[RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-06 Thread Bill Carter
On Jan 5, 1:37 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: This is genius. I wave drivers by to let them know I know they're there, but I didn't have a signal for, Calm down, I know you're there, hang on a minute. On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

[RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Bruce Curry
In the spirit of peace love and understanding... Retaliation is not a sustainable strategy. Riding in the center of the road merely serves to irritate your fellow travelers and reinforces negative stereotypes and behavior directed towards you as well as all other bikes on the road. The only

[RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread newenglandbike
You may have misread Bill's post (or maybe I am misreading it).I don't think anyone was suggesting riding in the center of the road. However, 'taking the lane', or moving away from the shoulder to discourage motor traffic from trying to 'squeeze past' when it is not safe to do so (road

[RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Joe Bernard
I believe the main point of James' post is being missed. It seems directed at arguments among cyclers here recently. The man has a point, which I will take into consideration before hitting reply in the future. In my other internet life I have a running political discourse with a group of folks

Re: [RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Anne Paulson
When I ride in the center of the lane, which is normally called taking the lane, I don't do it in the spirit of retaliation. Rather, I do it when in my judgement the lane is too narrow to allow passing. I hope to signal to following cars that there is no room to pass and they shouldn't try it.

[RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread newenglandbike
WTF is that supposed to mean!? You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Joe Bernard
Yep. That's pretty much how it works. ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/N7bnqr-ab7AJ. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Robert F. Harrison
Actually in Honolulu taking the lane is more or less gospel...at least when necessary. I generally keep a copy of the regulations in my bag just in case I ever do get stopped (hasn't happened yet). Riding on roadways and bikeways (§291C-145) When traveling slower than the normal speed of

Re: [RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Joe Bernard
On the topic of taking the lane , I've had much success with hand signals. I get a hand out to warn the driver I'm pulling away from parked cars now; hold up one finger to exclaim hang on a minute and we'll get past this together; then a wave-by as I swerve back to the right when the curb

Re: [RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Anne Paulson
This is genius. I wave drivers by to let them know I know they're there, but I didn't have a signal for, Calm down, I know you're there, hang on a minute. On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: On the topic of taking the lane , I've had much success with hand

Re: [RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread William
I had that experience up on Wildcat. Just past the botanical gardens Wildcat is narrow and winding two lanes. I took the lane and a car came up behind me. I saw an approaching car that the car behind me could not see because I had a better view around the bend. I put the left hand down for

[RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Bill Carter
Matt wrote: I don't think anyone was suggesting riding in the center of the road. However, 'taking the lane', or moving away from the shoulder to discourage motor traffic from trying to 'squeeze past' when it is not safe to do so (road is too narrow, oncoming traffic, debris in the shoulder,

Re: [RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Eric Norris
I have found that drivers appreciate it when I let them know that they're behind me. I wave forward when it's safe to pass, and if there's a car coming that they may not be able to see (or if there's something in road that I need to ride around, again that they probably wouldn't see) I wave

Re: [RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I've found that, even in bike lanes, riding more toward the left actually encourages drivers to give me more room: creeping along at the far right, even in bike lanes, seems to tell drivers that they can crowd the bike lane. Fortunately, Albuquerque is both pretty mellow for cyclists and (at

Re: [RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 10:26 -0800, Joe Bernard wrote: On the topic of taking the lane , I've had much success with hand signals. I get a hand out to warn the driver I'm pulling away from parked cars now; hold up one finger to exclaim hang on a minute and we'll get past this together; then a

[RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-04 Thread Bill Carter
Jim, I believe we all have had similar experiences. A recent law was passed here in Georgia that requires motorists to give cyclists at least three feet clearance, but it remains to be seen whether the police will actually enforce it, and publicity to educate the motoring public about the new law

Re: [RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?

2012-01-04 Thread James Warren
Funny side note: about a minute ago, at the instant I clicked on your e-mail, the characters on the Law Order episode on my tv mentioned a character named Bill Carter. On Jan 4, 2012, at 7:07 PM, Bill Carter wrote: Jim, I believe we all have had similar experiences. A recent law was