[RBW] Re: FS: MUSA Long Pants *SOLD

2021-04-18 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 14:44, Norman Bone wrote: FS: Riv MUSA Long pants. Dark Grey, blue gusset. Brand new. Tags removed but never worn. I'm 33 waist and 32 inseam and these fit great. $75 shipped. Payment with Paypal Friends and Family. Norman in PDX -- You received

[RBW] FS: MUSA Long Pants

2021-04-17 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
FS: Riv MUSA Long pants. Dark Grey, blue gusset. Brand new. Tags removed but never worn. I'm 33 waist and 32 inseam and these fit great. $75 shipped. Payment with Paypal Friends and Family. Norman in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners B

Re: [RBW] FF: Riv catalogs and BQ magazines - All claimed.

2018-09-06 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
All claimed. -Thanks- -nb From: 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch To: "rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 4:51 PM Subject: [RBW] FF: Riv catalogs and BQ magazines For Free to a good home for the cost of actual postage. F

[RBW] FF: Riv catalogs and BQ magazines

2018-09-05 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
For Free to a good home for the cost of actual postage. For my sanity, please choose: A) all of the Riv catalogs or B) all of the BQ mags or C) All of it Riv catalogs:Spring 02Fall/Winter 02Spring/Summer 03Summer/Fall 03Spring/Summer 04Winter 04/05Fall/Winter 052006 #12006 #22007 #19 Bicycle Qua

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-02-01 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
Apologies if this has been mentioned already.Let me take a moment to plug  https://bikeindex.org/ The Portland cops check it and I imagine other jurisdictions do as well. Norman 'Locked and unloaded' Bone in Portland, OR From: lconley To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Thursday, February 1, 20

[RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-02-01 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
ER-I'm honestly curious. An 'easy target' for what? I'm having a hard time imagining harm coming from what I post here. Thanks--Norman 'Mostly a good apple' Bone in Portland, OR From: EasyRider To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 11:17 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Are you u

[RBW] Old Man Petersen's House of Ferrous Velocipedes and Vinyl Seat Tube Decals

2017-11-14 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
All-These were printed back in Jan. 2016 and sold out almost immediately. With the resurrection of this thread, folks have started sending me money for stickers that I don't have. Since there may be some new demand, I'm considering doing another run of 100. If I do, I'll post here when I have th

Re: [RBW] regarding orange bikes

2017-05-04 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
As the original owner of an orange '99 allrounder and an orange XO1 (6 years), I'm gonna say no way am I tired of it! Orange is the fastest color anyway.Rivendell All-Rounder and Bridgestone XO-1 | | | | || | | | || Rivendell All-Rounder and Bridgestone XO-1 |

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - Riv Fork; 26" wheel canti

2017-04-08 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
Great idea. I'd buy two for sure. -Norm '559 forever' Bone in PDX From: Michael Morrissey To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 6:35 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: WTB - Riv Fork; 26" wheel canti I was looking for almost the same thing and couldn't find it.  I bought an ordin

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
6" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 4:49:17 PM UTC-7, Norman Bone wrote: Thanks Hugh! It looks like 59 was a large as you could go with 26. Catalog says 61, 63 and 65 went to 700c I'm guessing that this particular catalog excerpt was from later in

Re: [RBW] FS: Riv ShopSack, medium green

2016-02-17 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hey Joe-I'll take it. Are you in Portland too? -Norm in Woodstock From: Joe Bernard To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:58 PM Subject: [RBW] FS: Riv ShopSack, medium green Bought last year for a front porteur rack which never seems to find its way to a bike

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
http://velocipeedemusings.com/ On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 3:28 PM, 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: I have a 59 AR with 26" wheels. match built in '99. -Norm in PDX Rivendell All Rounder |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | Rivendell All Rounder | | | | View on ww

Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
I have a 59 AR with 26" wheels. match built in '99. -Norm in PDX Rivendell All Rounder |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | Rivendell All Rounder | | | | View on www.flickr.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | |   | From: Steven Sweedler To: "rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com" Sent: Wednesd

Re: [RBW] Re: Nomenclature

2016-01-15 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
Alright sticker peeps, here's the deal. Send me a self addressed stamped envelope with a dollar for each sticker you want and I'll send them out. If we burn through this initial 100 and there is still demand, I'll do another run. Send to: Norman Bone5807 SE 47th AvePortland, OR97206 Weird obituar

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Red

2015-08-24 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
Pretty sure that is a Joe Starck built custom and not an Atlantis (see comments). -Norm in PDX President Jimmy Carter with his Rivendell Atlantis |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | President Jimmy Carter with his Rivendell Atlantis | | | | View on www.flickr.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | |   |

