Re: [RBW] Cyclists' legal rights, from a cop magazine: very much worth reading.

2013-08-02 Thread Lyle Bogart
Interesting article, Patrick. Thanks for posting it! Cheers! lyle On 1 August 2013 18:52, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: http://lawandordermag.epubxp.**com/i/144260/54http://lawandordermag.epubxp.com/i/144260/54 Very much worth reading, and thanks to the boblister who posted it

Re: [RBW] Cyclists' legal rights, from a cop magazine: very much worth reading.

2013-08-02 Thread Tim McNamara
Reading this article reminds me of an incident from 1994. Back when I was a member of the Gopher Wheelmen racing team I was on our usual Tuesday or Thursday training ride. We were riding north on Victoria in Roseville where the Roseville Estates home is now located; we were on a ~10 foot wide

Re: [RBW] Cyclists' legal rights, from a cop magazine: very much worth reading.

2013-08-02 Thread Ron Mc
Thanks Steve, I couldn't read the link on the work computer, but the pdf is great. The article is also very good. Educating police officers is good, but this information needs to get to the general public. The lane controlling discussion reminds me of is a big shopping center in town where

Re: [RBW] Cyclists' legal rights, from a cop magazine: very much worth reading.

2013-08-02 Thread Anne Paulson
Ron, Not only did your friend take ten minutes longer, but he failed on one very important safety rule: Do not place yourself to the right of right-turning cars if you are going straight. Going straight when the cars to the left of you are turning right is a recipe for being right hooked. So

Re: [RBW] Cyclists' legal rights, from a cop magazine: very much worth reading.

2013-08-02 Thread Ron Mc
I was really surprised Anne - he has the real commuting experience going back to college days. He taught me to control lanes downtown where bicycles mesh with the auto queue. He just wasn't thinking and took the curb as a defensive, in this case, bad habit. Once he got there, his ethic is

Re: [RBW] Cyclists' legal rights, from a cop magazine: very much worth reading.

2013-08-02 Thread Ron Mc
On Friday, August 2, 2013 12:21:35 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: Ron, Not only did your friend take ten minutes longer, but he failed on one very important safety rule: Do not place yourself to the right of right-turning cars if you are going straight. Going straight when the cars

Re: [RBW] Cyclists' legal rights, from a cop magazine: very much worth reading.

2013-08-02 Thread Anne Paulson
I hate spots like that. Good lane striping can help. San Antonio is pretty good on bike lanes, and getting better, but an inherently dangerous spot is where bikes have to merge left go straight and cars have to cross the bike lane into a right-turn-only lane. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't

Re: [RBW] Cyclists' legal rights, from a cop magazine: very much worth reading.

2013-08-02 Thread Ron Mc
of course our clay is white so it all blends together powdery gray. On Friday, August 2, 2013 12:48:23 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: I hate spots like that. Good lane striping can help. San Antonio is pretty good on bike lanes, and getting better, but an inherently dangerous spot is

Re: [RBW] Cyclists' legal rights, from a cop magazine: very much worth reading.

2013-08-02 Thread Patrick Moore
The one time I was hit by a car was at an intersection, going straight and failing to look left at a car that was turning right. Fortunately the damage to me and bike was relatively light and the driver's insurance paid up very generously. Since then I have taken to pulling out to the center or

Re: [RBW] Cyclists' legal rights, from a cop magazine: very much worth reading.

2013-08-02 Thread Anne Paulson
I agree, Patrick. When I am approaching an intersection I'm going straight at, and there is following traffic, I try to clearly indicate, with my body language, that I am going straight through the intersection and not turning. I don't hug the curb. I of course never get in the right turning

[RBW] Cyclists' legal rights, from a cop magazine: very much worth reading.

2013-08-01 Thread Patrick Moore
http://lawandordermag.epubxp.**com/i/144260/54http://lawandordermag.epubxp.com/i/144260/54 Very much worth reading, and thanks to the boblister who posted it on that list. I think it worth posting on this one. I, an urban commuter since roughly 1967, learned new things. Note that, with a bit of