Re: [RBW] Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

2022-03-06 Thread Drw
Just to close this loop, I bought an Acera derailler (surprisingly nice), popped it on and it works perfectly. Didn't even really need to adjust anything other than the limit screws. If anyone wants an LX rapid rise in good shape, let me know. On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 7:09:19 AM UTC-8 Pam

Re: [RBW] Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

2022-03-01 Thread Pam Bikes
Just don't index. I'm using the RR and the bar end shifters - both on friction. Never needs adjusting. You adjust it each time you shift - just like an old radio dial. My RR is one of my only original parts on my bike 63,000 miles in. On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 12:36:55 PM UTC-5 Drw

Re: [RBW] Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

2022-02-28 Thread Joe Bernard
Moving the shifter shouldn't be a problem, I suspect you simply don't have quite what you need to index-shift that low-normal mech. Joe Bernard On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 1:56:33 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > Interesting. Will moving the shifter location on the handlebar generally

Re: [RBW] Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

2022-02-28 Thread Richard Rose
Interesting. Will moving the shifter location on the handlebar generally require a cable adjustment? I’ve been playing quite a bit with where I want those shifters. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 28, 2022, at 8:37 AM, James Valiensi wrote: > > Hi, > As a matter of fact, derailleur cables do

Re: [RBW] Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

2022-02-28 Thread Garth
Yes, all 6--9 speed road and mtn stuff adheres to the same cable pull ratio. On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 12:36:55 PM UTC-5 Drw wrote: > Thanks all, > Yes, the shifters do friction and that's how it's being used now. Seems to > hold the gears fine in friction. > Follow up question. Is

Re: [RBW] Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

2022-02-28 Thread Drw
Thanks all, Yes, the shifters do friction and that's how it's being used now. Seems to hold the gears fine in friction. Follow up question. Is ALL shimano 9 speed the same? Road/MTN? Thinking I may just pick up a 9 speed altus if the tinkering doesnt pan out. On Monday, February 28, 2022 at

Re: [RBW] Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

2022-02-28 Thread James Valiensi
Hi, As a matter of fact, derailleur cables do not stretch. The forces involved in shifting are many orders of magnitude lower than the yield stress required to stretch the cable. What actually happens is that inside liner of the cable housing wears and causes the cable to become looser.

Re: [RBW] Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

2022-02-28 Thread Garth
Drew, These shifters have a friction mode, yes ? If they shift and hold all the gears in friction, but not with indexing it would either be wonky shifters or they are very sensitive to tension. The LX RR has a cable tensioner yes ? Play around with it slightly as you're shifting and see

Re: [RBW] Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

2022-02-27 Thread Joe Mullins
I have a limited knowledge of how all these parts work together but its my understanding that Shimano 9 speed MTB rear derailleur is the same cable pull as Shimano 10 speed road shifters. I am using a 10 speed Shimano bar end shifter with a rapid rise XT rear derailleur and it indexes a 10

Re: [RBW] Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

2022-02-27 Thread Richard Rose
I cannot answer your question but I am having a similar problem on my Clem with a Deore rear mech. I suspect cable stretch on this new bike? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 27, 2022, at 7:10 PM, Drw wrote: > > Ok, so I had a rapid rise derailler around and all this talk from rivendell > got me

[RBW] Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

2022-02-27 Thread Drw
Ok, so I had a rapid rise derailler around and all this talk from rivendell got me to put it on my partner's bike that i'm building up. I can't for the life of me get it to index correctly. Not saying the derailler is the problem, but i've never had this issue with regular pull deraillers, so