[RBW] FS: Brooks C17 Natural

2015-07-28 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
FS. Brooks C17. Natural. Purchased new from Riv. Mounted and ridden 30 miles and removed. No clamp marks. Essentially still brand new.  $135+shipping. Pix available. Norm in PDX bone1966 at yahoo dot com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owne

[RBW] FS: Brooks C17 Natural

2015-06-13 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
Brooks C17. Natural. Purchased new from Riv. Mounted and ridden 30 miles and removed. No clamp marks. Essentially still brand new. My butt prefers the B17. $140+shipping. I can email you a pic if you want. Norm in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Spotted on Bike Portland site

2015-06-05 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
Looks to be an All Rounder. -Norm in PDX From: JohnS To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 7:01 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Spotted on Bike Portland site So which model Riv is it???  On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 1:24:56 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com

Re: [RBW] Brilliant Bicycle Company

2015-05-29 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
"Brilliant Bicycles are hand-crafted at a state-of-the-art, wind-powered manufacturing facility in Taiwan. " From: Eric Daume To: rbw-owners-bunch Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Brilliant Bicycle Company I really doubt those are MUSA at that price. On Fri,

Re: [RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question

2015-03-30 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
Was this during World Naked Bike Ride? -Norm who has not experienced ass hair yankage with his Cambium in PDX From: Amit Singh To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 1:52 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question Maybe TMI, maybe a laugh for some, b

Re: [RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-19 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
All-Is anyone still making indexed DT shifters? -Norman 'waiting for the Pineapple Express in PDX' Bone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rb

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Gorgeous Custom on the 'Bay

2014-10-29 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
Looks like a '99 All Rounder to me (same lugs as my '99 anyway). Geo chart here:http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/gen1/rivcat05_framespecs.jpg |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | | | | | View on www.cyclofiend.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | |   | Norm in PDX. From: "cyclotour...@gmai

[RBW] Large Saddlesack space between rack and saddle loop

2014-06-05 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hello- I have 11" of space from the saddle loops to the rack on my AR. I'm wanting to buy and run a large Riv Saddlesack there but I was wondering if that is too much space. The specs for the bag make it seem that up to 9" is the max. Anyone using a large saddlesack with more than 9" of air betw

Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto R14 Top Rack, Trangia Large Anodized Cookset

2014-05-30 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hey Zack- Are the struts cut on the rack? -Norm From: Zack To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 9:42 AM Subject: [RBW] FS: Nitto R14 Top Rack, Trangia Large Anodized Cookset Selling some lightly used stuff. Nitto Top Rack, 9

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell: Normcore for Cyclists?

2014-04-16 Thread Norman Bone
Aren't you President of the Red Wing Chukka Club of Portland, OR? Hey man, I'm happy "... dressing like a mild-mannered mental patient or a bewildered Icelandic exchange student circa 1984". Don't hate me 'cause I'm beautiful. -Norm 'core' Bone in Portland, OR _

Re: [RBW] 7 speed cassette question

2014-04-15 Thread Norman Bone
Hey Jim- Seems that the 8spd cassettes have the somewhat useless 11t cog on the cassettes that have the 30+ tooth big cog that I'm pretty sure that Zack needs/wants. However, the 7spds have 13-30 or 34 and seem to have more useful gears for PDX. -Norman Bone friction shifting 9spd 13-

[RBW] Re: Compass 26" tire vs. Soma New Express 26" tire.

2014-03-04 Thread Norman Bone
I have less than 50 miles on mine so not much to report. They seem to ride fine. Not night and day from the Panaracer Hi-Road tires I had before. May be hairsplitting but I can tell you that the 1.75" measures 1.6" on a Velocity Aeroheat rim. -Norman in PDX.

[RBW] Caveman ketchup

2013-11-25 Thread Norman Bone
The horse is dead. For the love of Henry J. Heinz, take this offline! For Deacon Patrick , -Norm 'old stick in the ketchup' Bone From: Chris Halasz To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Caveman

Re: [RBW] Portland Area Country Bike Group

2013-10-14 Thread Norman Bone
Dude, you stole my idea and didn't name it after me???  :)  From: Andy Smitty Schmidt <54ca...@gmail.com> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 4:57 PM Subject: [RBW] Portland Area Country Bike Group It seems Portland area r

[RBW] 65cm Riv Redwood on PDX CL

2013-09-10 Thread Norman Bone
Man, haven't seen one of these in a while! No affiliation, blah, blah. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/4059216795.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] FS: Suntour shifters, Paul brakes, Phil hub, parts for sale

