doesn't have them.
If the OP's rack gets snapped up and somebody still needs one, I'll sell my
tombstone-less R14
My first guess based on the bike you bought, and your desire to move the saddle
further back, is you need more room than the Albatross provides. All Hilsens -
MIT and otherwise - are designed as road bikes which can fit with drop bars,
which is the polar opposite of what you have. I owned a
On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 12:42:50 PM UTC-5, Adam Leibow wrote:
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> with upright riding positions people usually tilt the nose of the saddle
> up a little more than you'd expect. try that?
>
> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 10:16:30 AM UTC-7, Sean B. wrote:
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>> Hey Bunch!
>>
>> So I've
with upright riding positions people usually tilt the nose of the saddle up
a little more than you'd expect. try that?
On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 10:16:30 AM UTC-7, Sean B. wrote:
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> Hey Bunch!
>
> So I've recently set up my new MIT AHH with the albatross bars and the B17
> special. I've
I believe it was today (hitting the saddle), as it's the only time riding
this set up that I've had the issue. I was riding a bit different to
lighten the load on my sit bones. I would like to move the saddle further
back a bit but cant due to the rails.
On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 12:24:32
I'm sorry to hear that you are suffering these attacks. I don't have any
advice, unless it is to say that, in my own case -- and this case is simply
that of my own temperament -- I've probably been saved from beatings by
having such a hot temper that I immediately go ballistic when something
like
Hmm. is your tailbone actually hitting the saddle? that seems like more of
a fit/adjustment issue than breaking in.
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This is a fairly comment problem, I know.
Lately I've had three different incidents where drivers slowed as they
passed me and yelled something. One was, "get off the road" while I was
riding in a marked bike lane, another was a dressing down after I rolled
(at a walking pace) a stop sign in
Hey Bunch!
So I've recently set up my new MIT AHH with the albatross bars and the B17
special. I've only ridden it about half a dozen times (approx 50-60 miles).
I know there's to be some breaking in for the Brooks. But I'm wondering if
the B17 was the wrong choice with the upright Albatross
Hi Kiley,
Apologies for the topic change but your latest response has me wondering... am
I correct in assuming when you say you ‘had’ Paul bar end levers that you’ve
since moved them along already? Just wondering as I’ve actually wanted a pair
to try with v-brakes and other than the
Nice! Is that the little side trail at the top of skyline and grizzly peak?
Alos, how do you like those g-one's on the Oakland/Berkeley trails?
On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 8:31:46 PM UTC-7, Kurt Manley wrote:
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> Perfect spring day in Oakland, CA
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>
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Last bump and Price drop on the panniers:
*Ortlieb Panniers - $75 shipped*
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Large (3 bags total) - $40 shipped CONUS*
On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 3:34:16 PM UTC-7, Michael Ullmer wrote:
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> Stove is gone, Price
Think the Nitto rear rack will fit my MIT Sam? Is it the type that might
also be used as a front rack?
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 9:43 AM Lynn Haas I'm sending you a backup PM on the R14 in case it won't work out for Dave.
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> Lynn
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I should say that if the tape measure is held straight across (as I believe
it is supposed to be), so it hits the middle the middle of the seat tube,
the measurement is 22.5"
On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 8:34:23 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
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> Probably gonna be too small for my desires , but what is
EFT as measured from center to center is 21.5"
On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 8:34:23 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
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> Probably gonna be too small for my desires , but what is would the top
> tube length be?
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Ah, yes. They are CANTILEVER brake levers. For some reason, I don't
remember them being called that. I had a really cool set of Paul bar end
brake levers too. I tried those out, but my "theory" didn't pan out;-).
Thank you for the correction!
On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 3:01:35 PM UTC-7, Sean
I'm sending you a backup PM on the R14 in case it won't work out for Dave.
Lynn
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I'm interested on that Nitto R14. Will it fit my new model Sam Hillborne?
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Hi Doug,
Sorry, I didn't see your question til just now... that's cool about your
99 riv std... our bikes are like brothers... is there a picture?
I really like the wood rims -- they are 36 hole, and they are built up with
DT revolution spokes, which adds to the overall sensation of
What Dave said, Paul cantis, especially combined with Paul levers, are the
best brakes extant.
On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 8:53:17 AM UTC-5, Dave Grossman wrote:
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> Hey Erik,
>
> You are going to get a million opinions but Pauls are really easier than
> all other canti's to setup. The
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