[RBW] FS: J Cyclewear Waterproof Breathable Rain jacket 2XL with helmet cover.

2024-03-07 Thread Kim H.
Late last year I purchased a bright yellow J Cyclewear Waterproof Breathable Rain jacket in size 2XL from their website. I would have bought a 3XL, but they were all sold out. My issue with the jacket is that there is not room for layer underneath it. Therefore, I honestly cannot use it. If

[RBW] FS: Arkel f/r panniers with Old Man Mountain f/r racks

2024-03-07 Thread Kim H.
I have for sale an older set of Arkel GT-18 BR front panniers (retailed for $159.00) and Arkel GT-54 panniers (retailed for $379.00) both in bright red. They are in excellent condition. There are no issues with them. I do not have the rain covers for the front panniers. However, I do have the

[RBW] Re: Trip Report: Death Valley February 2024

2024-03-07 Thread Steve
Diana, love your photography - and - love your Platy with the Chocos. (I'm admittedly biased, but your bike puts both the Salsa and the Kona to shame) On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 6:48:18 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote: > Excellent trip report Diana! You and your friends covered a lot of >

[RBW] ISO: Compact 58mm 22-Teeth Chainring

2024-03-07 Thread John Rinker
Good evening All, Wondering if anyone is holding (and willing to part with) the above mentioned chainring? I have an older XT crank that I'm looking to continue using on my Hunq. Cheers, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Best Rivendell for pavement riding

2024-03-07 Thread john Bokman
Custom paint, Rich? How are you finding the brakes? Very nice looking. I’m running cantilevers on my workhorse Sam (Shimano CX 70), but if I can manage to hustle a second sam in “fast” mode, I may well choose these (given your approval, of course). > On Mar 7, 2024, at 5:55 PM, RichS wrote: >

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen - Toyo Version - 63cm

2024-03-07 Thread MCT
Price drop to $1,250. On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 4:46:23 PM UTC-6 MCT wrote: > Bump. Any offers out there. > > On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 4:24:17 PM UTC-6 MCT wrote: > >> Price Drop to $1350. >> >> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 8:29:17 PM UTC-6 MCT wrote: >> >>> Selling my

Re: [RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

2024-03-07 Thread Michael Ullmer
A few nibbles, but no takers. Another bump and a price drop, $1200 shipped in the US. Also in the market for an Atlantis or Appaloosa sized for an 88pbh On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 11:11:57 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote: > Unfortunately not, that front low-rider rack was actually built

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
Ian thinks "there's a heaping good portion of "I got mine" in your perspective." You are allowed to think whatever you like about me and my motives. Are you in the market for a new (to you) bike now? What is your build concept? Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Thursday, March 7, 2024

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Hoch in ut
Certainly. But it wasn’t an option on the Jabberwocky being a singlespeed. And the fact my legs have the girth of an Andy Kapp hot fry  Non-tech steep climbs were nice on the Clem. Spin seated and you could climb a wall. On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 5:20:56 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread 藍俊彪
On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 4:02 PM ian m wrote: > On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 12:26:11 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: > > All those wanting Rivendell to re-release bikes they made 10 years ago do > NOT have to turn in their Riv card, but they ARE outing themselves as PAWNS > of the T IC. Resist the

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Richard Rose
If I stay seated & spin (long stays) I do not spin out on steep / slightly rocky climbs. Stand up & you are done. I never stand.:)Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2024, at 6:12 PM, Hoch in ut wrote:Keith, I’m assuming you’re in the western Wyoming area? I actually bought a Jabberwocky back in 2010

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread ian m
On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 12:26:11 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: All those wanting Rivendell to re-release bikes they made 10 years ago do NOT have to turn in their Riv card, but they ARE outing themselves as PAWNS of the T IC. Resist the pressures of the Time and Date Industrial Complex!

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread DTL
The 62cm nor easter has 485mm chainstays - to accommodate 29 x 2.6 tires. Longer than a LOT of bikes. It is also a 73/73 low trail bike. (Smaller models have 460mm Stays and are optimized for 27.5 or 26) On a video of PathlessPedaled talking to the Crust folks, Russ asked Matt to go into some

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Hoch in ut
Keith, I’m assuming you’re in the western Wyoming area? I actually bought a Jabberwocky back in 2010 or so. To test out the Wet Cat geo. Bike rode nice but it wasn’t for me. Ironically, I thought it excelled on the descents. Climbing, due to the long chainstays, did not fare so well. Note

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread iamkeith
I'm beating a dead horse here, drifting off-topic, and not really even answering questions that anyone has asked - but adding this excerpt for thread posterity in case I want to find it again. I referred to Vassago's ill-fated attempt to popularize long chainstays in my first post, but this

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
Haha good one. You got me. It is clear and obvious that the Crust Nor'Easter came first, and it is obvious that Grant Petersen, devoid of ideas of his own, just copied the Crust Nor'Easter exactly, and renamed it the Samuel Hillborne to get rich. Anybody can see that. They are exactly the