2013-06-04 Thread Norman Bone
Cleaning out the stash: Pix here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bonehaus/sets/72157629348609808/ Prices plus actual shipping. Paypal or check is fine. Phil Wood rear hub - Used, good Freewheel hub, 7spd 135 OLD Bearings good, never abused $90 -- Ritchey CompLite stem - Brand New 22.2 100mm ext

[RBW] FS: Parts for sale

2013-05-16 Thread Norman Bone
Bike parts for sale Pix here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bonehaus/sets/72157629348609808/ Prices plus actual shipping. Paypal or check is fine. Ritchey CompLite stem - New 22.2 100mm ext $45 -- Suntour Sprint shifters - New LD-4850 $50 --     Deore 7sp thumbshifters - Very Good SL-MT62 $35 -

[RBW] Nice Heron Touring on PDX CL

2013-05-05 Thread Norman Bone
No connection to seller. Seems like a good price for a nice bike. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/3786218056.html -Norm in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[RBW] FS: Paul Neo Retro Brakes - NIB

2013-04-30 Thread Norman Bone
Brand new Paul Neo Retro brakes. Silver. 1 wheel's worth. Brand new in sealed bag. Includes Kool Stop Salmon pads. Pic of brakes inside a plastic bag available. $95 shipped. PayPal or check. Thanks- Norm in Portland, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

[RBW] Rambouillet on PDX CL

2013-04-19 Thread Norman Bone
Not mine. Pretty sure Rambos weren't made by Waterford, right? http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/3753972062.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Rear rack advice/suggestions

2013-04-08 Thread Norman Bone
Looking for a nice silver rear rack for my A/R. Something that can take panniers. I was looking at this one at Riv (Nitto Big Back Rack): http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r4.htm . Anyone have experience with it? Any other silver racks I should be looking at? -Norman in PDX -- You received

[RBW] Get a Betty Foy, old man

2013-04-02 Thread Norman Bone
Study says old men should ride B. Foys. http://www.thelocal.se/47064/20130331/#.UVsYP0rDmRJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch

[RBW] 60cm Rambouillet on PDX CL

2013-04-02 Thread Norman Bone
Not mine. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/3714729944.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.c

[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

2013-03-26 Thread Norman Bone
Corrected: IIRC, you could get canti or sidepull for the LL. At least early on. -Norm in PDX. From: Joe Bernard To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:06 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay. Are we sure it

Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

2013-03-26 Thread Norman Bone
IIRC, you could get canti or sidepull. At least early on. -Norm in PDX. From: Joe Bernard To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:06 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay. Are we sure it's an A/R? The 700c Long

Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

2013-03-26 Thread Norman Bone
The oldest catalog I have is '99 and ARs were 1575. -Norm in PDX From: hsmitham To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:11 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay. Edwin I was thinking the same thing. What did th

Re: [RBW] Horizontal Drop outs??? was: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins

2013-03-22 Thread Norman Bone
The early Riv models (Long Low, Road Standard and All-Rounder) were considered production. If you wanted to deviate from how they were configured, Riv charged a 'Custom' fee. See the 'Custom frames' heading at the bottom: http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/gen1/rivcat05_framespecs.jpg I don't

[RBW] Blue 60cm Rambouillet on Portland CL

2013-03-01 Thread Norman Bone
No affiliation with seller: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/3630070822.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr

Re: [RBW] My Riv AllRounder

2013-01-08 Thread Norman Bone
there are some ARs out there.  I wonder how many since Riv has kind of moved away from that initial design (although arguably all of their bikes are ARs). Regards, On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Norman Bone wrote: AW- > >Thanks for sharing those. I remember seeing pix of your AR befor

Re: [RBW] My Riv AllRounder

2013-01-08 Thread Norman Bone
AW- Thanks for sharing those. I remember seeing pix of your AR before I ordered mine and thinking how awesome and fun it looked. Nice to be reminded of the utility and versatility of the mighty AR. Of course, orange makes it faster. - Norm also with an orange AR in PDX _

[RBW] Re: All-Rounder for sale

2012-12-10 Thread Norman Bone
There's a Flickr group with some color pix of All Rounders. http://www.flickr.com/groups/allrounder/ -Norman in PDX From: Michael To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 2:21 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: All-Rounder for sale Wow! T

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Norman Bone
Hi Steve- Have you read this?: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Presence-of-Mind-Buckle-Up-And-Behave.html Norman in Portland, OR From: Steve Palincsar To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [RBW]

