[RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

2016-10-23 Thread Bill M.
For me, bounce is the operative word. Over bigger bumps the Flyer will bounce enough to launch my butt off of the saddle. That's what happens when you have springs with no damping. Kind of useless off-pavement IMO, but it does add some comfort on reasonably paved roads. I put mine into

Re: [RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

2016-10-22 Thread Eric Floden
I did not think my springs compressed so had someone follow to watch ...turns out they do, noticeably. Eric 220 lbs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

2016-10-22 Thread Lungimsam
The springs* do* compress. I can feel them do so on small and large bumps alike, at different levels of travel depending on the roughness of the road. Saddle will bounce more on the bigger bumps. I pedal in the 80's cadence range. The saddle bounces along like you are in a limo. But not too

Re: [RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

2016-10-22 Thread Patrick Moore
I forgot an aside, worthy of another thread. Thus: Am I alone in finding 50 mm, at least for 700C wheels, a sweet spot for pavement and loose dirt? The F Freds measure 51 mm with my electronic caliper, and while I do notice that 51 mm at 17/20 does not float as well, nor roll as cush, as 15/18

Re: [RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

2016-10-22 Thread Patrick Moore
Nice looking ride -- that's pretty much how I'd set up a bike for road use. The Matthews' bar is about even with saddle. And yet you find the springs do help. I'll have to try another Flyer, some day. Yesterday's ride on the Matthews, a bit over 25 miles, covered at least 22 miles on dirt, say

Re: [RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

2016-10-22 Thread Lungimsam
I'm set up in kops on my Bleriot . You can see the the seatpost and the way the saddle set up on it here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/TnUUnm KOPS on Sam: https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/TnUUnm Always perfect bounce from day one. I wonder why they don't bounce for some people?

RE: [RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

2016-10-22 Thread Ray Varella
Anecdotally, my stoker noticed an improvement in comfort with a sprung flyer over a non-sprung but well broken in B-17. It's hard to say how measurable the suspension is but when you forget to mention or don't see a bump in time and the stoker says "that wasn't bad", it's worth having. Ray

RE: [RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

2016-10-22 Thread olofstroh
Patrick Moore wrote: I couldn't get any suspension (that I noticed) from the Flyer I owned. Is there a secret to setting it up? I do recall that, because of the short rails, I had to buy a new seatpost with a lot of setback (Thompson, perhaps?). Could this have been the reason that springs

Re: [RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

2016-10-22 Thread Patrick Moore
I couldn't get any suspension (that I noticed) from the Flyer I owned. Is there a secret to setting it up? I do recall that, because of the short rails, I had to buy a new seatpost with a lot of setback (Thompson, perhaps?). Could this have been the reason that springs weren't compressing? On

[RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

2016-10-22 Thread Lungimsam
They even have an imperial flyer now! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

2016-10-22 Thread Frank Brose
My Atlantis is set up with Noodle Bars and a Flyer. Works for me. On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 8:15:51 PM UTC-5, René wrote: > > This might seem like a dumb question, but I've only seen sprung saddles, > such as the B-17 Flyer or the B-67 on upright bikes like the Cheviot, and > in fact I

[RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

2016-10-21 Thread Lungimsam
I weigh 175. Both of my B-17 Flyers have always bounced just perfectly for me on my Bleriot and Sam and Rambouillet with drop bar 1.3cm below saddle height. Perfect also sitting bolt upright for me with Albatross bars! Turns your bike into a limousine! I ride centuries and the saddle is

[RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

2016-10-21 Thread Matt Beecher
The springs don't give much at all and I will say that I'm a fair amount heavier than Patrick. It just smooths out the road/trail a tad to make all day riding just a bit more comfortable. One thing I will warn you about is that the flyer squeaks a lot. I'm accustomed to it, but I imagine

[RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

2016-10-21 Thread René Sterental
Thanks! I may give it a try. On Friday, October 21, 2016, Patrick Moore wrote: > I tried a Flyer on an all-rounded mountain bike, with drop bar. I think > that the bar -- 46 cm Noodle on 10 cm D Drop stem -- was even with saddle. > The Flyer was no worse for me than the B

[RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

2016-10-21 Thread Matt Beecher
My Atlantis has a Flyer on it and I like the saddle quite a bit. I had a drop bar on it, until I injured my hand. After that, I changed to a moustache bar to take the weight off my injured hand, but plan to go back now that I am mostly healed. -Matt -- You received this message because you