Great pictures, any comments on riding it north to south. Thanks, Steve
Plymouth, New Hampshire
On Friday, May 29, 2015, Mark Reimer marknrei...@gmail.com wrote:
I hope to write a proper report this weekend, but if you want to see a few
more photos (including the Atlantis with the destroyed
It would become progressively more interesting. South to North went from
forests to rolling prairies.
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Steven Sweedler sweed...@gmail.com wrote:
Great pictures, any comments on riding it north to south. Thanks, Steve
Plymouth, New Hampshire
On Friday, May
Well done, and glad to hear the Hunq performed well. I know Mark Reimer did
the Outback on his excellent Atlantis, and apparently it was a bit of
adventure. Hopefully, he chime in here on how the Atlantis performed.
Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas
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I just finished the Oregon Outback on my 54cm Hunqapillar. I used a hodgepodge
of bags (Riv Med SaddleSack, Swift Paloma, and Orlieb) to carry the often times
large loads. After 360 miles of rain, mud, dust, and lots of gravel roads, I am
happy to report no mechanicals. The Hunqapillar was rock
Fantastic! There were some other people on this group who said they
were going to do the Outback. I hope we hear from more of them.
(Oh. Yeah. I said I was going to do it. My friend wimped out, so I
didn't go. Next year.)
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:
I
On 11/23/2014 10:22 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Steve, I was, saying the lower positioned on the bike the water is,
the better. I was not saying the less the better.
Thanks for the clarification. I totally misunderstood what you were
saying, obviously.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday,
In my experience, weight of any kind travels better when lower, though I
oddly prefer the SaddleSack to panniers. It may not be a big thing for you.
With my vertigo, anything that effects the handling of the bike is
trip-ending. I can't carry weight above my waist, so hydration packs are
out
A pint's a pound, which means 100 oz of water is a little over three
pounds. My body weight varies by more than three pounds from week to
week, and I don't notice that affects bike handling. I don't find the
three pound weight on my back noticeable as far as handling is
concerned.
I do notice,
Anne,
The closer to the ground the weight is, the lower the center of gravity is,
and the less your body's muscles are being used to correct the constant
imbalances that occur on the bike and keep the bike upright. The bike will
feel more stable and light. It's one of the reason that the more
It's three pounds! Right now I weigh more than three pounds more than
my ideal cycling weight. I'd like to get rid of that weight, but I
don't notice even one tiny difference in bike handling because of it.
Also, in my experience-- and I wear a hydration pack every time I ride
except for around
There's a difference between 3 lbs of rider weight and 3 lbs of accessory
weight. The 3 lb of rider weight is distributed throughout the body, and
as it accumulated, your musculature also adapted to deal with that extra
weight.
The point is, any weight that is loose and can wiggle is going
Actually your math is off. 100oz is about 3L, or 3kg, or a little over 6
pounds. I have used a 3L hydration pack on 200K and 300K rides, but would
probably not like it on a multiple day ride.
--Metin
On Monday, November 24, 2014 8:39:18 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote:
A pint's a pound, which
You're right, it's six pounds not three. A pint's a pound, but a liter
is more or less a quart which is two pints. That was a stupid mistake
for me to make.
A quick eyeballing of bikepacking pictures shows the majority of
bikepackers wearing packs. But YMMV. For me, if I'm not using
panniers,
Riders wear large hydration packs for the entire Continental Divide race.
If the pack fits well and one is accustomed to wearing it, it won't cause a
problem even if theoretically the weight is better down lower. Jeez, the
nits people will pick on this list.
jim m
wc ca
On Monday, November
Yeah. Folks who wear a backpack baffle me. I did a ride with a friend who
didn't have panniers, so he brought a quality running pack to cary his gear
for the day. Have the weight op that high annoyed him to no end, and he
test rode without it and felt an amazing difference. All with about 10
They don't wear full backpacking packs, typically. They wear packs
designed for cyclists, like these:
http://www.rei.com/product/847872/camelbak-mule-hydration-pack-100-fl-oz
http://shop.camelbak.com/hawg-nv/d/1003_cl_3900
http://shop.camelbak.com/volt-13-lr/d/1247_cl_3426
I know, and I don't get those, either. But I've seen bikepackers with full
packs before. None of them understand my set up either, so it works out. I
get odd questions like How do you fit through the narrow trails? when the
SaddleSack is no wider than my body on the bike.
With abandon,
Patrick
Hmm, riding around NYC I had the backpack full of crap for years. Once you
get used to it its really not a big deal. Now you if you just throw one on
for a ride for the first time year its gonna be different, sore shoulders,
weird pack moving sensation and the like but it only took me a couple of
Deacon and Anne, thanks for the info.