[RBW] Re: Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

2024-03-07 Thread Conway Bennett
I definitely have a used 172.5 XD2 triple, a used 40 tooth Sugino chainring, and a new 32 tooth Willow chainring I'd sell. On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 12:51:16 PM UTC-6 David wrote: > Thank you, Bill. This is really helpful. > > On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 6:32:08 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay

[RBW] Re: Strange Question - Asymmetric Pedals

2024-03-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
>From the perspective of the machine, the machine won't care. Use two different crank arm lengths if you want to do that. I can't say anything smart about heatstroke and why simmering your brain makes you want to mid-foot pedal with one foot. That's between you and your brain. I have an

[RBW] Strange Question - Asymmetric Pedals

2024-03-07 Thread aeroperf
In June 2022 we did a tour down the Canal du Midi in southern France. In June 2022 it was 105 degrees in the shade in southern France - fires breaking out everywhere - but we had already paid, so we went. Long story short, I got heatstroke and something called compartment syndrome, which

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
Russell Your collection presents like an afficionado of vintage and vintage inspired "classic" road bikes. If your hypothetical Rivendell is going to be "at home" in that collection, it won't be something you buy from Rivendell currently. It's clear to me that you'll want to find a second

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
Steven playfully spoke in code. Steven said: "was it necessary on any size bike, seems like the diamond frame works well enough on some pretty large frames, just take a look a Jobst’ enormous Cinellis as an example." Stevens playfully *decoded* message is: "Double top tubes are stupid and

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Steven Sweedler
Bill, you quoted Grant : When he did it, Grant said it was for fun and said it wasn't necessary, was it necessary on any size bike, seems like the diamond frame works well enough on some pretty large frames, just take a look a Jobst’ enormous Cinellis as an example. Steven Sweedler Plymouth, New

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Piaw Na
What I’m reading is that most of you concur that Grant is not right all the time (with regards to bike design). Big companies are not right all the time. He’s right some of the time, as are the big companies. Answer, as always, is somewhere in the middle. I think it's laughable to think

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Hoch in ut
What I’m reading is that most of you concur that Grant is not right all the time (with regards to bike design). Big companies are not right all the time. He’s right some of the time, as are the big companies. Answer, as always, is somewhere in the middle. It’s a good time to be a cyclist

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Russell Duncan
I’ve not yet bitten the bullet to buy a Rivendell. I am very much interested in owning one, and I really enjoy this discussion group as I do Classic Rendevous. First, I would like to get a Waterford built Rivendell. I currently own a Waterford 1200 with 753 tubing and I love it. The widest

[RBW] Re: Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

2024-03-07 Thread David
Thank you, Bill. This is really helpful. On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 6:32:08 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote: > All that stuff is pretty darn common. One place to go is eBay. > > cranks: https://www.ebay.com/itm/386838756264 > 40 ring: https://www.ebay.com/itm/255458588990 > 32 ring:

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
"That said, some valid ideas veer into the direction of overdoing a good thing. Remember double top tubes on 57 cm Sam Hillbornes? Those never looked right to me, and the whole concept has quietly disappeared except on the largest frames. And yet, for a while double tubes were on half the

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Mathias Steiner
Bill wrote: >> Grant's tastes keep evolving. That's one way to put it. The thing with Grant is that he HAS ideas, and that he gets excited about them, and that he's put himself in a position to do something about it. This is all positive and deserving of respect. Anyone who collects a

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Victor Hanson
snicker.this is leaning into the disk brakes are better than rim brake argument! On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 9:42 AM Bill Lindsay wrote: > "Look at Crust bikes. Somewhat Riv-esque and relatively shorter stays than > Riv’s. Seems to be plenty of demand for them. " > > Absolutely true. Riv

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
"Look at Crust bikes. Somewhat Riv-esque and relatively shorter stays than Riv’s. Seems to be plenty of demand for them. " Absolutely true. Riv employees who want bikes of that kind buy Crusts. Riv-fans who want bikes of that kind should also buy Crusts. They are good bikes and nice people

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
All those wanting Rivendell to re-release bikes they made 10 years ago do NOT have to turn in their Riv card, but they ARE outing themselves as PAWNS of the T IC. Resist the pressures of the Time and Date Industrial Complex! If you don't get the reference then you are neither a blagh nor a

Re: [RBW] Best Rivendell for pavement riding

2024-03-07 Thread Mathias Steiner
@laing Well. That's some garage you've got there. I spy north of $2k invested in leather saddles alone. I approve.I have sent the pictures to my family and informed them that I will no longer take complaints about how I have "too many bicycles" and related nonsense. Thanks for this! cheers

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Hoch in ut
JJ, I don’t think there is a specific definition of long or short chainstay bikes. Just relative to what the mainstream bike are at that point in time. But generally speaking, I’d consider anything under 17” (~430mm) to be short. I had a custom built about 10 years ago and spec’ed it with 16.5”

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread George Schick
Ian sez, "...I still daydream of owning a beautiful lugged Riv that I could ride forever, I understand and appreciate their drive to innovate and embrace change, and know that change is the only real constant, but it's not always for the better" I began serious riding in the midst of the

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
the "long" chainstays on the pictured Atlantis, referred to in the picture of highlighted text, were "long" at the time, because the manufacturers who made those frames (Toyo and Waterford) had chain stays that long. They would either cut them down to the desired length or leave them that

[RBW] Re: Mesabi Trail - Anyone ridden this?

2024-03-07 Thread John
I've visited individual sections but never a long, continuous stretch. I'd liken parts of if to the final section of the Munger State Trail (from Jay Cooke State Park to Duluth) in terms of elevation and twistiness. Sounds

Re: [RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

2024-03-07 Thread Michael Morrissey
The rims are DT Swiss X430 Disc. The hubs are SRAM (later Salsas came with anodized Formula hubs stock!) and the tires are 26" x 1" Ritchey Tom Slicks. M On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 9:43:10 AM UTC-5 wboe...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm positive those were DT mtb rims. I don't believe DT (or

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Richard Rose
I think Riv are pretty transparent about their intentions with the Gus/Susie bikes. They came up with “Hillibike” to differentiate from true (modern) mountain bikes. I too had a Jones 29 - not the spaceframe - a Diamond frame with Unicrown fork. Its modern equivalent is a Jones SWB. It was indeed

Re: [RBW] Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

2024-03-07 Thread Eric Daume
You can buy a guard, but they are also easy to make: get a used/worn/cheap ring that maybe 4 teeth larger than your biggest ring, and grind, snap, or saw the teeth off, then file smooth. Eric On Thursday, March 7, 2024, David wrote: > This is all really great input. The trouble I'm having is

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread ian m
On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 2:11:06 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote: Like Tim, I got an early Clem, thinking it would be an updated, proper-fitting version of an analog 80s or 90s mountain bike - because that's how it was initially concieved and described by Grant. But I admittedly struggled on

[RBW] Re: Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

2024-03-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
All that stuff is pretty darn common. One place to go is eBay. cranks: https://www.ebay.com/itm/386838756264 40 ring: https://www.ebay.com/itm/255458588990 32 ring: https://www.ebay.com/itm/196275801449 People find practically free bike parts at "the bike co-op", or "the local bike kitchen".

[RBW] Re: Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

2024-03-07 Thread David
This is all really great input. The trouble I'm having is finding a configuration out there (new or otherwise) that comes close to the Sugino 74/110 triple with the original 32/40/guard chainrings. Where would you go to gather these parts? On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 12:07:14 PM UTC-8 Drew

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Hoch in ut
I should have clarified. I have never ridden a Jone LWB. I owned the original Jones 29 spaceframe for a number of years. That was a fun bike. I was referring to the Clem. I understand it’s a “Hillibike,” not a mountain bike, in the modern world term of that word. Still, Riv markets it to be

Re: [RBW] Best Rivendell for pavement riding

2024-03-07 Thread Steven Sweedler
Bill, how wide are your tires. Thanks, Steven Sweedler Plymouth, New Hampshire On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 1:00 PM Bill Schairer wrote: > My Atlantis rolls on tubulars. > > Bill S > San Diego > > On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 5:54:54 PM UTC-8 Max S wrote: > >> Do eet! >> >> - Max

Re: [RBW] Best Rivendell for pavement riding

2024-03-07 Thread Bill Schairer
My Atlantis rolls on tubulars. Bill S San Diego On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 5:54:54 PM UTC-8 Max S wrote: > Do eet! > > - Max "Knock-knock... Hi! Have you heard the good news about carbon > tubulars?.." in A2 > > On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 2:26:30 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

[RBW] Re: Video: Repairing Pam Murray's Silver shifters

2024-03-07 Thread ascpgh
Thanks for that Eric, I really appreciate when things are opened and demystified. Suntour's pawled/friction shifter guts have been diagrammed but watching them be opened, disassembled and serviced/reassembled is very rewarding. Really brings out the non-artist, inquisitive amateur mechanic in

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Richard Rose
You don’t know you “need” it until you’ve lived with it.:)Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2024, at 1:36 AM, Mike Godwin wrote:Eric D asked what model Treks.  Good question, as I just walked in on the sout side of the store and exited on the north side. The bikes are lined up in the 2-stack

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-07 Thread Will Boericke
Here's an example of an extra long MTB, Esker's Hayduke. I think there's a shorter version but this one is definitely long. Will On Thu, Mar 7, 2024, 2:11 AM iamkeith wrote: > Hoch, when you say you "got hung up," did you mean when riding a Jones > LWB, or a Clem or other Rivendell model?