[RBW] Re: 650B market is plenty alive

2010-05-12 Thread John McMurry
On May 12, 1:33 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: The discussion about the new Pacenti 650B tires momentarily ventured into commentary on the future of 650B. I thought this was worth a discussion of its own. It can be interesting to try to predict the future. Two or

Re: [RBW] Re: 650B market is plenty alive

2010-05-12 Thread Rob Harrison
My take, having just bought my first 650b bike, is that there will always be *something* available. We can still get a nice range of freewheels, what, 20 years after Trek stopped spec'ing them? 650b was always a niche market in a niche market. I've been in those kinds of spaces my whole

[RBW] Re: 650B market is plenty alive

2010-05-12 Thread JoelMatthews
We can still get a nice range of freewheels, what, 20 years after Trek stopped spec'ing them? But Freewheels made up a much larger percentage of the market than 650B ever did. The more apt comparison is VHS and Beta. You can still get both, but VHS is much easier to find than Beta. On May

[RBW] Re: 650B market is plenty alive

2010-05-12 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Huh?! That must have been a very, very recent issue. 650b road options have blossomed since the Riv Reader first mentioned 650b. No this was several years ago, when the Saluki/Wilbury/Glorius/Bleriot 650B bikes were first being discussed. Grant mentioned several 650B tires apparently available

[RBW] Re: 650B market is plenty alive

2010-05-12 Thread NickBull
Actually, when one of our VHS players broke, recently, I couldn't find a replacement at Best Buy, Sears, or Target, except for more-expensive ($100) dual-purpose machines that combine tape and DVD. Nick On May 12, 12:35 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: We can still get a nice range

[RBW] Re: 650B market is plenty alive

2010-05-12 Thread John McMurry
On May 12, 12:46 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Huh?!  That must have been a very, very recent issue.  650b road options have blossomed since the Riv Reader first mentioned 650b. No this was several years ago, when the Saluki/Wilbury/Glorius/Bleriot 650B bikes

[RBW] Re: 650B market is plenty alive

2010-05-12 Thread JoelMatthews
Actually, when one of our VHS players broke, recently, I couldn't find a replacement at Best Buy, Sears, or Target, except for more-expensive ($100) dual-purpose machines that combine tape and DVD. I was thinking more the aftermarket. Just as there are many NOS or otherwise workable

[RBW] Re: 650B market is plenty alive

2010-05-12 Thread JoelMatthews
No? Here are the 584mm road tires consumers have available now: To Jim's point, I recently was in the market for a 40 hole 650b rim. I did not find any current makes. Fortunately, Jan Heine had one NOS set of Mavic MA-1s he was willing to sell. Otherwise I would not have been able to use the

[RBW] Re: 650B market is plenty alive

2010-05-12 Thread John McMurry
On May 12, 2:05 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: No?  Here are the 584mm road tires consumers have available now: To Jim's point, I recently was in the market for a 40 hole 650b rim. I did not find any current makes.   According to the original post, Jim's point is that the

Re: [RBW] Re: 650B market is plenty alive

2010-05-12 Thread Bruce
Add the Continental Tour Ride also in 42mm and 54 mm Schwalbe HS 159, Schwalbe Marathon, Panaracer Col de la Vie, Sunlite Street Tire, Panaracer Nifty Swifty, Panaracer Maxy Fasty, Panaracer Fatty Rumpkin, Panaracer/SOMA New Xpress, Grand Bois Cypres, Grand Bois Ourson, Grand Bois

[RBW] Re: 650B market is plenty alive

2010-05-12 Thread JoelMatthews
According to the original post, Jim's point is that the future of 650b is uncertain due to his recent observations. That you can't find a 40- hole, 650b rim is an entirely different point. Seems like we are splitting hairs here. Certainly it underscores that 650b is not as well supported as