Re: [RBW] Appaloosa Build Opinions

Nice build. Off-topic alert. I recently changed my Clem to 1x and am using a 40T chainring and 11-48 cassette. I never use the 48 and think I could easily have gone with a 11-42. I'm interested to find out how you do on steep inclines with the 42/36 low gear with this setup. Thanks, Doug On Thu

Re: [RBW] Appaloosa Build Opinions

Doug Van Cleve wrote: Hey Ted. Not sure if you mean the OG Moustache or the Albastache, but I can tell you the OG requires a very short stem compared to drops. It's because the main hand position is the full reach, there really isn't a good tops position like drops. I gather that Albastache

Re: [RBW] Appaloosa Build Opinions

Hey Ted! I’ve got a 53cm Atlantis with 100mm stem and albatross bars, and a near 0 mm stem with mustache bars on my Holdsworth. Both super different vibes, but I’m in Atlanta if you have a desire to check either of them out! Love my Alba bars though! On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 10:35:38 PM U

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I started with SimWorks Little Nick bars with a 80mm 7 shaped stem on my Appaloosa. Decided to try Billie bars after a few months just to see if I would like a more upright position. For me, they felt too upright, and made pedaling hard / standing up to climb feel awkward. I put the SimWorks b

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I clearly too WAY too long pondering my response, Garth nailed it here IMHO... Doug On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 4:27 PM Garth wrote: > Now that I see Ted's bike the picture is more clear. the VO bars are the > Grand Randonneur version which is markedly different from the Nouveau > version. The dif

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Hey Ted, Pretty sure your pic confirms my suspicion... Those bars have quite a long reach and a fair bit of drop. Even keeping the stem, something like a Soma Highway One in 44 or 46cm would shorten your reach and drop a decent amount: https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/soma-handlebar-hwy-one-road

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Now that I see Ted's bike the picture is more clear. the VO bars are the Grand Randonneur version which is markedly different from the Nouveau version. The difference in reach is 35mm, 120mm down to 85mm. I was going to mention this but I assumed you had the Nouveau version. That bar or one li

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Slick build, Ted. Although I just ordered a pair of Albatross bars yesterday for my Platypus I'm gonna throw in a vote for keeping the drop bars and going with a shorter stem. I would like to try drops on my Platy at some point but can't shake the visual aspect of drops on a "trip thru" frame,

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Also, I recommend looking at whatbars.com to compare handlebar shapes! On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 6:16:17 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote: > I'm a joe appaloosa rider and I've had mine set up at different times > with: Loscos, Riv Bullmoose, Nitto B802AA, and currently its got the > classic albatros

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I take all claims of a certain frame supposedly being designed for a certain type of bar with a grain of salt as there are endless variables that come in to play. The first is the rider themselves, not just body proportions but flexibility, core strength and their ability to ride in a position

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I need to learn to proofread better considering I can't edit my posts here. On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 4:09:21 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: > Unless there is a reason to need the stiffness there isn't much of a > reason to go with the moose version of the choco bar over a standard > bar/stem

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Unless there is a reason to need the stiffness there isn't much of a reason to go with the moose version of the choco bar over a standard bar/stem combo. WAY more flexibility that way. Now if you need the robustness or stiffness that the moose version is very nice but it IS overbuilt or most ap

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If between the Billie and Alba I'd go Billie, having run both. Much prefer the longer sweep back of the Billie and greater real estate for shifters, levers and the "hooks" position on the bars which for me is critical for climbing or spirited riding. On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 2:02:12 PM UT

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Hey Ted. Not sure if you mean the OG Moustache or the Albastache, but I can tell you the OG requires a very short stem compared to drops. It's because the main hand position is the full reach, there really isn't a good tops position like drops. I gather that Albastache was designed mostly to sho

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That's an interesting idea, Doug. I would have never considered flipping Albatross bars like that. Another option I've considered is Mustache bars with flat bar levers near the back instead of the typical road levers up front. It seems to me like those are similar, if narrower, than something like

