[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-10 Thread Kieran J
That one looks pretty nice. Would look right at home on an all-silver/polished wheel. KJ On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 11:12:15 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote: > > > https://bitexhubs.co.uk/product/bx103r/This one is available in 135mm > QR and silver ! > > >> >> >> -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-10 Thread Garth
Thanks James , just before I came back here I was on the phone with Velocity about their standard MTB wheelset w/unpolished silver Cliffhangers and black ATB hubs. I asked about replacement FH bodies and yes, they do stock them for current hubs and try to stock them if a model changes

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-10 Thread James / Analog Cycles
Hi Garth, A few things: According to Velocity, there are no replacement FH bodies available for their hubs. That right there knocks those outta contention for me. What good is a hub if you can't service it? It's like having a stick shift car you can't put a new clutch in. I import my

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-10 Thread Tristan Roberton
Chiming in as I'm also looking at building a wheelset in the near future and considering alternatives to Shimano. Does anyone have an opinion on Novatec hubs? They are readily available and the prices seem very reasonable. Searching through the archives people seemed to have a good opinion of

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-10 Thread John McBurney
Does anyone have experience with Velocity Wheels? I was thinking about an Atlas 700c set with a dynamo front and velocity rear hub. Do Velocity hubs offer preload adjustment? They are listed as hand built. For $590 seems like a good deal if they are well built. John On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 6:13

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-10 Thread Garth
James, which Bitex models are you referring to as almost all of their J bend rear hubs are available in a 135mm QR axle ? http://bitexhubs.com/htm/index.php Any experience with a Velocity ATB hub, the base cartridge bearing one ? https://www.velocityusa.com/product/hubs/atb-rear-hub It

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-10 Thread James / Analog Cycles
Bitex touring hubs are the best bang for the buck touring hub out there. Big Enduro sealed bearings, rebuildable steel freehub, adjustable bearing preload... About half the cost of White. I don't know why anyone would build a nice wheel without butted spokes. Sapim force or race spokes go on

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-10 Thread AMAC
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but I found the tool on Benscycle.com helpful for getting a sense of the options and price: https://www.benscycle.com/custom-wheel-builder/search I second the VO Voyager as a great option just below the beefier Cliffhanger. -Andrew On Wednesday, October

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Jeff B
For what it's worth, I always value ease of service and parts availability with my hubs. All the hubs listed fit that category for simple maintenance, especially the sealed bearing ones such as the Phil, Chris & White. The bearings are readily available & most are a 6902. I think the Chris King

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY
I don't have any White Industries or Chris King hubs, but I'd love some, especially considering I could ease off of the bell due to that lovely buzz coming off the freewheel. Not that I hate my bell, quite the opposite is true, but buzzz... ..and bearings, awesome easy standard

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Pancake
Great find Tarik, thanks! The Alex Adventure (sometimes called Adventurer) 2 rim is a great fit for the tire sizes we've been talking about, and at a lower cost it could save a bit to spend on nicer hubs or other bits. They're also lighter than the Cliffhangers (by 95g) and Atlas (by 50g) for

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread tarik saleh
I will point out that the new Alex adventurer 2 Rims are cheap and rim brake and tubeless compatible. I think $30-35 at your LBS. I got a few in both 26" and 700C for rim brake and cruiser bikes that I am sick of getting goat head flats on, but have not built them up yet. Based on their

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread John McBurney
I run Cliffhangers tubeless with Compass 44 front and 38 rear. No problems. Other options could include Pacenti Brevet for a traditional look and HED Belgium. John On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 10:23 AM Steve Cole wrote: > I considered Cliffhangers but Velocity specs them at 45-65 mm. This seems >

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks Clayton and the rest. I take it then that, perhaps, the problem has been fixed in the intervening 5 or so years. At any rate, I'm certainly experienced in riding fixed drivetrains. I would think that an aluminum axle would be (1) silver in color and (2) fatter in diameter than a steel one.