Do you put the 100oz hydro pack/blader in a bike mounted bag or are you
wearing those on your back?
Anne, sounds like you plan to go with well under 2gal of water storage.
Have I got that right?
I get that somebody stoping to sleep/camp needs a bunch of gear
I strap the 100oz bladder to the frame.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, November 23, 2014 7:00:11 PM UTC-7, ted wrote:
Deacon and Anne, thanks for the info.
Do you put the 100oz hydro pack/blader in a bike mounted bag or are you
wearing those on your back?
Anne, sounds like you plan to go
In the main triangle along with the bottle cages? Guess it pays to ride a
big frame.
On Sunday, November 23, 2014 6:07:56 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
I strap the 100oz bladder to the frame.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, November 23, 2014 7:00:11 PM UTC-7, ted wrote:
Deacon and
I wear a 100 oz hydration pack. With two 1-liter bags, that's 5
liters. And I'll probably
carry two or three water bottles in the really dry sections. I'm going
to be around 2 gallons, I guess. Not sure really.
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 6:00 PM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote:
Deacon and Anne,
I don't remember. Wherever it works. Test before hand. Irish straps are
beautiful!
With abandon,
Patrick
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I think there are 3.785 liters in a gallon or about 7.5 liters for 2
gallons.
Your 5 liters is abt 1 and 1/3 gallons. With 3 28oz bottles like Deacon
carries thats another ~2/3 of a gallon.
So yea I guess that puts you at ~2gal for the longer dry stretches.
Thanks for setting me straight.
On
I think this http://epicureancyclist.com/review-msr-dromedary-and-s-biners/
looks fairly nice.
On Sunday, November 23, 2014 6:26:13 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
I don't remember. Wherever it works. Test before hand. Irish straps are
beautiful!
With abandon,
Patrick
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Water is the heaviest item by volume you will carry. It pays to get it as
low as practicable.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, November 23, 2014 7:36:49 PM UTC-7, ted wrote:
I think this
http://epicureancyclist.com/review-msr-dromedary-and-s-biners/ looks
fairly nice.
On Sunday,
On 11/23/2014 09:39 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Water is the heaviest item by volume you will carry. It pays to get it
as low as practicable.
And water is one of the few things that if you don't have it, you can die.
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Steve, I was, saying the lower positioned on the bike the water is, the
better. I was not saying the less the better.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:00:26 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 11/23/2014 09:39 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Water is the heaviest item by
Why? Why should you get it low? I would have thought keeping it on
your back, above the suspension (your knees) would be better.
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Water is the heaviest item by volume you will carry. It pays to get it as
low as
Ok. Seems like the usual locations for bottle cages on the down and seat
tubes do that, but once those spaces are taken finding someplace for
another say gallon and a half on a small or medium size bike presents some
challenges. I suppose you can put containers in the bottom of a pannier but
Sounds reasonable and if it works well for you thats great. I usually
prefer not to have a pack on if I am riding for a long time. I would rather
have what I need attached to the bike somehow.
On Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:06:26 PM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote:
Why? Why should you get it low? I
I am intrigued by the route but hough the trip sounds very appealing, it
also sounds very daunting.
For example this from http://velodirt.com/the-oregon-outback/:
... At the longest no-water section we each carried 2+ gallons of water.
...
Yet Jan Heine did it on a rando bike, and several
Because I'm taking the slow route, I'm going to carry way more stuff
than Jan. I'll have
tent
sleeping bag
pad
wool t shirt and lycra shorts for riding
wool jersey and wool legwarmers for riding when it's cold
off-bike clothes (I can't sit around in wet cycling clothing; I get
immediately
I'm planning to be there and will try it in min of 3, but probably 4 days.
I'd have to fly into Portland, take the train to Klamath I guess, and then
find some way from the end of the route back to the airport. Lots of
logistical challenges for sure, but the ride looks awesome!
On Monday,
I thought seriously about doing it in 2015, but I absolutely have to be at
work on the start date, so I have to miss it again this year.
Though i could do it by myself, but joining the group is a big part of the
fun.
Franklyn
Berkeley, CA
On Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:27:44 PM UTC-8, AaronY
Noticing the messages about the Oregon Outback, I thought we could
have a rollcall of who was planning to do it next spring, and how many
days you're expecting to take.
I'm planning to give it a try. Six days; I'm not racing.
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I'm starting to think serious about it as well. Probably will take 4-5
days, too.
Btw, thanks Mike for the info/opinions about Hetres on the OO last time.
That's useful.
Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR
On Sunday, November 16, 2014, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com
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