Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Bump! ISO: 10-speed spacers. And question.

2024-04-03 Thread Ted Durant
On Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 2:05:32 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote: https://bike.bikegremlin.com/3573/bicycle-cassette-rear-chainrings-standards/#2.1.2 https://bike.bikegremlin.com/1232/bicycle-cassette-compatibility/ Jackpot! Thanks for sharing! -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Bump! ISO: 10-speed spacers. And question.

2024-04-03 Thread Garth
I've never seen extensive specs on the Miche way Patrick but Relja @bikegremlin has charts of Shimano and Campy. https://bike.bikegremlin.com/3573/bicycle-cassette-rear-chainrings-standards/#2.1.2 https://bike.bikegremlin.com/1232/bicycle-cassette-compatibility/ On Wednesday, April 3, 2024

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Bump! ISO: 10-speed spacers. And question.

2024-04-03 Thread Patrick Moore
As a matter of fact, I've never used my Miche 10 sp cassettes with a 10 sp chain but I suppose those must also work. (Since I built those Miche 10 sp cassettes, I've used a chain "1 generation later" than the cassette because web scuttlebutt says that this promotes crisper shifting. At least, I

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Bump! ISO: 10-speed spacers. And question.

2024-04-03 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Ted. I reviewed Sheldon's chart and saw these measurements for 7 thru 10; where did you find the 11 sp measurements? I'll be interested in you related post. The 10 sp Miche cogs are odd. The Shimano 10 speeds measure 1.6 mm wide across the cog, the Miche ones measure 1.6 mm at the teeth

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Bump! ISO: 10-speed spacers. And question.

2024-04-03 Thread Ted Durant
FWIW, the center-center spacing for Shimano cogs is: 7sp 5.00 8sp 4.80 9sp 4.35 10sp 3.95 11sp Road 3.69 11sp MTB 3.90 Sorry, I don’t have 12 and 13. Cog + spacer widths need to add to those numbers. Theoretically you can use thinner cogs than spec with wider spacers, but you would run into

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Bump! ISO: 10-speed spacers. And question.

2024-04-02 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Garth; I get that impression. I'll probably order lots of both 2.0 and 2.35. Thanks again for the link. Patrick Moore, who would find life much easier if he really knew what he was doing (but then again, that's what lists are for). On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 12:22 PM Garth wrote: > I

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Bump! ISO: 10-speed spacers. And question.

2024-04-02 Thread Garth
I don't think it has to be exact down to the .00's Patrick, even if indexing, certainly not for friction shifting. Use the 2mm ones you have. I don't think the plastic spacers compress in a cassette. You might be able to gouge one with a sharp instrument, but to compress the entire circle in a

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Bump! ISO: 10-speed spacers. And question.

2024-04-02 Thread Harry Travis
Patrick:As Roseanne Rosanadanna said many times and many years ago: "You sure gotta lotta questions." Which are the same question.Go to a bike shop and hand over a $tenner for a collection of used / worn cassettes, explaining that spider-less ones are of special interest because you want spacers,