[RBW] 53cm Atlantis on PDX CL

2012-07-17 Thread Norman Bone
On the PDX CL. Not mine: http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/bik/3145595792.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send ema

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell MTB sold on EBay

2012-07-09 Thread Norman Bone
Here's my 59cm All Rounder running 26x1.5. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bonehaus/7151248901/in/photostream/ -Norman in PDX From: John Speare To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell MTB sold on

Re: [RBW] Rivish Ramble on Monday - PDX

2012-06-16 Thread Norman Bone
Are you still interested in Sunday's ride? I'll be at work on Mon. From: Andy Smitty Schmidt <54ca...@gmail.com> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 9:12 AM Subject: [RBW] Rivish Ramble on Monday - PDX In response to the commen

[RBW] Wide profile canti brake recs

2012-05-03 Thread Norman Bone
I need to raise the cable hanger on my front brake to accommodate the diving board for a Mark's Rack. The current low profile brakes are marginal (at best) with the hanger closer to the tire and I anticipate that they will not cut the mustard if I raise the hanger another inch or so. I'm using t

Re: [RBW] Re: All Rounder vs Bleriot for light touring

2012-04-24 Thread Norman Bone
Hi Jim- Could you expand on what 'good things happened to bikes' (Riv ARs) since 1996? -Norm in PDX From: Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 7:12 AM Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: All Rounder vs Bleriot f

Re: [RBW] Bi-State s36o... Cascadia Style

2012-04-16 Thread Norman Bone
Nice pix bro. Did you take a tent or some other shelter? -Norm From: Smitty <54ca...@gmail.com> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 9:01 PM Subject: [RBW] Bi-State s36o... Cascadia Style In case you haven't looked at a map lat

[RBW] FS. parts for sale

2012-04-01 Thread Norman Bone
Clearing out the stash. Prices plus actual shipping. Paypal or check is fine. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bonehaus/sets/72157629348609808/ -Norm in sopping wet PDX, OR Brooks Champion Flyer saddle Honey, small copper rivets, black rails/springs. New. $110 Ritchey Comp Lite stem 22.2 100mm e

Re: [RBW] Rode My First Rando Event Today

2012-03-19 Thread Norman Bone
Hey that's me! I'm on the orange XO-1 with the yellow jacket. Andy's request for advice and the corresponding tips got me off the couch to go on my first Rando as well. All the folks we met were super nice and the roads were in good shape. No issues with traffic. Unfortunately, I had some major

[RBW] FS: Brooks Saddles

2012-03-14 Thread Norman Bone
Hello- Cleaning out the parts stash. I have two never ridden, new Brooks saddles for sale. -B17 Champion Special - Honey, large copper rivets, black rails. New but has some minor shelf wear. $100 -Champion Flyer - Honey, small copper rivets, black rails/springs. New. $110 Pictures available up

[RBW] 59cm Riv A/R for sale on Bend, OR CL

2012-01-05 Thread Norman Bone
This looks like a nice score for someone. No affiliation, etc. http://portland.craigslist.org/grg/bik/2785466823.html -Norman in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@goo

Re: [RBW] Nitto Mini Rack and Riv All Rounder fork

2011-11-09 Thread Norman Bone
I wonder if they changed the struts length on the Nitto Mini. The bike was made in '99 by match and was spec'd for a Nitto mini, IIRC. I don't think bending the struts is an option. The pictures might not show it well enough but if I bend the struts down, they will move away from the braze-on si

[RBW] Nitto Mini Rack and Riv All Rounder fork

2011-11-08 Thread Norman Bone
Hello- I recently purchased a used Nitto Mini Rack to put on my Riv A/R. To my surprise the struts are just short of the braze-ons. I measured the distance between the fork crown hole and the braze-on and get 155mm. But the Nitto rack measures 150 from the stud to the strut mounting hole. All me

Re: [RBW] TA Zephyr triple and bb length

2011-10-20 Thread Norman Bone
ans a nice gouge in your frame. I seem to recall 125mm being spec'd for this application..you need that 125 Phil. -- On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Norman Bone wrote: > Hello- > Are you running a TA Zephyr triple on your Riv? What brand of bb and length > are you using? > I

[RBW] TA Zephyr triple and bb length

2011-10-19 Thread Norman Bone
Hello- Are you running a TA Zephyr triple on your Riv? What brand of bb and length are you using? I have a match-built AR with a Phil 123+3 and the teeth on the 42 middle ring are so close to the stay I can barely see light in the gap. Wondering if I should go longer, live with it or go to a s