Nice build. Off-topic alert. I recently changed my Clem to 1x and am using
a 40T chainring and 11-48 cassette. I never use the 48 and think I could
easily have gone with a 11-42. I'm interested to find out how you do on
steep inclines with the 42/36 low gear with this setup.
Thanks,
Doug
On
Doug Van Cleve wrote:
Hey Ted.
Not sure if you mean the OG Moustache or the Albastache, but I can tell you
the OG requires a very short stem compared to drops. It's because the main
hand position is the full reach, there really isn't a good tops position
like drops. I gather that Albastache
Hey Ted!
I’ve got a 53cm Atlantis with 100mm stem and albatross bars, and a near 0
mm stem with mustache bars on my Holdsworth. Both super different vibes,
but I’m in Atlanta if you have a desire to check either of them out!
Love my Alba bars though!
On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 10:35:38 PM
I started with SimWorks Little Nick bars with a 80mm 7 shaped stem on my
Appaloosa. Decided to try Billie bars after a few months just to see if I
would like a more upright position. For me, they felt too upright, and
made pedaling hard / standing up to climb feel awkward. I put the SimWorks
I clearly too WAY too long pondering my response, Garth nailed it here
IMHO...
Doug
On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 4:27 PM Garth wrote:
> Now that I see Ted's bike the picture is more clear. the VO bars are the
> Grand Randonneur version which is markedly different from the Nouveau
> version. The
Hey Ted,
Pretty sure your pic confirms my suspicion... Those bars have quite a long
reach and a fair bit of drop. Even keeping the stem, something like a Soma
Highway One in 44 or 46cm would shorten your reach and drop a decent
amount:
Now that I see Ted's bike the picture is more clear. the VO bars are the
Grand Randonneur version which is markedly different from the Nouveau
version. The difference in reach is 35mm, 120mm down to 85mm. I was going
to mention this but I assumed you had the Nouveau version. That bar or one
Slick build, Ted.
Although I just ordered a pair of Albatross bars yesterday for my Platypus
I'm gonna throw in a vote for keeping the drop bars and going with a
shorter stem. I would like to try drops on my Platy at some point but can't
shake the visual aspect of drops on a "trip thru" frame,
Also, I recommend looking at whatbars.com to compare handlebar shapes!
On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 6:16:17 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
> I'm a joe appaloosa rider and I've had mine set up at different times
> with: Loscos, Riv Bullmoose, Nitto B802AA, and currently its got the
> classic
I take all claims of a certain frame supposedly being designed for a
certain type of bar with a grain of salt as there are endless variables
that come in to play. The first is the rider themselves, not just body
proportions but flexibility, core strength and their ability to ride in a
position
I need to learn to proofread better considering I can't edit my posts here.
On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 4:09:21 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
> Unless there is a reason to need the stiffness there isn't much of a
> reason to go with the moose version of the choco bar over a standard
>
Unless there is a reason to need the stiffness there isn't much of a reason
to go with the moose version of the choco bar over a standard bar/stem
combo. WAY more flexibility that way. Now if you need the robustness or
stiffness that the moose version is very nice but it IS overbuilt or most
If between the Billie and Alba I'd go Billie, having run both. Much prefer
the longer sweep back of the Billie and greater real estate for shifters,
levers and the "hooks" position on the bars which for me is critical for
climbing or spirited riding.
On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 2:02:12 PM
Hey Ted.
Not sure if you mean the OG Moustache or the Albastache, but I can tell you
the OG requires a very short stem compared to drops. It's because the main
hand position is the full reach, there really isn't a good tops position
like drops. I gather that Albastache was designed mostly to
That's an interesting idea, Doug. I would have never considered flipping
Albatross bars like that. Another option I've considered is Mustache bars
with flat bar levers near the back instead of the typical road levers up
front. It seems to me like those are similar, if narrower, than something
like
Hey Ted.
I personally wouldn't run a super short stem, but those wide drops (and if
I'm not mistaken relatively long reach) are making things worse for you. A
narrower modern bend, short and shallow drop bar would reduce the reach a
fair bit, I think. That said, I don't think any of the current
Albatross bars are pretty versatile with a large range of positions and
work well on roadish bikes that see some dirt. I've found that using a stem
30-40mm longer than my drop bar stem puts the grips of the Albatross bar in
a more upright position than the tops of the drop bar, and moving my
If you don't want to be too upright and want to maintain a bit of the feel
of drops I highly recommend the choco or losco bars.
On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 10:37:51 AM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:
> For me, when in doubt, try Albatross. Other bars can be hit or miss for me
> on different
For me, when in doubt, try Albatross. Other bars can be hit or miss for me
on different frames. The albatross never disappoints me. I just switched my
Joe to from Chocomoose to albatross and they feel terrific - free and easy.
I don’t see a benefit in using a really short stem to maintain
My limited experience with these bikes is that it's probably best to set
them up the way they were designed. That reach is such an important factor
in the comfort of a bike. I've been considering Joes and Sams and
Altantises a lot lately, and if I were to choose a Joe, it would definitely
have
Got my Appa on Monday, built it yesterday and commuted to work on it today.
First impressions are that it's exactly what I had hoped for. The ride is
amazing and it feels so plush while still remaining responsive; nimble yet
stable. But I think it could still be better and I want to channel the
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