[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-25 Thread John Phillips
Thanks again to everyone, I did learn quite a lot from you all, which made this more fun than aggravation. I solved this problem with a Surly Brake hanger. Kind of a tight fit length-wise, but it works. I checked out everyone's suggestions once again before going forward, but it was

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-20 Thread John Phillips
Hi Hugh, Thank you for your explanation, very easy to picture. John On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 10:11:19 AM UTC-8, Hugh Flynn wrote: > > 'Twas a time that builders used special bolts in seatpost binders. They > were a socket and bolt combo that fit through holes in the seat lug

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-20 Thread hugh flynn
'Twas a time that builders used special bolts in seatpost binders. They were a socket and bolt combo that fit through holes in the seat lug tabs. One side was free to spin (the bolt side) and the other side (the socket side) had a key on the collar that fit into a slot cast into the lug to prevent

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-20 Thread John Phillips
Hi Hugh, I'm curious, what are the slots on the sides of the holes where the bolt goes through, and why are the holes on opposing sides of the holes? Thanks, John On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 7:38:37 PM UTC-8, Hugh Flynn wrote: > > Things like this also exist - centered hanger but

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread John Phillips
Well, I hadn't thought of that, but I guess I could order a custom Rivendell with 54cm Hunqapillar geometry, maybe with an iridescent Woolly mammoth brown paint job? But I think there's a more reasonable solution, like the Surly or Paul brake hangers. ;) John On Wednesday, February 19, 2020

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread Joe Bernard
"Personally, I'd just get a new frame." That's what I do when I get a scratch. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread Brian Campbell
This is my AHH, which had Paul Racers brazed on. I used the Surly hanger at the suggestion of the builder. He told me it was the least likely to interfere with the seat lug and a lot cheaper than

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread Clayton.sf
Getting a longer binder bolt and using a Mafac hanger might be another solution as it bolts to the outside rather than into the slot. Like this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/291709320587. Or get a longer bold that sticks our a little and bolt the Nitto hanger to the side. This will put the

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread David B
To be fair, the Redwood was designed for sidepull brakes, so I don't think there needed to be thought about brake hangers. David On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 3:16:46 PM UTC-6, John Phillips wrote: > > Thanks Garth, and everybody, > > Rather than futz around trying one or two thinner

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread John Phillips
Hi, Yes, the outer edge of the long Nitto rear hanger nearly reaches my 27.2mm seatpost within the seat tube slot no matter what angle it hangs from the M6 bolt. It wouldn't be able to cam the slot in the seat tube open because it is already in the slot. I checked the seat tube

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread Joe Bernard
Same hardware, but the OP's bike is a Hunqapillar with a 27.2 post. I think he just got unlucky with the dimensions of the binder ears and Nitto hanger on this one, something needs to be filed down or replaced in there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread Joe Bunik
Follow-on thought question : Does/did Riv use the same seat-lug (the "basic hardware/bolt-nut") - for both 27.2 **and** 26.8 seatpost-sized frames? Perhaps that's the key to the problem, that the Nitto hanger is incompatible on 26.8 frames using this lug? =- Joe On 2/19/20, Joe Bunik wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread Joe Bunik
I believe one **possible source** of this issue **IS** the Nitto cable hanger itself -- On many Riv frames it fits "just fine" between the ears of the seatlug -- but, on some, when you tighten down the post -- it actually catches between the ears and cams the tube back open just enough to cause

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread John Phillips
Thanks Garth, and everybody, Rather than futz around trying one or two thinner hangers, I think I will go with the Paul Funky Monkey rear brake cable hanger to solve my problem. More expensive but at least it will complement my Paul Touring canti's. I really want to thank everyone

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread John Phillips
Thanks David, Yep, no problem tightening the seat post binder bolt sufficiently with out the brake hanger present to interfere. John On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:27:46 PM UTC-8, David B wrote: > > John, > I think what you laid out in your initial post are the the permanent >

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread Garth
First of all, leaving off the rear brake bridges for bikes that have canti studs is just plain stupid dumb dumb dumb. Before you go about anything John you gotta know if the post stays put without the hanger. If the post still slips you have either an irregularity in the seatpost or

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread David B
John, I think what you laid out in your initial post are the the permanent solutions. To confirm - your seatpost fits correctly and wouldn't slip if the brake hanger were not there, correct? The issue then is that the brake hanger is interfering with securing the seatpost fully. If so, filing

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread John Phillips
Thanks Eric, The interior of the seat tube is smooth, no problem there, but I could file away a bit on either side of the slot in the seat tube to accommodate the brake hanger. John On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 11:46:25 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote: > > John: > > Sorry for jumping

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread John Phillips
Thanks Eric, The interior of the seat tube is smooth, no problem there, but I could file away a bit on either side of the slot in the seat tube to accommodate the brake hanger. John On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 11:46:25 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote: > > John: > > Sorry for jumping

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
John: Sorry for jumping into this a bit late, but I’ll just add that the mechanics I have spoken to about slipping seatposts would *never* recommend friction paste. If your post is slipping, there is something going on that shouldn’t be “fixed” with friction paste. That’s like putting a

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread John Phillips
Hi Everyone, Thank you for all your suggestions. My 27.2 Nitto S83 seatpost is snug enough in the seat tube to stay put at a given height if there is only a very, very thin film of grease, so I suppose the friction paste might work. How clean does the seat tube need to be of grease for

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread Ian Dickson
I agree with Spencer that the hanger is the first thing I'd work on, whether replacing or modifying it. On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 8:36:11 AM UTC-7, spencer robinson wrote: > > One really nice feature that I admire on Rivendell frames is that the > "pinch" bolt for the Seat post is

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread spencer robinson
One really nice feature that I admire on Rivendell frames is that the "pinch" bolt for the Seat post is just a normal bolt and nut. I think I would ensure that the cable hanger is not limiting how tightly the pinch bolt is influencing the seat post. If the hanger is in conflict, I would take

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-19 Thread lconley
This is from the Riv website, works on the rear brake bridge also: [image: ca15089-2_1600x.jpg] But on a Hunqapillar, I would use the Funky Monkey. Laing Delray Beach, FL On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 7:28:17 PM UTC-5, John Phillips wrote: >Okay, I admit, I can be the world's worst

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-18 Thread Brian Reeves
I third the idea of trying friction paste on the seat post to help your slipping seat post as long as it is the right size seat post. You might also try a thinner cable hanger such as a surly brake hanger since you are hitting the seat post with your Nitto brake hanger: [image: Image result

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-18 Thread Clayton.sf
If it is a 26.8 you may be able to flex hone the ST to get a 27.2 in there (Handwringers need not apply). Also Nitto makes 27.0 posts, not sure about 27.4. Clayton Scott HBG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-18 Thread Kurt Manley
The post on my Hunq had to be knurled to prevent slipping. I think Riv has the tool as do most bike shops that have been around for a couple decades. On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 4:28:17 PM UTC-8, John Phillips wrote: > >Okay, I admit, I can be the world's worst procrastinator, but

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-18 Thread Patrick Moore
As Clayton suggested, friction paste. I solved a slipping Syncro seatpost with blue Loctite, but I think there is another type made expressly to prevent slippage. (And linking to another thread, about flexing seatposts: This thinwall titanium post flexed; I noticed things when I swapped it out

[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

2020-02-18 Thread John Phillips
Hi Clayton, Thanks for the idea. I should have specified I would also very much like to stick with my Nitto S83 seatpost. John On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 4:48:08 PM UTC-8, Clayton.sf wrote: > > I have had good luck with a seatpost size larger by 0.2mm. > > Carbon friction paste is