[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-04 Thread grant
The Mark's Rack --- well, here's my take on it. Consider the source, but at the least- It is not too heavy when you consider that it's supposed to carry a load, AND when you consider Nitto's structural conservatism. The similar looking M12 is built with much lighter tubing, but its primary use

Re: [RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Chen
What's funny is Manny hasn't commented on this, and he's the Michael Milken of front loading. On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:16 PM, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: The Mark's Rack --- well, here's my take on it. Consider the source, but at the least- It is not too heavy when you consider that

RE: [RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-04 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Funny. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chen Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:24 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack What's funny is Manny hasn't commented on this, and he's

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-04 Thread Jan Heine
On Thursday, October 3, 2013 1:11:37 AM UTC-7, Pierre wrote: Got BQ in the mail today, I love the color. When you read the article, it is mentioned that BQ machined the rack fork crown mount so that it sits lower. Looking at the result, I can see why this may lead to increased flex. All

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-03 Thread Philip Williamson
I just got my BQ today, I love the color (did not expect to), and I love the Calfee. I won't even spend $12,000 on a car, so odds are I won't spend $12,000 on a bike, but I'm glad it exists. I think Craig Calfee is the real deal - he shows up at Podunk bike expos with his bamboo frame jigs, and

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-03 Thread Matt Beebe
On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 9:56:52 PM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote: More pics of the carbon rando bike: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVy2iKYmqK8 Is that Darth Vader behind the camera? ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-03 Thread blakcloud
I still think it is a Mark's rack it just has those unneeded parts removed. On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 9:56:52 PM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote: More pics of the carbon rando bike: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVy2iKYmqK8 FWIW, I don't believe that is a Mark's rack. My Mark's rack has a

Re: [RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-03 Thread Dan McNamara
Looks to be an M-18 rack. Similar platform to the Mark's Rack but no front mount tab for a light/reflector and no mount for struts at the back end of the platform. So no fancy double-strut mounting with this rack. Boulder has these available with a light mount eyelet on the strut. Dan On

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-03 Thread Jan Heine
On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 8:13:59 AM UTC-7, Leslie wrote: Seems like, if it's a full custom bike, and you're going w/ carbon fiber, shouldn't you have a carbon fiber rack?Not that I've heard of such, but if you're going custom We once tested a carbon bike with a custom

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-03 Thread Bill Lindsay
Jan I've thought that the folks at Delta 7 might be able to figure out a lightweight and durable carbon rack: http://www.delta7bikes.com/isotruss-bike-technology.htm It might look really weird, though. The tiny market probably wouldn't justify the expense of developing something. We

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-03 Thread Scott G.
On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 10:42:27 PM UTC-4, RJM wrote: I don't get the love of disk brakes on road bikes going onI just really don't. You probably aren't riding carbon fiber clincher rims down Tuna Canyon, braking way too much. California Gran Fondue rides have banned CFCs for

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-03 Thread Matthew J
I don't get the love of disk brakes on road bikes going onI just really don't. Gaining momentum. I personally am very happy with rim brakes and could not see going disc. The new SRAM road disc brakes at least look more presentable. On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 9:42:27 PM UTC-5, RJM

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-03 Thread Matt Beebe
I agree with previous comments, I would not worry about using the rack on your SH. I think some readers (myself included) are almost shocked to see negative things written about products in magazines since most mags are merely long editorial advertisements, and any verbiage not glowingly

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread Leslie
Realize the intent of the Mark's rack: Nitto and Grand Bois have their nice canti-mount racks out there, and when you can use it, it's the rack to go-to. The whole reason the Mark's rack came about was so that you could put a rack on a bike w/o canti posts... and when you go to

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread Ron Mc
weight-wise, all you're paying for is the steel fork-bolt strap, a couple of Nitto rod bolts, and a couple of extra inches of aluminum rod - barely a couple of ounces. Have the VO canti-mount rack on my daughter's bike and the stiffness is notable.