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Will
Riv is using these: Alex DM24 Rim with Shimano Deore Hub Wheelset. We have a set that came on an Appaloosa. They are also on the Clems. Very nice wheels. If you're are looking for something upscale, especially with a dyno... look here: https://www.velocityusa.com/product/wheels On

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Clayton.sf
Mine failed at the freehub bearings. Twice! CSHBGCA On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 1:33:21 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: > > > > Checking on the XT hubs from here : > https://www.kstoerz.com/freespoke/hubs?MfgId=4=135.0 and looking up > the diagrams it seems the aluminum axle versions are 770 and

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Garth
Checking on the XT hubs from here : https://www.kstoerz.com/freespoke/hubs?MfgId=4=135.0 and looking up the diagrams it seems the aluminum axle versions are 770 and above. The issues seem related to the freehub and springs breaking, not the axle or bearing size. -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Clayton.sf
Atlantis takes 135mm hubs unless you respace it. Best, Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 12:36:53 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote: > > This is a pretty good price on a set of White/ H-Son wheels 32/32 > > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Clayton.sf
Bought my hub in 2014. Model was: Shimano FH-T780 XT Rear Hub (36H Rear, Silver) Hope this helps. I did some research when it happened and there were a few other people having issues. I talked about this before on the bob list or rbw list and linked to some of the sources. Best, Clayton

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Apparently: Any XT rear hub prior to the FH-M770 has 10x1.0 steel axle and 18x1/4" balls. It seems the newer XT rear hubs have an aluminum axle and smaller balls, and have had issues seizing up--I don't know if that has been resolved. My wheels are all older XT or WI hubs. Cliffhanger or quill

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Patrick Moore
Also: I don't think that my (purchased 2019) XT hub has the aluminum axle. On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 1:47 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > All: Has Clayton's experience been a common one? I ask because I recently > had the rear wheel for the Matthews rebuilt with an XT hub, which I assume > is the

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Patrick Moore
All: Has Clayton's experience been a common one? I ask because I recently had the rear wheel for the Matthews rebuilt with an XT hub, which I assume is the current model; I have no idea what the current model's designation is, and when it was introduced. No hint of problems so far, but then I've

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Garth
For your tire choices I'd go with a Velocity Quill., tubeless and 25-47mm tires. All I can about hubs is the high end ones don't offer any guarantee over the "basic" yet reliable Deore/LX T610/T670hubs. The newer XT style(Aluminum axle ones) had some freehub failure issues in the past, but

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Brian Campbell
This is a pretty good price on a set of White/ H-Son wheels 32/32 https://www.velomine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info=235_357_id=2368=57p1usqe5ad2csa55h9k1vl7d2 rear hub is more road oriented but wieght is a littless. On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 1:44:49 PM UTC-4, John Casteen wrote:

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Clayton.sf
He did mention he is willing to spend more. I suggest building your own wheels to save on labor and learn a valuable skill. It is not hard to do and you can get the tools for less than what a build will cost these days. I recommend not using Shimano hubs in the rear; especially not the

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread John Casteen
Steve, Good question. My bikes are set up with the hubs you're asking about-- Deore XT on one, White Industries on another. (My rims are different, so can't really comment there.) I don't think you'll experience a difference in ride quality per se; they're all good. But if you put on a lot

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Steve Cole
Thanks to all for your insights. While everyone notes that the high end hubs are bulletproof and potentially will last a lifetime, no one's really commented on ride quality and whether one should expect a difference between the XT say and the higher end ones. I'm not a weight weenie so the

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Mike Godwin
Wheels I built for my Atlantis -rear hub is the trekking version of Shimano XT. Just like all the other XT hubs, but no disc flange. Something like 45 bucks new from fleabay. Front is SON 28 from SJS Cycles. That was pricey. Rims DT Swiss 540 TK. Eyelets, machined sidewalls, I think tubeless

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Ed Carolipio
Congrats on the bike. On the rims, I've had really good luck with rims from Velocity, so IMO no real reason to look beyond their offerings (with exceptions of course, such as a killer deal on an alternate or no stock for size/drillings/color you want.) On the hubs, if you choose the

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Pancake
I'm in the same boat for width because I'm also running Snoqualmie Pass tires on my Atlas rims currently - 44mm would be great for Cliffhangers but under 40mm is not "optimal" though others have reported success at 38mm. The Voyager from VO is the middle ground: 22mm internal width, 27

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Pancake
Rims: the Velocity Atlas is great but (1) is it not tubeless compatible and it's nice to have that option later even if you won't need it now. (2) The Atlas is also limited to "optimal" tire widths from 25-45mm (though many folks run wider tires without issues). The Cliffhanger is what I'm

[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

2019-10-09 Thread Steve Cole
I considered Cliffhangers but Velocity specs them at 45-65 mm. This seems to reduce my flexibility. I was planning on using RH Snoqualmie Pass Endurance+ tires that are 44 mm. If I wanted to go to a narrower tire, the Cliffhangers are not ideal. On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 9:48:04 AM