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Hey Ted. I personally wouldn't run a super short stem, but those wide drops (and if I'm not mistaken relatively long reach) are making things worse for you. A narrower modern bend, short and shallow drop bar would reduce the reach a fair bit, I think. That said, I don't think any of the current

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Albatross bars are pretty versatile with a large range of positions and work well on roadish bikes that see some dirt. I've found that using a stem 30-40mm longer than my drop bar stem puts the grips of the Albatross bar in a more upright position than the tops of the drop bar, and moving my ha

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If you don't want to be too upright and want to maintain a bit of the feel of drops I highly recommend the choco or losco bars. On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 10:37:51 AM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote: > For me, when in doubt, try Albatross. Other bars can be hit or miss for me > on different frames

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For me, when in doubt, try Albatross. Other bars can be hit or miss for me on different frames. The albatross never disappoints me. I just switched my Joe to from Chocomoose to albatross and they feel terrific - free and easy. I don’t see a benefit in using a really short stem to maintain dro

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My limited experience with these bikes is that it's probably best to set them up the way they were designed. That reach is such an important factor in the comfort of a bike. I've been considering Joes and Sams and Altantises a lot lately, and if I were to choose a Joe, it would definitely have eith

[RBW] Appaloosa Build Opinions

Got my Appa on Monday, built it yesterday and commuted to work on it today. First impressions are that it's exactly what I had hoped for. The ride is amazing and it feels so plush while still remaining responsive; nimble yet stable. But I think it could still be better and I want to channel the wis

Re: [RBW] Appaloosa build - beta version

It's on a truck for delivery to a post office box in blaine. I live across the border in the lower mainland bc, so I'll have to drive down to pick it up. It should be delivered Tuesday and I'm hoping to get a chance to get down there Wednesday or Thursday. No need for measurements yet -- I'll

Re: [RBW] Appaloosa build - beta version

Hi Sky and thanks... Except for the strong rider part, I may very well resemble your friend! I laugh even as I type it, but, yeah, I should probably at least go see(!) a doctor to get their opinion. I have been so lucky most of my life (and am now 64, so a good run...) that I always believe e

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Bob, It looks great! Seeing it makes me second guess my decision about getting a 55cm. Hope your knee gets better. One of the guys i bike across canada w was 68 and had had knee replacement surgery a couple years before. He was a strong rider and felt like he shoulda had the surgery years ea

[RBW] Appaloosa build - beta version

Even though I am still figuring out some crankset/BB issues on a preferred set-up, I could not stand it and built the bike up and went riding! This is very much the beta release, though the basics are certainly there. It will, I think, end up with Berthoud fenders, racks (Tubus Cosmo rear, Nit

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Hi Bob, that's a modified Weehoo trailer. We use it constantly. https://rideweehoo.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsu

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J Imler, What trailer is that!? Looks great! Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

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Love it! On Tuesday, October 11, 2016, J Imler wrote: > See link for daily chauffeur mode - https://drive.google.com/file/d/ > 0BwHqG1q8uHdcNGp1WEFSOV96LTA/view?usp=drivesdk > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubs

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I've had 54mm Thunderburts on my 58cm Appaloosa. They work really well. No problems, great tires. I wouldn't hesitate to run the 55 Big Bens on it either. But 60mm Super Moto's or Big Ones? I don't know... they might fit on the stand. They are going to be really tight. But out in the field I wou

[RBW] Appaloosa Build

Has anyone tried to sqeeze a 60mm tire in the Joe? Looks possible, no fenders of course. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+un

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That's a lovely bike. Love the color, I have a blue Appaloosa, too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroup

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See my build here . Fluid on descents and all day long comfort just riding. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

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That's a lovely bike, especially with those vintage XTR cranks. I was at RBW HQ today and saw a mustard double-tuber like yours..just gorgeous. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receivi