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread Garth
It's just an opinion .. an Apple isn't an Orange so if you don't like one or the other it doesn't make one or the other any better than the other. Two distinctly different racks. Yes, they are Racks, as fruit is fruit, but the similarities end there. BQ contradicts themselves

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread Ron Mc
even simpler than that - if you have canti brakes, use a canti-brake rack. If you don't, use the other kind. On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 9:07:43 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote: It's just an opinion .. an Apple isn't an Orange so if you don't like one or the other it doesn't make

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread Jan Heine
Consider that we are talking about a full-custom carbon bike that weighs only 21 pounds with 650B tires and lights and costs $ 11,600. In that context, Mark's rack seemed out of place. I'd rather replace the carbon stem with an aluminum one, and spend the savings on a custom rack. A photo of

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread Leslie
On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 10:36:41 AM UTC-4, Jan Heine wrote: Consider that we are talking about a full-custom carbon bike that weighs only 21 pounds with 650B tires and lights and costs $ 11,600. In that context, Mark's rack seemed out of place. I'd rather replace the carbon stem with

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread Ron Mc
Jan, thanks for the context. The Marks rack would look a bit cobbled on a $12,000 carbon bike. On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 10:13:59 AM UTC-5, Leslie wrote: On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 10:36:41 AM UTC-4, Jan Heine wrote: Consider that we are talking about a full-custom carbon bike that

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread Matthew J
Definitely, thanks for the context. SH is a fine bike. But even Riv promotes it as a more affordable option for people who may not want to spend for an AHH or Atlantis. How well or not Mark's rack suits a Calfee custom has absolutely nothing to do with how it suits an SH. On Wednesday,

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread Garth
The Nitto Canti rack is the M12. They also make a M12SL, made from tubular stainless steel. 250g/215g. http://www.alexscycle.com/campee-1/camping-carrier/nitto-m12sl.html I use the 2 struts on top to attach Mark's rack to the Bombadil crown instead of the tang, and it is as solid as it

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread Brian Campbell
$11k on a custom performance bike and it still doesn't meet the riders requirements, crazy! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread justinaugust
Seems like a dummy move - shoulda used a Nitto Mini-Campee. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread Peter Morgano
I would think if you were dropping 11k on a bike you would spend the couple hundred on a custom rack... On Oct 2, 2013 8:37 PM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: Seems like a dummy move - shoulda used a Nitto Mini-Campee. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread ted
In the context of the original question that started this thread, perhaps what sort of front rack Jan would prefer on an $11,600 full-custom carbon bike may not be particularly relevant to choosing a front rack for your Sam Hillborne. On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 7:36:41 AM UTC-7, Jan Heine

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread Brian Campbell
More pics of the carbon rando bike: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVy2iKYmqK8 FWIW, I don't believe that is a Mark's rack. My Mark's rack has a front plate that I use to mount my E3 headlight, Also the Marks rack has mounting points for two sets of struts. The rack in question only has one

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread Will
I must be missing something. Is an $11,600 bike relevant to BQ readers? On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 9:36:41 AM UTC-5, Jan Heine wrote: Consider that we are talking about a full-custom carbon bike that weighs only 21 pounds with 650B tires and lights and costs $ 11,600. In that context,

Re: [RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 10/02/2013 10:13 PM, Will wrote: I must be missing something. Is an $11,600 bike relevant to BQ readers? Why wouldn't it be? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
Absolutely! BQ is seeking the absolute best possible performing bikes. It would be very hard to keep a new Rene Herse under $12000 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread Brian Campbell
I bet it is a fantastic bike to ride. One can dream On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 10:17:51 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 10/02/2013 10:13 PM, Will wrote: I must be missing something. Is an $11,600 bike relevant to BQ readers? Why wouldn't it be? -- You received this

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-02 Thread RJM
I don't get the love of disk brakes on road bikes going onI just really don't. On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 8:56:52 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote: More pics of the carbon rando bike: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVy2iKYmqK8 -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-01 Thread ted
Given the source, I suppose the author would prefer one of these http://www.compasscycle.com/racks_gb_wide.html http://www.compasscycle.com/racks_gb_narrow.html captions on the Racks/Bags page say Made by Nitto, strong and light. On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 7:38:17 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote:

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-01 Thread Kelly
I have marks rack on my AHH and I can't say its heavy or flexy, it just is. Everyone is different, it does a good job for me. Kelly On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 9:38:17 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote: In the picture of Mark's rack on the Calfee Adventure, the caption reads, Heavy and flexible

[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

2013-10-01 Thread john
Well, he's got a point. I've used Mark's rack and the Canti-versioned Mark's rack which is a substantially different. The Nitto front rack designed for cantis is very strong, very beautiful. Strong because the struts are not bolted to the rack top but brazed there. Also, the attachment from