[RBW] Re: 56 cm Sam Hillborne or wait for the 58 cm?

2013-08-16 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
A Selle Anatomica saddle will fix your short rails problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: 56 cm Sam Hillborne or wait for the 58 cm?

2013-08-15 Thread cbone97
I've scored a used orange canti dtt (Waterford?) Sam. Otherwise the 10% would've pushed me over the edge. Riv confirmed a 56 should be be great. Thanks to all for the help. Will post pics when built. On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:13:10 PM UTC-5, Johnny Alien wrote: 10% off that Sam

[RBW] Re: 56 cm Sam Hillborne or wait for the 58 cm?

2013-08-15 Thread hsmitham
Mr. Cbone97, As you have a PBH of 87.5 cm and the discount Sam 56 has a stand-over of 84.5 cm which is roughly a 4 cm difference in inches that's 1.5 inches which is fine IMO. The top tube is 59 cm which as others have mentioned forget the dirt drop and use a longer stem. The 58 cm gives you

[RBW] Re: 56 cm Sam Hillborne or wait for the 58 cm?

2013-08-15 Thread mr.trout
the waterford sams all have a cable stop on the seat stays for the rear brake, the maxway do not. if you have canti's that's ideal, otherwise i don't think there's any reason good reason to value the waterfords over maxway sams. On Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:54:44 PM UTC-5, cbone97 wrote:

[RBW] Re: 56 cm Sam Hillborne or wait for the 58 cm?

2013-08-15 Thread Michael Flournoy
I just bought one of the web specials. My PBH is 87.5 and I'm 5'10.5, the fit is basically good, the top tube is plenty long ( with Alba's s), the stand over is fine. My issues are that I want the seat further back than I can get it and if I don't use toe clips I get a lot of toe overlap (

[RBW] Re: 56 cm Sam Hillborne or wait for the 58 cm?

2013-08-14 Thread Johnny Alien
10% off that Sam special 56 today. I say go for it. That is a screaming deal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: 56 cm Sam Hillborne or wait for the 58 cm?

2013-08-06 Thread Michael
@mr.trout: I thought you were gonna say it is an orange Sam that got sun faded to yellow from all your riding on it. ha ha! I was thinking of my next bike I might do a custom color. Only thing I can think of that I would like is cream headtube with metallic aqua frame. Like a Bleriot.

[RBW] Re: 56 cm Sam Hillborne or wait for the 58 cm?

2013-08-04 Thread mr.trout
I'm 5'10 with one of the earlier hillbornes with a 58 effective tt, with the bars level to the saddle i use a 100mm stem with compact bars. anything longer would be too long. it's on the cusp. i'd get the 56. here's it's current state.

[RBW] Re: 56 cm Sam Hillborne or wait for the 58 cm?

2013-08-04 Thread Michael
I can only speak from my own experience. But I would think about how much standover height and seatpost showing you will have/want. Bigger means less seatpost showing and less standover (which I like). Also, think about that TT. If you are not hurting with the reach you have now on your

[RBW] Re: 56 cm Sam Hillborne or wait for the 58 cm?

2013-08-04 Thread Michael
@mr.trout: How did you get a yellow colored Hillborne? On Saturday, August 3, 2013 10:59:46 PM UTC-4, mr.trout wrote: I'm 5'10 with one of the earlier hillbornes with a 58 effective tt, with the bars level to the saddle i use a 100mm stem with compact bars. anything longer would be

Re: [RBW] Re: 56 cm Sam Hillborne or wait for the 58 cm?

2013-08-04 Thread Patrick Moore
That's a damned pretty Sam and makes me sorry I sold mine -- would be and ideal Gravel Bike; I am secretly desirous of being mocked by BSNYC. On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 8:59 PM, mr.trout ianet...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm 5'10 with one of the earlier hillbornes with a 58 effective tt, with the bars

[RBW] Re: 56 cm Sam Hillborne or wait for the 58 cm?

2013-08-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
I would call and talk with Grant. He guided me perfectly on my Hunqapillar. By the charts I should have a size down from 62 (90cm PBH), but he assured me the 62 was what I wanted. He was right. There is a personal touch to their sizing that doesn't fit on charts. Trust them. With abandon,

[RBW] Re: 56 cm Sam Hillborne or wait for the 58 cm?

2013-08-03 Thread Johnny Alien
With your PBH you are at the very bottom of the suggested sizing for the 58. The Hillborne is deceptive with it's sizing. My 52 feels as large if not a little larger than my 54 Rambouillet. Given the choice of being in the middle of a suggested sizing range or the bottom I would take the

[RBW] Re: 56 cm Sam Hillborne or wait for the 58 cm?

2013-08-03 Thread Minh
Fwiw, I ride a 56, am 6ft tall and find the top tube a little stretched out with drops. Depends on your riding style and bar preferences. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving